Yul Lose Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Recently an acquaintance of mine and someone that I considered close killed his wife and then killed himself. Financial issues and other things drove him over the edge I guess, I can find no other explanation. Back in 1992 when I was in the hospital recovering from numerous spinal surgeries and a 2 month medically induced coma a man came into my hospital room and installed some kind of equipment on both sides of my hospital bed. I couldn’t talk because of a tracheotomy so didn’t know what was going on until a nurse came in and explained that those were range of motion machines that would move my arms and increase muscle strength and shoulder movement, I called them arm breakers because that’s what it felt like, anyway his name was David Westerfield and quite a few years later he was convicted of kidnapping and killing a young girl down in San Diego. I remember when they first showed him on TV I told my wife who it was she didn’t believe me until she read his background, yep it was him. He got the death penalty. There’s a tool store in Escondido that carries a lot of wood working related tools and one day I was watching the morning news and there, on the screen is the manager of the store in a courtroom over in Vista. It seems he had a live in girlfriend or roommate and they were both heavily involved in drugs and she was murdered to shut her up or something. I believe he got a 50 year sentence for 2nd degree murder. So pards and pardetts do any of you know murderers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Well, code of silence and all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church Key, SASS # 33713 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Son of my next store neighbor in Germantown, MD killed a fellow high school student with a baseball bat. Dummy is serving 25 years for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tell Sackett SASS 18436 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Yes I have. When I went to college for a year I got addicted to foosball. Back in my home county a frequent foosball partner of mine went on to murder a woman. Didn't follow the story- was just too shocked by the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Does voluntary manslaughter count? Played a few games of pool with Claude Dallas at the Alvord Ranch during their centennial celebration in '71. I was working at Whitehorse Ranch at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted July 4, 2019 Author Share Posted July 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said: Does voluntary manslaughter count? Played a few games of pool with Claude Dallas at the Alvord Ranch during their centennial celebration in '71. I was working at Whitehorse Ranch at the time. He was a murderer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 A good friend from high school killed his ex girlfriend and her new boyfriend. Too many suicides to count. Five friends murdered. Four in one house. A couple in jail, some out now. All young. I'd like to thank my wife for changing my direction while I was a young man. Love ya doll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Sadly, yes I do. I have also, as an assistant prosecutor, met several, including one serial killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 When I attended a junior college in my home town I worked part time for a lumber/building supply company, spent time in the office and delivering stuff. Two of our customers were reputed mafia members. One stood trial for murder and was acquitted because no witness could swear that he saw the bullet enter the victim’s body! I was VERY courteous when delivering building supplies to these fellows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Tale Todd Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I once saw Amber Frey, mistress of murderer Scott Peterson, at a local bakery. Does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muley Gil SASS # 57795 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 A friend from high school went off to Yale and got hooked on drugs. He got kicked out of college and came home to live with his elderly parents. After a while, they refused to fund his drug problem, so he killed both of them. He fled Maryland and was caught down in Florida. I was a deputy sheriff, a corrections officer and a police officer for 25 years, so yeah, I have known LOTS of murderers. Arrested a few over the years too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Just one, I think. Fellow shooter, bad divorce. He went to her house, killed her, their two dogs, then himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Old Man Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I went to school with Claude Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Do you count Hillary? Dont know her personally. Imis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I know a guy who killed himself!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Several...both in my professional life and my personal life. The most notable was one I arrested for DUI. Six weeks later, he was paid by a minister through a middle man to kill the minister's wife. He was executed by the State of Alabama in 2010. John Forrest Parker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I knew one. His wife is my wife's best friend since childhood. One day her ex stopped in to say "Hi" after about ten years estranged. When her current husband of 9 years found out he drove from Connecticut to Florida and shot the guy at his front door. He committed suicide on the way back home when the troopers pulled him over. It's been another ten years and his wife has still not been able to get his firearms back from the local PD. They confiscated them when they came to inform her of his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Mark Flint #31954 LIFE Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I was friends with a Memphis police officer. John was always a nice guy, funny and seemingly easy