San Joaquin Shootist Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Howdy, Does everyone who runs a double use a shotshell belt with two rounds per pouch? I'm curious if anyone loads a double from a single loop shotshell belt still grabbing two shells of course? SJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) new Mernickle mil-spec elastic double-shell loops are as fast as I can go - lay middle finger between the pair of shells as I grab them. GJ Edited December 12, 2016 by Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Howdy, Does everyone who runs a double use a shotshell belt with two rounds per pouch? I'm curious if anyone loads a double from a single loop shotshell belt still grabbing two shells of course? SJS I normally use a shotshell belt with two rounds per pouch. However when I need to carry more than eight rounds I wear a canvas belt with single loops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I have a single loop belt I leave an open loop between each two 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I shoot a double. I've used single loops that hold two and I've used single loops (that hold one each) spaced closely together. I've found the latter to space the shells better for loading into the gun. Less fumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I've been using single loop ammo belts/slides since I started CAS 25 years ago. I can pull two rounds from anywhere on the belt without an empty loop between pairs. Same method when using any model shotgun (SxS with or without hammers, '97, or 1887). I have one double-loop snap-on slide that came with a complete gunbelt setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Does anyone use a bandolier? I saw a guy with one at BAC a couple of months ago. He wasn't world record fast but it seemed to work for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Does anyone use a bandolier? I saw a guy with one at BAC a couple of months ago. He wasn't world record fast but it seemed to work for him. I do. The tupelo bando works great. Especially for a double. I have a harder time using it with the 87, but I'm never going to be fast with that gun anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I have a single loop belt I leave an open loop between each two +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I use a slide that hold 8 rounds. Each round is in it's own loop but it's spaced between each 2 like as if there is an empty loop between 2 singles on a belt. I also have a belt. On that I just load up how ever many rounds I think I will need and grab from the left, 2 at a time. I tried the 2 shell loops and like McCandless mentioned, it gets fumbly that way because the rounds aren't spaced when you pull them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusta B. Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Does anyone use a bandolier? I saw a guy with one at BAC a couple of months ago. He wasn't world record fast but it seemed to work for him. Boozy Creek & Quickly Down Under come to mind & they're both pretty fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) I have a single loop belt I leave an open loop between each two Me too, On the rare occasions when I use a '97, I can put 3 shells in adjoining loops, skip one loop then put a single in the 5th loop so I can grab 4 at a time in my left hand, fitting the 4th shell between the ring and middle finger. Saves one trip to the belt. Edited December 13, 2016 by J-BAR #18287 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Muerto Negro Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I use a single loop belt. I do not leave an empty.I've tried other ways and this has been successful for me. EMN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I use a single loop belt for sxs and 97s. With a double, I pair shotshells, skip a loop, pair, skip, then four-plus, working from left to right. The four-plus are for a missed target or in case I forget to reload my belt for the next stage (never happened except in my mind). With the 97: three, skip, two (for four shot stages). I usually end up with the fifth shell in my hand ready for a missed shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Arrow Hombre Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 For awhile I used a Doc Noper belt with single canvas loops. Worked OK, but I ended up going back to a double leather loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oklahoma Dee Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I've been using single loop ammo belts/slides since I started CAS 25 years ago. I can pull two rounds from anywhere on the belt without an empty loop between pairs. Same method when using any model shotgun (SxS with or without hammers, '97, or 1887). I have one double-loop snap-on slide that came with a complete gunbelt setup. Had I started out like PaleWolf, I would have a few more championships in my pocket. As it is, I finally learned the hard way. This is the best way, in my opinion. I use the Doc Noper single canvas shotshell belt with 5 rifle/pistol reloads on each side. This is the best in the west..in my use of the side by side shotgun or the 97. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Does anyone use a bandolier? I saw a guy with one at BAC a couple of months ago. He wasn't world record fast but it seemed to work for him. I use a bandoleer & love it ! Smokestack is real quick with one..then that's the same for pistols & rifle !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Howdy, Does everyone who runs a double use a shotshell belt with two rounds per pouch? I'm curious if anyone loads a double from a single loop shotshell belt still grabbing two shells of course? SJS Yep, generally only use a slide with single loops just inboard of the strong side holster. Belt holds 24 rounds in single loops also. I tried the double loops early on, and found I fumbled more than when in singles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Your choice of single vs. double loop pouches should be determined by how you grab the shells. I grab them from the side between the forefinger and thumb of my weak hand. For that reason a double pouch works best for me. If you grab them from the top with your middle finger between the shells with your strong hand, single loops would probably work best for you. Here's a Longhunter video of both techniques. (Even though he uses the same belt for both.