Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) Attorney for a condemned killer, has asked for an alternative to lethal injection, in the State of Virginia. Apparently the concoction is not thought to be humane and that even a firing squad would be more so. I didn't think the condemned got a vote. He killed a family of 4 on New Years Day, 2006. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/15/death-row-inmates-lawyers-say-theyd-prefer-firing-squad-over-lethal-injection.html Edited December 16, 2016 by Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog McCoy SASS #5672 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) An old rope and a tree would do the job and he would get off easier that the family he killed. Gray was convicted of killing Bryan and Kathryn Harvey and their 9-year-old and 4-year-old daughters during a home invasion. Bryan was a musician and Kathryn was co-owner of the World of Mirth toy store.The Harveys were preparing to host friends for a holiday chili dinner when Gray and another man spotted their open front door. They tied the family up in their basement, where they were stabbed and beaten to death before their house was set on fire. Gray claims he doesn't remember the killings because he was high on PCP. The other man was sentenced to life in prison. Edited December 16, 2016 by Maddog McCoy SASS #5672 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger #3720LR Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Here is a report on the cost of Death Penalty cases by state. I must warn everyone the numbers are staggering. Most of it is court and lawyers with housing cost on the ridiculous side. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I believe that firing squad is a too honorable way to die for an animal like this. Go ahead and do lethal injection, if there's a glitch, the backup should be to hit him in the head with a hatchet. That, or the KGB approach...the 9mm headache. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Why don't use the same injection they do for animals? One shot in the leg and they appear to leave us peacefully. Besides I don't see why we need to be humane to some scumbag killer. Life in prison should be shackled in a dungeon to a wall, seems less expensive anyway as compared to the luxo accommodations in some prisons nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largo casey #19191 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 The victims don't get a choice.. Largo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just get it done! No wonder executions cost so much due to endless appeals!. Sure didn't take long to take out McVeigh so why not the same for all this other trash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulp, SASS#28319 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 McVeigh chose to forego the endless list of appeals and get it over with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 How about a .45 in the back of the head??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Louis Suomi SASS #31905 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 A hit to the back of the cranium with a small hatchet works wonders - and the instrument is reusuable - should last indefinitely. STL Suomi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Hair, SASS #29557 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 ................Let the punishment fit the crime, the punishment fit the crime..................from The Mikado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 The goody-2-shoe folks say if they use too much fluid in the injection it would be over-kill, there4 the proper amount has to be used and no one knows just how much is the right amount. It's all about the criminal and their rights. Why it's called the criminal justice system, not the victim justice system. From one Detective that's been involved in a few death penalty cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I'm one of those who thinks that there is no need to be humane when there was none shown to the victims! DROWN THE BASTARDS!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry T Harrison Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Go down to the evidence room get a dozen bags of pure heroin inject into a vein problem solved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I'm one of those who thinks that there is no need to be humane when there was none shown to the victims! DROWN THE BASTARDS!!! You didn't ask for one, but: AMEN!!!! Or as your lookalike once said: Just take them rascals out in the swamp Put 'em on their knees and tie 'em to a stump Let the rattlers and the bugs and the alligators do the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 He likes PCP so give him an overdose of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 No comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeBagodonuts Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Firing squad? Not old school enough. I'd suggest a guillotine as a viable alternative. For this monster, I'd even suggest putting him on his back, so he can see the blade coming down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Brake fluid! They should use a brake fluid IV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 I am pro death penalty. The problem is that, in too many cases, an agressive DA pushed for the death penalty without enough evidence. A jury was convinced of guilt, but a DA focused more on his or her reputation than the truth leading to a questionable conviction. Then it is like a hair in a biscuit: one is enough to cause doubt for the whole system. The death penalty should require witness and indisputable evidence. Set the bar very high but then allows a judicial review that takes no more than 30 days and then the sentence is carried out within a few weeks. Then the dp would be the deterent that it should be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) If I were the condemned and allowed to choose between two, I'd choose a firing squad. But, ol' King Solomon had it right thousands of years ago. Ecclesiastes 8:11 (HCSB) 11: Because the sentence against a criminal act is not carried out quickly, the heart of the people is filled with the desire to commit crime. Edited December 17, 2016 by Birdgun Quail, SASS #63663 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawhorse Kid Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 He is supposed to be punished for his crime, If he likes PCP he will down happy. If you want to punish him, make him go down sober. He likes PCP so give him an overdose of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 He is supposed to be punished for his crime, If he likes PCP he will down happy. If you want to punish him, make him go down sober. Just thinkin' that since it was his drug of choice, there would be no way his lawyer could lodge an objection to it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_slinger Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 sell raffle tickets for people who want to pull the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Bascomb, SASS # 47,494 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 States could accumulate convicted miscreants and provide a great side match for annual matches...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 I'm thinking Gladiator games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Gotta pay for cleaning up the hazardous waste. It's a losing proposition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 I personally feel that anyone convicted of a crime worthy of the death penalty beyond any reasonable doubt should be vanished. Presented upon sentencing to a team of men in black and whisked away in an unmarked vehicle never to be seen or heard from again. No prison. No family or friend interaction. Nothing. Think of the psychlogical aspects of that. One is sentenced then one is gone...forever. How do they vanish, what happens to them you ask? Who cares. They are gone. No what ifs. No BS. Just gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 Read about some dude in England, many years ago. He was some kind of Lord or Duke or something. Anyway, he had this castle. Someone ticked him off, so he had a hole in his castle that was very deep, maybe fifteen or twenty feet deep. So he put this guy in the hole and just left him. No food, no water, nuttin. They did discover bones at a later date. It was thought to be the dude that ticked him off. The cost would not be sizable in a case like that and you could use the hole over and over. Also, one of the punishments for pirates was to put them in a steel cage and hang them up for public ridicule, again, no food, no water and no protection from the elements. Those English dudes were a tough bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 The fly in my beer is that court lawyers, on both sides, are not after truth but a win. The Duke lacrosse 'rape' case where a DA pushed for convictiins even though all evidence proved the victim was lying is just one example. The DP has real value as a deterent, but the evidence must include eyewitnesses with no doubt, DNA or other solid proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Public hanging and put it on Pay per View with proceeds going to the victim's family!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Although it would be expensive in terms of fuel and maintenance, a small aircraft could be used to transport the guilty to a deep body of water, two to five miles from the nearest shore. Some old batteries or similar weights tied to the miscreant's feet, and pushed out the aircraft door. If the perp could swim/walk to shore, then he'd be allowed to go free! Otherwise, I agree with the Mikado..."Let the punishment fit the crime!" Problem with this all is the Constitutional prohibition against "cruel and unusual punishment"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presidio Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I say....take their life in the same exact way that they took their victims. And to hell with being humane....they weren't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Public hanging and put it on Pay per View with proceeds going to the victim's family!! I've said that for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus Cassidy #45437 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 If I had to be executed, I would want to go by firing squad. That said, everything everybody has brought up in this thread holds true: The victims didn't get a choice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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