Reuben McCoy Rankin # 34239 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I personally feel that anyone convicted of a crime worthy of the death penalty beyond any reasonable doubt should be vanished. Presented upon sentencing to a team of men in black and whisked away in an unmarked vehicle never to be seen or heard from again. No prison. No family or friend interaction. Nothing. Think of the psychlogical aspects of that. One is sentenced then one is gone...forever. How do they vanish, what happens to them you ask? Who cares. They are gone. No what ifs. No BS. Just gone. What he said, I like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 I kinda like the hole in the castle idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I kinda like the hole in the castle idea. I saw one of those holes at Warwick Castle in England. It was a hole in a stone floor of the dungeon that was about 12 feet deep. Bottom of the hole was about 4'x4'. It had a metal grate over the hole. It would be easy to forget about you down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasty Newt # 7365 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Negan and Lucille could take care of this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Stud Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Negan and Lucille could take care of this problem. Negan... TWD fella who also deserves a snuff-endin', as well? Why give him the satifaction of aleviatin' somebody's problem? I would put the bat to him, myself. hehehe I used to be in favor of the death penalty. But there have been so many on death-row that have DNA-tested otherwise... that, over the years, I begun to re-think my philosophy. Absolute proof... without witness aspersions. Just cold, hard facts. Witnesses are not reliable. A fact. That's the only way... Otherwise... I am not for a jury or judge-convicted death-sentence without an "absolute" irrefutable evidential admission in court. Just too many mistakes can be made. If anybody can pull the death-lever... on a possibly, later-proven innocent man... you are... I would say "not better"... but a different man than me. I could not do it and would not convict without "absolute" proof. This will not make folks happy with me. Well... who cares... join the club. ts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 TS everybody gets a bellybutton and an opinion. You just stated yours. Nothing wrong with that. Some may not agree with it, but I believe that reasonable folks will accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriscoCounty Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I agree with Tennessee Stud and Tom Bullweed, too many convictions are being overturned because of DNA and corrupt witnesses. There is also the cost of the process of execution in this country, there are better ways to spend the money. I kinda favor the Feds building a prison just for such criminals - death penalty, life without parole, etc - in some remote area. You go in and you never come out. Cheap to build, just losts of fences and nothing for days around. Don't even need doors on the cells. How well would you sleep every night, knowing everyone else there is a murderer and the door tain't locked? Heh heh heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 The fly in my beer is that court lawyers, on both sides, are not after truth but a win. The Duke lacrosse 'rape' case where a DA pushed for convictiins even though all evidence proved the victim was lying is just one example. The DP has real value as a deterent, but the evidence must include eyewitnesses with no doubt, DNA or other solid proof. I agree with you except for the deterent part. The death penalty has never worked as a deterent in any society it has ever been used, no matter how swift. The best example is when they used to hang pick pockets in the public square and yet that was the most profitable events for pick pocketing. The real purpose for the death penalty is that some people are just to despicable to live another day. If only the courts could get it right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry T Harrison Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 It sure as hell deters the guy with the needle in his arm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasty Newt # 7365 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Negan... TWD fella who also deserves a snuff-endin', as well? Why give him the satifaction of aleviatin' somebody's problem? I would put the bat to him, myself. hehehe I used to be in favor of the death penalty. But there have been so many on death-row that have DNA-tested otherwise... that, over the years, I begun to re-think my philosophy. Absolute proof... without witness aspersions. Just cold, hard facts. Witnesses are not reliable. A fact. That's the only way... Otherwise... I am not for a jury or judge-convicted death-sentence without an "absolute" irrefutable evidential admission in court. Just too many mistakes can be made. If anybody can pull the death-lever... on a possibly, later-proven innocent man... you are... I would say "not better"... but a different man than me. I could not do it and would not convict without "absolute" proof. This will not make folks happy with me. Well... who cares... join the club. ts Just kidding, but don't worry, Negan will get his. I think the pendulum is swinging away from the death penalty, for the reasons you state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 It sure as hell deters the guy with the needle in his arm THAT IS WHAT I WAS THINKING. HE AIN'T GONNA DO IT AGAIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry T Harrison Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I agree with Tennessee Stud and Tom Bullweed, too many convictions are being overturned because of DNA and corrupt witnesses. There is also the cost of the process of execution in this country, there are better ways to spend the money. I kinda favor the Feds building a prison just for such criminals - death penalty, life without parole, etc - in some remote area. You go in and you never come out. Cheap to build, just losts of fences and nothing for days around. Don't even need doors on the cells. How well would you sleep every night, knowing everyone else there is a murderer and the door tain't locked? Heh heh heh. Do you mean like this place https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Dolphin_Prison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I agree with you except for the deterent part. The death penalty has never worked as a deterent in any society it has ever been used, no matter how swift. The best example is when they used to hang pick pockets in the public square and yet that was the most profitable events for pick pocketing. The real purpose for the death penalty is that some people are just to despicable to live another day. If only the courts could get it right It is a sure fire way to cure recidivism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) Then of course there's always this tried and true method of dealing with some of these evil death penalty monsters: From "Geronimo An American Legend" (MPAA rating PG-13). Al Sieber, Indian Scout (Robert Duvall): "They got lots of ways to kill you. One of their favorites is to strip you, tie you upside down to a wagon wheel. They pour pitch on you.....light you on fire. (Clucks his tongue.)" In many of these death penalty cases, that thought may begin to swim around in your mind as being appropriate. :-) :-) Edited December 24, 2016 by Cat Brules, SASS #14086 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Trapper Tom Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Public stoning or hanging. The public needs to be witness as a deterrent to more crime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Trail Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Well, I'll jump in here. I have a dark side, especially for evil doers like the scumbag detailed here. My solution is: Let me have him for 24 hours. Edited December 25, 2016 by Lost Trail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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