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shooting, hiking, hunting, fishing, building, gun smithing, wood working. SASS Regulator. NSCA super veteran.
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45 Cowboy Special Brass?
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 replied to Dusty Chaps, SASS #5925's topic in SASS Wire
But no one makes a C45Spl from a 45 Auto Rim. More than once. GJ -
Really close. I have both. GJ
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Prices have risen sharply due to true Winchester guns now being 80 years old or so many of the safe queens have now been cleared out by sales of estates, and the Chinese copies stopped coming into the country about 15 years ago. Use a barrel length similar to what your wife liked. No need to rock the boat. Smaller frame/lighter muscled people often do better with short (18-20") barrels. Winchester solid frame guns don't suffer from having a loose barrel lockup. Chinese guns came only in solid frame. I like the solid frame guns. Before hunting a shotgun, hunt for a 97 gunsmith close to you. You will have as much need for a gunsmith as you do ammo. 😉 With not having experience with 97s, run any you are thinking of buying through that gunsmith to get his opinion of it as a shooter. Yeah, I know that is hard to do. Keeping a 97 ready to run is harder than most other cowboy guns. GJ
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I have used Clay Dot as a near substitute for Clays. I usually find I need another 5% of weight of Clay Dot to make the same velocity SASS-light loads, whether in shotshells or pistol cartridges. Alliant website is very slow to test and publish light payload loads. Hodgdon, on the other hand, has been a leader in publishing 7/8 and even 3/4 ounce shotshell load data. But, of course, Clay Dot is an Alliant powder, and Hodgdon does not publish data for their powders. What a mess. good luck, GJ
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With the depression angle being fairly small, and typical revolver sight-in distances (7 to 10 yards), no point of aim difference shooting downhill or level. Same-same. Shoot till you get POI and POA aligned as close you want. With fixed sight revolvers, it is real important to have settled on a load that you figure you will use "forever." Changing your load (velocity and recoil) will make lots more difference in POI than most other thing you can do - other than a bad flinch. good luck, GJ
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Owl heads are on the top break Iver Johnsons. Looking toward cylinder - black powder just about ready to explode in there. Better watch out! Away from cylinder - nothing to see, it's smokeless powder. No smoke, no flame, just a speedy slug. Owls not on this specimen because grips were replaced with a wood Charter Arms set of grips. The gutta percha composition of the IJ grips meant they were broken if dropped or used to club an opponent. Ouch. good luck, GJ
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22LR sensitive to cold?
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 replied to John Barleycorn, SASS #76982's topic in SASS Wire
Lube congeals in cold weather. Clean the bolt/firing pin and rest of action. Use a cold-weather lube on reassembly (CLP). good luck, GJ -
Cataract Surgery Options
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 replied to J. Frank Norfleet's topic in SASS Wire
Norfleet - Been 20 years since I had both cataracts out. Before, I was near sighted and some astigmatism. I had close vision corrected lenses put in. Wasn't more than a week later that I wished they had been done as "distance plus astigmatism" corrected. But, I have always worn glasses and it was "same as before surgery" except it's now easier for the doc to keep me at 20/15 vision. So, I got a "good enough" result with the way I had it done. If I have to do a lot of close work, I can do without any glasses. get 'er done, you will appreciate good vision again. Wishing you best possible results. GJ -
OK, with a J 26485 serial, that is a 2nd Model (Black Powder) Hammerless Large Frame IJ. Made in 1904. Per the Goforth listings. I stand corrected about the trigger guard serial number. Goforth does indeed say that the beginning Letter Mark (the production lot) is omitted from the trigger guard stamping, but included on the left side of frame. The bottom of the grip frame at one time would have had about 5 Patent dates on it, running from 1886 to 1896. But, if the grip frame was ground to match new grips (those Charter Arms), those rollmarks would be gone. Be very cautious of shooting any smokeless powder load, even "factory" 38 S&W cartridges. The top latch and the cylinder are both fairly weak. The usual damage occurs to the top latch, where it gets battered to where it does not make a strong lockup on the latch lock post coming up under the rear sight area. And avoid using Hoppe's bore solvent (or other cleaners with ammonia) on this gun, as the nickel plating on these guns is easily bubbled and flaked. Your plating looks just about 100% - NICE. Don't often see these in this nice a cosmetic condition. good luck, GJ
