Two Spurs Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Over in the thread “If you could just meet one cowboy actor, who would it be?” there were a wagon load of great responses. The silver screen favorites included those who started the ball rolling in the early black and whites, recent and current actors, and of course- The Duke himself, John Wayne. While most were/are actors only, you also have guys like Ben Johnson, Tom Selleck, and others who were/are flat out real deal cowboys and horsemen. (This to me is the coolest.) Possum Skinner later said that he’d rather see his Grandpa again than any actor that ever lived. THAT was a moment to pause and nod my head with a smile. How great that is… After that Mr. Pettifogger then brought up another interesting point: If I could meet one "cowboy actor?" In other words someone who is not a cowboy, but an actor pretending to be a cowboy. Many Hollywood actors are drunk, druggy, liberals and I have no desire to meet these. There are many actors I would enjoy meeting, but not necessarily because they have "played" a cowboy. If I could meet someone from the old west it would be Wild Bill Hickok or John Wesley Hardin not some Hollywood type. Which brings us to the next question: If you could meet a REAL person from the old west, who would it be and why? I gotta really think about this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 based ONLY on the type of character that Hollywood has portrayed and actually not knowing alot of their history, on of my picks would be Doc Holliday. Jesse James would also be on the top of the list. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas John Ringo, SASS #10138 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Gotta agree with Pettifogger.........John Wesley Hardin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 I would like to talk to G. A. Custer and tell him "Don't!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSnake Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Al Sieber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil dogooder Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Charlie pitts, he rode with the james gang, also happens to be a relative. My grandfather was named after him and I'm named after my grandfather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Man Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Wes Hardin because I live near his old stombing area and I once had a best friend who was kin to him and I dated his sister back in 1960s. That was a strange family too. I had the chance to try on his boots and hat once. He was a true gunfighter and later after he got out of prision He married a lady from Junction and I have a ranch near by their old home. I also knew a old man by the name of Pete Bland that told me about when he went on a trail ride with Hardin and Also I talked with J. Marvin Hunter author of the 1920s area Fronier Times and He knew Hardin personally. I have an idea there were more men like Hardin at the time just as deadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 William Clark (of Lewis and Clark) James Masterson (Bat's brother that is rarely heard of but was involved in more arrests, more shootouts and more town cleanups) Teddy Roosevelt (in his western days) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calico Mary Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Chiefs Hosa and Niwot, Black Kettle, or Sitting Bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowdy Yates, SASS #141 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 David Crockett. No question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 General Custer, and I'd ask him why he thought it was such a good idea to leave the Gatling guns behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Buffalo Bill Cody. After spending a couple of days in Cody, and touring the museum, I think he was "the most interesting man in the world" of his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafe Conager SASS #56958 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Teddy Roosevelt- just an awesome person in history- cowboy, rancher, soldier George Custer- civil war hero, controversial Indian fighter (love him or hate him) Wyatt Earp- lawman, outlaw to some, entrepreneur that never quite made it Wild Bill Hickok.- do you really need a reason? Rafe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashknife Cowboy Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Lincoln......Great Grandfather Santini in Texas 1885 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirrupTrouble Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Either Geronimo or Sitting Bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendoo KId Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Any relative of mine that may have been there. Looking into it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Pepper Kid, SASS #60463 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Buffalo Bill Cody. After spending a couple of days in Cody, and touring the museum, I think he was "the most interesting man in the world" of his time. +1. And also because I have portrayed him at the Birthplace museam in LeClaire Iowa. CPK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Nemesis Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Jesse James Because I did a report on him in High school ( wow that was a long time ago) and found him interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oklahoma Dee Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Hah! Thats an easy one! Bill Tilghman - US Marshal of Oklahoma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. John Campbell, SASS #58165 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Mine's pretty easy, I'd like to meet the man who's name I chose to honor for my SASS alias, Sgt. John E. Campbell of the Arizona Rangers. Sgt. Jeff Kidder, also of the Arizona Rangers, would be another I'd enjoy meeting as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scout Brown Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 1. Deputy U.S. Marshal--Bass Reeves--the real Lone Ranger; 2. James Butler Hickok-Prince of Pistoleers; 3. Mountain man James Beckworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 C. Smith, who was some sort of Overland station agent in present day southwest Montana in the 1860's. I have his 1849 Colt and would like to ask him how it came to be lost in a field three miles east of East Helena, Montana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Wyatt Earp. I've read so much about this man, what an interesting life. No question, good ol' Wyatt! Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curley Fryes Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Wyatt Earp. I've read so much about this man, what an interesting life. No question, good ol' Wyatt! Rye +1....also to find out how much about his written history is made up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eamon Chute Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 His Excellency Norton I, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico. EC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Dunn Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 One of my distant relatives, John B. Dunn, Texas Ranger, Author of "The Perilous Trails of Texas", Founder of the Dunn Museum, and one of the founding families of Corpus Christi, Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 A man named Henry Pell. He was a young civilian teamster working for the Army out of Sidney Barracks, Nebraska, in 1875-76. He was with Crook's column during the Big Horn & Yellowstone Expedition of 1876, and carried a Sharps Carbine. I been tracking him for over 40 years, off & on. He would be fascinating to talk to in order to fill in blanks in his life (he live to be 84 years old). Aside from Pell, Charles M. Russell, Bill Tilghman, Tom Horn (did he really shoot the Nichols boy, or not), Doc Holliday, et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Bane, SASS 13557 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 John "Liver-Eating" Johnson. "A mountain man's a lonely man And he leaves a lot behind. It ought to have been different But you often times will find The story doesn't always go the way you had in mind Jeremiah's story was that kind..." Wolf Bane SASS13557 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvil Al #59168 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Sitting Bull Wild Bill Hickok O Loving & C Goodnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 My great-grandfather, Charlie Van Bowen Harley, from whom I took my alias. He was a deputy marshal out of Fort Smith, Arkansas in the waning days of the Old West. Left the Marshals' Service to marry Ella Ophelia McVay and settle down in Paris, Arkansas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Chief Joseph of the Nez Pierce. Hin-mah-too-yah-lat-kekt. Would like to camp with him in the Wallowa Valley. "You might as well expect rivers to run backwards as any man born free to be contented penned up." Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Over in the thread “If you could just meet one cowboy actor, ..................... ........................ After that Mr. Pettifogger then brought up another interesting point: Which brings us to the next question: If you could meet a REAL person from the old west, who would it be and why? I gotta really think about this one. I really must agree about meeting the actors. Aside from their (usually) limited ability to portray real people, THEY, themselves are a pitiful group of brown-nosing, undereducated, empty-headed nothings. They are not real at all and support agendas that most Americans despise. SO, moving on to which Old West Character I would like to meet, and WHY, here's the one at the top of my list. Wild Bill HIckock (see below for why) I would also like to meet Billy the Kid and Jesse James. BUT, I think Hickock would be someone I could converse with for a significant period of time and get real answers. I am just not sure either Billy or Jesse would first, WANT to do that and second, BE ABLE to for a significant period of time without becoming beligerant. Also, I think Hickock is the one who actually, by his documented exploits, pretty much created the fictional persona of the Wild West gunfighter and badman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 +1....also to find out how much about his written history is made up! I'm reading a book now titled, "The Lady at the OK Corral", it's about Josie and Wyatt and their life of adventure. The emphasis is on Josey but there's alot about all the Earps. Great read! If yer into Wyatt Earp you'll love this book. Author is Anne Kirshner Rye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefro, SASS#69420 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 "Buck Barry" Texas Ranger and Frontiersman...........book by James K Greer. Buck was one of the real frontiersman. His great grandfather and grandfather shipped here to America disuised as an emigrant to save his neck from a British halter. Buck was raised here where I live in Sneads Ferry NC before heading west. Although Jim Bowie and Davy Crockett were more celebrated. Buck Barry did as much or more to tame the Old Southwest. In 1845 young James Buckner Barry joined the newly fromed Texas Rangers. He fought outlaws and Indians from the Red River to the Rio Grande, served in the Mexican and Civil War, and served Bosque County Texas as a Peace officer and legislator. Buck did his last scouting for the Army in 1867 and died in 1907. Much of the book is in Bucks' own words due to the prodding of his son knowing that this part of Texas history must be preserved. It is one of the best books I've read from that era, but becuse a bunch of it is from Bucks' own words I had to go to the dictionary a few times to understand what they were reffering to, this became fun at times. It was a real eye opener as to how they really lived, and died in those times. Check it out and see what you think, yer gonna like it. Good Luck THE RANGER Once along the border, like the drift of autum leaves, Thronged the Indians, desperadoes and the cattle lifting thieves Untill ther came swift-riding over the valley, hill, and flat The Law in dirk and derringer and tall --white--hat. Rip Ford and old Buck Barry--there is glamor in the names Of the men who made Rangers, as the record still procaims: The lifter left the cattle and the outlaw hid his gat When they thought about the rider in the tall--white--hat As tall as he his story from the borderland uncouth-- Some of it is legend but most of it is truth... For fact stands out of hard fought fight, or years of stand-up strife-- The Ranger rode the border and the outlaw rode for life. His is a tale unended. Still riding down the years Come the hoofbeats of the Ranger and his stalwart form appears... Though dark may be the danger, he has no care for that, Riding on into the future in his tall--white--hat. William B. Ruggles, Dallas Jefro Relax-Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 My Great Great Great Grandfather David Smith. Was an Overland Stage driver, hauled freight to the gold rush country, fought in the Civil War for California. Stationed at Ft. Ruby, Nv guarding the gold shipments from Calif. Mostly fought indians. After the war mined silver in Austin, Nv. Later settled in Campo, Ca.and owned a stage stop/general store. Most famous person....would be Teddy Roosevelt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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