going-right up until he double tapped his wife in the kitchen with his .45 S&W revolver. Serving life without the possibility of parole. broke his father's heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Personally, a lot. Professionally with over 20 years as a homicide detective, worked around 1,600 of those. I remember the 1st one to the last one. 300 were children and yes was there for autopsy. First was an old Mexican man, the last one was a really close cop friend murdered in the line of duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 No, but I voted against one in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 My first thought was NO, but after thinking a little bit: He wasn't a friend of mine. I was in school with his sister. He was in Demolay with my little brother. He robbed a motel one night, and took the desk clerk out in the swamp and shot him. Not sure if this qualifies. The son, and the son-in-law, of a friend of mine decided to rip off a drug dealer. The dealer did not appreciate this, and killed the son-in-law. Since this was death in the commission of a felony, technically the son was a murderer, even though the drug dealer did the actual shooting. And then there's a couple I know. He was drunk and stoned, and decided to shoot her. He missed. So I suppose he doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 YES ..... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Not to my knowledge. However, there was a weird kid I went to elementary school with. I still remember him and I don't remember all of the good peeps. He looked gray. His hair, skin, and clothes were always gray. He was caught writing f-bombs on the walls. If anyone grew up to be a murderer and if I were a gambler, I'd put my money on him. Just thinking about him gives me the heebie jeebies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Yes I do. SOB killed murdered a good man back in '85 and he got out of jail, yup, not prison, at 21 years old. Time served. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seamus McGillicuddy Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Know a victim. Girl I went to high school with was the only survivor of a serial killer. He’d killed a number of young women but shot my friend and left her for dead. Badly injured but she survived. Lovely girl. He ended up dying in prison after finally being convicted of one of his crimes. Total scum based on his deeds but I never met him. Hopefully he’s barking in Hell as Mattie Ross would say. Seamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Louis Suomi SASS #31905 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Three in 8th grade. They were not nice folks. Five in first year high school. I disliked all of them except one. I thank God that I escaped that environment. STL Suomi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Yes. I friend in high school. After school he worked in construction and used to drink a lot. Beat a guy to death behind a bar. Spent 20 + years in prison, died of a heart attack 20 years ago. Nice guy when he wasn't drinking, but that wasn't very often! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 I went to high school with a guy that killed an intruder. He was in prison four 5 years because instead of calling the police he took the body to his grandparents farm and buried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/4/2019 at 8:19 AM, Rye Miles #13621 said: I know a guy who killed himself!! It was in 1965, he and another guy I knew from high school, robbed a bartender after hours and got caught. He (Tom) did some time in prison and when he got out he put a bullet in his head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 On 7/4/2019 at 1:38 PM, Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 said: Not to my knowledge. However, there was a weird kid I went to elementary school with. I still remember him and I don't remember all of the good peeps. He looked gray. His hair, skin, and clothes were always gray. He was caught writing f-bombs on the walls. If anyone grew up to be a murderer and if I were a gambler, I'd put my money on him. Just thinking about him gives me the heebie jeebies. Or he grew up to hold elected office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted July 6, 2019 Author Share Posted July 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, bgavin said: Or he grew up to hold elected office. #44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashknife Cowboy Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I arrested a few...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 The only murderer that I know was a guy that worked for my Dad. Long story short he went home from work and found his wife in bed with another man. Killed them both by impaling them with a post hole digger. He went to prison in Pennsylvania for 21 years to life back in 1969 or thereabouts. His actions taught me a very very valuable lesson as an 8 year old kid. Never let the actions of a woman cause you to lose your freedom. 10 years later I was head over heels in love and then found out she was “fooling around” on me. I was furious. I hated her and I hated the guy she was fooling with. I remembered that guy from when I was a kid and walked away. To this day I cannot remember that guy’s name. Weird. I also knew a guy that shot himself. His wife drove him nuts. If you would have ever met her...and knew him, you would have been surprised that he took his own life and not hers. She was a weird, creepy, manipulative b****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Yes-Arrested many......... Killed one, that tried to kill me. Some of the ones I arrested where the cause of deadly DUI crashes. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Yes-Arrested many......... Killed one, that tried to kill me. Some of the ones I arrested where the cause of deadly DUI crashes. OLG Dang OLG, I done forgot all about me. Didn't consider that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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