Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I gotta start loading some .45-70 soon, I used to use Clay's but I'd like to know what everyone's using out there. It's for a Marlin 1895 Cowboy. No I am NOT going to load black powder so save your BP comments please!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al OVERA, SASS#26238 Life Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I use Alliant 5744. Clean, not position sensitive, easy ignition with std primers. Al 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Trail Boss for the light loads and Varget for the bigger boom. PM Sent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Arrow Hombre Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 IMR SR 4759 till it's gone then switching to Accurate 5744 for cowboy loads. IMR 4198 for hunting loads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Unique works well here and you don't need much. OLG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 + 1 on Unique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunger Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Lumpy told me to use unique in my 1895...........it shoots tight with the 405 at 100. No complaint from me. Lunger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunger Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Almost forgot, 4198 worked great also. Recoil may have been a little sharper, but it didn't kick you really hard. I didn't have any 5744 to try. I don't think my rifle was fussy. It wanted to run right outta the gate...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seldom Seen #16162 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 IMR-3031 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Nuther vote for 5744 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 H 4895,,, 5744,,,, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Art Tillery Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 H4198 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 AA5744, IMR3031, but... in fact, your intended use may include a bunch of others. For cast loads, get a Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook, Ed. #4, it'll give you what they found as the most accurate load (in their test platform, YMMV), and many choices. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) Almost forgot, 4198 worked great also. Recoil may have been a little sharper, but it didn't kick you really hard. I didn't have any 5744 to try. I don't think my rifle was fussy. It wanted to run right outta the gate...... I have a nice light load for 4198 or 4895 if anyone is interested. So far I have tested it with bullets from 350 to 425 grains with good results. Edited January 26, 2017 by Sedalia Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cemetery Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Use APP, or Triple 7. You didn't say anything about BP subs........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 Use APP, or Triple 7. You didn't say anything about BP subs........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attica Jack #23953 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Hodgdon 4198, behind a 405 lead bullet using the lowest powder charge listed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Not sure if this is pertinent but when I was loading 38-55 I tried many powders but the 5744 gave me the best results all around. My friend that loaded 45-70 suggested it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Wheeler Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I load a 405 grain bullet over Trail Boss, which gets me 1,056 fps out of my Marlin 1895 Cowboy with a 26" barrel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Trail Boss. I started out with 4198, but while the "Trapdoor safe" loads were fine in my 1884 Trapdoor RIFLE, were real shoulder thumpers in my 1873 Trapdoor Carbine and 86 Winchester with a 20" barrel. Switched to Trailboss and now it is a very pleasant round to shoot in all those guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinpan McGurk Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 IMR3031, 4198, 4195 and Trailboss depending on what is available. I like Trailboss but to me it can be a bit expensive when you consider that they don't give you a full pound for the price and 45-70 eats a lot of powder. The IMR powders do seem to pack more recoil even in my Sharps heavy buffalo rifle which weights in at over 9 lbs. I shoot the Sharps, a Henry all Weather and an 1886. TInpan McGurk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 BP, 3031, 4198, 5744 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totes Magoats Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I've used Trail Boss and of course BP and the BP subs. All my pards around here swear by Unique. I picked up a pound to try out, but have not shot any of them yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.A. Custer 70498 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Accurate 5744 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I use BP or Unique . I have said a Thousand Times . You Can Load Anything With Unique. For Mild to Mild Magnum Unique will do most anything . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faygo Kid, SASS # 26408 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Hey Rye....I got some OOOOOLD unique. You load up some cartridges with that and your pards might thing you went back to being a Soot Lord...LOL Faygo(that'll see ya in the spring)Kid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) I use TB and ADI 2207 (4198 equiv). I use the TB for plinking loads in my Sabatti DR (around 1000fps) and the 2207 makes the hot loads for the DR and my Sharps (by hot I mean around 1400fps for the sharps and 1900fps for the DR). I use 405gr cast slugs in both rifles and I have 405gr Woodleighs for anything that needs to be knocked over (we have some big pigs, and one day I want to take a Water Buffalo with it). Edited January 27, 2017 by Major Crimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Wesson Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 IMR3031, 4198, 4195 and Trailboss depending on what is available. I like Trailboss but to me it can be a bit expensive when you consider that they don't give you a full pound for the price and 45-70 eats a lot of powder. The IMR powders do seem to pack more recoil even in my Sharps heavy buffalo rifle which weights in at over 9 lbs. I shoot the Sharps, a Henry all Weather and an 1886. TInpan McGurk 4195? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Plasters, SASS#60943 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 4198, 3031 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 http://reloadammo.com/4570load.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Reb, SASS #54804 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 2400 and 3031. I use 3031 for the heavy loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffield, SASS #23454 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 IMR 3031 is your friend in this caliber. Duffield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Hays Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 I need help with the reloading dies of the 45-70 What are the best dies I am using the Redding 80209 with the Lee factor crimp the bullet setter is not working on 500gr projectiles Please let me know what dies to get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Much good advice here, I won't add to the powder selections because fine fellows who are younger, smarter and better lookin' than me have already given sound advice. Let me instead expand on using Unique. I thought "It's a big case and a small amount of powder, I'll make sure it's against the flash hole" -- so I stuffed wadded up squares of toilet paper on top of the powder charge. Three shots and it looked like I was shooting chickens instead of a Gould's Express. Cleaned up my mess, quit using toilet tissue, went to a card wad atop the powder and corn meal to take up the rest of the volume. Probably unnecessary but a little knowledge is a dangerous thing and I know just enough to get in trouble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 Thanks for all the suggestions...... Rye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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