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Those leaf spring extractors can easily get bent or just flat out lose tension with no warning. I always keep a spare in my smithing/cleaning bag. good luck, GJ
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Ditto what Randy wrote! Remington STS, or Rem Nitro 27 have brass head covers (real brass, not just brass plated), so they stick less than any steel head cover hulls. Win AA type hulls are almost as good. You already have the best shucking hulls. The European shotshells are not very likely to shuck well. You could get lucky, but probably not. I'll also suggest having the chambers honed JUST A SLIGHT BIT. By someone who will not hone the front of the chamber more than the back - it should if anything taper out wider next to the extractors. good luck, GJ
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Not true. As I have posted here several times, the definitive reference to date and define an Iver Johnson pistol is the book by W E Goforth, Has a pretty complete serial number set in it. "Iver Johnson Arms & Cycle Works Firearms 1871-1993 " published by Gun Show Books of Hudson WI. ISBN-10 number is: 0-9787086-0-1 Like this listing on EBay from Gun Show Books themselves: https://www.ebay.com/itm/174200101382 But don't go pay THAT price! Usually pretty easy to find used at a lower price. I'll look up in my copy to see if the OP gave enough pictures to exactly identify the production year.. First thing right off the bat, it is a Black Powder era gun, due to the long cylinder locking slots (these are the easiest way to tell). I read the serial as 46495 (tell me if that is not correct). That could make it an 1894 Large Frame First Model. Or an 1895 Large Frame Second Model. To tell the difference between the two, I would need the exact wording roll stamped into the rib of the barrel. It will contain the company name and several patent dates (from the 1800s). Post up the roll mark and we can find out. Several other things are different between First and Second models, but spotting those differences involves looking at specific parts of the gun that a new owner may not really understand where to look. good luck, GJ
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Poor barrel bedding/fit into stock would be the most common cause of vertical stringing. Not familiar with how the furniture fits to a trap door, but it should be snug around the action and may need to be snugged to hold barrel down to the forearm bedding spots. If the "barrel bands" on the stocks are not tight vertically, might try shimming the wood to tighten them up. Hint - I just tightened the barrel bed in a Springfield 1903A3 by making a thin brass-stock shim to place on the foremost 3 inches of the stock. Tightened 100 yard groups from 3" to 1", and let me shoot second in a 300 yard match (my two poor shots were ones I pulled off the steel targets). Lots of BP competitors use a blow tube to both cool barrel and let breath moisture keep the fouling soft. Some smokeless long range fellers use a battery-powered barrel fan between shot strings. I'm sure that you have cleaned any jacket copper out of the barrel from previous jacketed bullet shooting - ANY copper fouling has to be removed before switching to black power rounds, for best accuracy. True black powder burns out lead deposits - leading of barrel is not a problem. good luck, GJ
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Which 1911 would you buy for <$1000?
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 replied to Notso Slim, SASS #67301's topic in SASS Wire
Since VERY few 1911s of the pre-WW I design (the time frame of the Wild Bunch movie and several others of the Mexican revolutionary period) even exist, and AFAIK, none are currently manufactured, an EXACT period correct pistol would be effectively UNAVAILABLE to any new shooters wanting to try the game. I think you miss the point of a competitive game - that the organizing body (in this case the Wild Bunch arm of SASS) gets to set the rules and if needed to modify the rules. Which is still being done. With current emphasis on making the game MORE available to shooters, restricting to a very specific historical exactly-period-correct pistol for the Traditional category(-ies) would be a disaster to attracting new folks. May I suggest we stop rocking a boat which (I believe), in most participants view, does not need to be upset. Good luck, GJ