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGSHqDDlCL0 Edited December 13, 2016 by Shooting Bull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Muerto Negro Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Your choice of single vs. double loop pouches should be determined by how you grab the shells. I grab them from the side between the forefinger and thumb of my weak hand. For that reason a double pouch works best for me. If you grab them from the top with your middle finger between the shells with your strong hand, single loops would probably work best for you. Here's a Longhunter video of both techniques. (Even though he uses the same belt for both.) Different strokes as they say. I load thumb behind shells with weak hand and prefer the single loop. Imo the single loop when spaced correctly gives the perfect amount of space between the shells to load they just rock right in. Mu suggestion as with most things try both and see what you like. EMM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 The concept of trying to keep the shells spaced correctly from the belt,bando or whatever your using to the chambers while also trying to get max speed has never made sense to me I guess. I let the gun do that and try to do everything else as efficiently as possible. When someone shows me different on the timer I'll starting thinking about changing and teaching differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Muerto Negro Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 The concept of trying to keep the shells spaced correctly from the belt,bando or whatever your using to the chambers while also trying to get max speed has never made sense to me I guess. I let the gun do that and try to do everything else as efficiently as possible. When someone shows me different on the timer I'll starting thinking about changing and teaching differently. I can only speak from my experience and my technique. But when I use a double pouch or a single loop that places the brass touching my shells will split apart. EMN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) I tried different ways and loop configurations. Finally settled on what gives me a lesser case of the fumble-fingers and I practice that. Edited December 14, 2016 by McCandless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Roper Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Like Painted Mohawk said, Smokestack uses a bandolier extremely well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCatcher Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Howdy, Does everyone who runs a double use a shotshell belt with two rounds per pouch? I'm curious if anyone loads a double from a single loop shotshell belt still grabbing two shells of course? SJS I have been using a belt with 24 single loops on it, loaded with two rounds high, one down low, and the next two high again, etc. I grab two at a time to feed the gun, but have spare ammo if I need a single to finish a really bad run! I just had made a snap on belt slide that holds 8 shells in pockets of two each will be doing dry fire with snap caps, in anticipation of this spring. Shadow Catcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal TKD, Sass # 36984L Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I use a single leather pouch type belt. Kirkpatrick is maker. I settled on works best for me through trial and fumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky R. K. Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 The pouches on my shotgun belts hold two rounds with a small space between pouches. When I don't do a fumble fingers it works great. Lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackey Cole Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I usually make double loop/pocket slides and belts for myself. I bought myself the mernickle belt at eot and received it right before the se regional and really enjoyed the fact that the shells didn't fall out like pockets and even when only one shell was in it it still had enough tension to hold it I got the double loop belt and do not regret it. I'll probably order a three holsters at wr this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pit Bull Tex Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I use a double shell belt made by JM Leather and love it.I am not fast but try.I think cowboys like Deuce Stevens and Possum Skinner and some others will be fast no matter how they hold there shell.Just drop the rounds in a Qt. bucket and they would still be fast.They put the hours in and work very hard at the cowboy skills.I have never seen Deuce in person but watch him on you-tube but I get to shoot with Possum and they are fun to watch.Both these cowboys help any cowboy or cowgirl that need help.There are so many fast cowboys and cowgirls out there with their shotguns.Love to watch them shoot their shotguns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Bull Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I have never seen Deuce in person but watch him on you-tube........... Trust me, he's just as ugly in person. ( Luv ya' Duce. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Joaquin Shootist Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 Thanks for all the input and Merry Christmas SJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Boots, # 20282 LTG-Regulator Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) With Sassy needing a shotgun belt, I have started looking at today's new designs and such. I have been a fan of double "pockets" for a number of years, having several different version mostly differing in lay-out of rifle loops. With use of a superior elastic these days I am wondering if single row could not be a fine ticket even for double shooters. The single row canvas I had years ago was, as SS mentioned was fine, but for me it placed a tad more gap between two shells in my grab to please me. The elastic might not create that problem. The advantage I can imagine with the single row elastic is a more "endless" supply of shells and IF one was dropped, then just a reach for next two , or one, would have no thought as to a specific pair or pouch. However, I do not see an advantage in even the elastic if one felt the need to a skip loop in pairing. From the input shared here on this thread, this new elastic appears to be very long lasting. GJ mentioned one belt he has by Mernickle, but I have really been eyeing the elastic version race belt by Doc Noper. Anyone else have thoughts? Edited December 17, 2016 by Billy Boots, # 20282 LTG-Regulator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mud Marine,SASS#54686 Life Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 I use a single loop belt from Idaho Leaher for my ten gauge 3-1/2: and Hunter belts for duck hunting tens and, for fun, my 8 gauge 4-1/4". I can get 2 at a time to load my double for SASS. I use single loops for my "learner" .38 and .22 belts. I may buy double loops for my "newbies" in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarBillNewman Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I use a leather belt with single elastic loops made by Red Cent Leather.Have tried double loop leather,but the elastic seems easier and quicker to grab shells for my double barrel. Excellent quality,workmanship,and price. Add a slide for pistol/rifle reloads and you are set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventura Slim, SASS #35690 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I would vote for leather, two rounds per loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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