Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 This is a simple thread. If you have never shot a sweep before do you consider it a P trap? Yes or No
StirrupTrouble Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Not at all. I like learning new sweeps and the variety is fun
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 No. I have more shots loaded in whichever weapon than targets so I know something will get more than one hit. The order is as simple as it could possibly be. That said I have messed up plenty of simple sweeps but that is brain problem. Bring on the shootin. Imis
Yusta B. Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 No - no different than going to a new range for the first time where nothing is familiar.
Straight Arrow Hombre Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Since the world revolves around Straight Arrow Hombre, any sweep I can't figure out is a P trap for all. You're welcome.
Wyatt Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Yes.....at least that's my excuse from now on. 😃
Cowboy Rick, SASS #49739L Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Yes. When the rifle and pistol both are convoluted sweeps, i.e. 1-4-2-1-5-3-1-1-4-5, and they are both different versions, and you start with one pistol empty. Actually happened a couple of years ago at a monthly when a new MD wanted to "slow down" the likes of Carty. I may have the sweep wrong, but you get the idea. CR
Lead Ringer Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Probably not. We shot a brain teaser at a match last weekend. (Pistol and rifle the same👍🏼) took some thought to get it down, but not a p trap. Regards, Ringer
Hoss Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Well....I have a simple mind, so simple answers are hard! If its understandable, and rifles same as pistos, no. If its a convoluted mess that make no sense (as Cowboy Rick mentioned) then yes.
40Chev Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Yes. When the rifle and pistol both are convoluted sweeps, i.e. 1-4-2-1-5-3-1-1-4-5, and they are both different versions, and you start with one pistol empty. Actually happened a couple of years ago at a monthly when a new MD wanted to "slow down" the likes of Carty. I may have the sweep wrong, but you get the idea. CR How did that work out? Pretty sure it made no difference.
Jefro, SASS#69420 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 NO....................unless of course it's a convoluted mess .re CR Good Luck Jefro Relax-Enjoy
McCandless Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 This is a simple thread. If you have never shot a sweep before do you consider it a P trap? Yes or No Most sweeps have a certain logic to them. So normally, No. Only once in the last 16 years have I seen a 5 target array (rifles and pistols on same targets), where it was an oddball 5-shot pistol sweep, a different order for the second pistol, and a different order for the rifle, reload 1 rifle after 5 rounds fired, and then a different order for the remaining 6. It was billed as a "brain-teaser" stage. Once was enough!
Eyesa Horg Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 NO-- I have pee'd on some, but thats my brain fart-- not the scenario
Buckaroo Bubba Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Since the world revolves around Straight Arrow Hombre, any sweep I can't figure out is a P trap for all. You're welcome. Where is that "Like" Button...Hahahaha
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 No, never...regardless of sequence or any added off the clock activities.
Griff Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 No, if it's a sweep. Tap dancin' around targets, back 'n forth (such CR posted), is not among my skillsets. IMO, any attempt to slow the faster folks just slows the slower folks that much more!
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Where is that "Like" Button...Hahahaha I just liked your post. Did you get a message. James said he made it functional a few weeks ago.
Cowboy Rick, SASS #49739L Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 How did that work out? Pretty sure it made no difference. He still won by a large margin
Blackey Cole Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 It depends on the sweep. I think of a designated shotgun sweep to be more of a p trap when it is the only so sweep in a match
Buckaroo Bubba Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 I just liked your post. Did you get a message. James said he made it functional a few weeks ago. Hahaha... Yeah.. I seen that...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 No, if it's a sweep. Tap dancin' around targets, back 'n forth (such CR posted), is not among my skillsets. IMO, any attempt to slow the faster folks just slows the slower folks that much more! +1
Buckaroo Bubba Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 No... I think that is how we keep our sport interesting. Come up with new and exciting things without straying too far from what we are accustomed to. (Sorry, I initially replied.. but I misread Deuce's question)
twelve mile REB Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Yes, I have seen "P" traps, more over I've seen stages that the designer bragged that he was attempting give as many P's as possible. Then I've seen stages that for whatever reason caused shooters to make mistakes. When any stage has drastically more P's than the other stages it raises the question "why" what caused the spike in P's. In a 100 shooter match 2 to 5 P's per stage I would consider normal but for one stage out of the twelve to have 20 would cause me to wonder is that a "P" trap or just the way it goes.
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 A "sweep"........ NO. A shooting sequence based on someone's Grandma's birthday...... YES. ..........Widder
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Hey Widder We shot our sass numbers a long time ago. 46646 twice, I was lost for half an hour Imis
Blackwater 53393 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Hey Widder We shot our sass numbers a long time ago. 46646 twice, I was lost for half an hour Imis I remember that one! Mine is 53393. It was clumsy. Schoolmarm's is 56734!! She just giggled. It's kinda' like supper at Mom's house..... Eat what's put before ya'!!!
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 This is a simple thread. If you have never shot a sweep before do you consider it a P trap? Yes or No Depends totally on the sweep. If there is some logic to the sweep folks can remember, then NO. If the targets are just listed randomly and no one has an easy way to remember the sweep it is a P trap. P traps can be so simple as having a common sweep for one gun then a first time dissimilar sweep for the other gun but kinda like the first sweep.
Santa Fe River Stan,36999L Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Is it a "P" Trap just because it's new to me? NO Anyone who would call a sweep a P Trap just because they have never shot it might be a butthead..... Stan
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 #1 Don't come down too hard on me... I hate the term P Trap... Slow down, listen and concentrate!!!! #2 Let the boos fly....3,2,1
Rye Miles #13621 Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 NO….if it's easy, YES if it's complicated.
Michigan Slim Posted October 27, 2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Since the world revolves around Straight Arrow Hombre, any sweep I can't figure out is a P trap for all. You're welcome. Yes, the world does revolve around you -at your size you create your own gravitational field and small planets gets pulled into orbit. P trap? No. Didn't listen and shot it wrong? Probably!
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