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2 hours ago, Cypress Sun said:

Just remember that ANY pro gun state can become an anti gun state in just one or two election cycles.

 

 

That may be true, but the last time our congressional district went liberal was 1964 for Lyndon Johnson.

So feelin' kinda safe so far.

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Southern Missouri/northern Arkansas has a good balance of seasons without a lot of snow, reasonable real estate prices and reasonable taxes.  Talk to Lawdog Dago Dom, he chose Bolivar, MO over Illinoi

Weather wise it sounds perfect. Except for the other stuff. To bad ya'll got californication.

So your area is regularly patrolled by the Police department I see.

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I want to move down the street from Forty Rod.  Don't bother with Wisconsin.  Not much snow this year.  We had our usual 10 day sub zero cold snap.  Taxes are reasonable as long as you don't have lakeshore property.  Property values are pretty reasonable.  People are generally decent.  Stay out of Dane County (Madison).  Every American Communist in the state are there.  One of the best things are that we have around 5 months of no bugs or snakes.  My wife hates snakes so I would be hard pressed to have her live somewhere else.  We opened a facility outside KC that I am eyeing up.  If it does snow, two days later it is gone.  Problem there are the snake and spiders.  Spiders as big as squirrels, at least to me.

 

Sounds like you have some good suggestions.  Good luck.

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15 hours ago, Sixgun Sheridan said:

Weather-wise western WA state is exactly what you want. Mild summers and winters, rarely ever below 30 or above 90. Of course it rains a lot, but you quickly get used to it. Up until a few years ago our gun laws were great as well, and we were an A state according to the NRA. Unfortunately the liberals are taking over and we're now a B grade at best.

Heartily agree!  We searched when it was retirement time, but frankly the climate in Washington State is excellent, western far better than eastern, unless you like hot summers.  Even then I'd take that over some of the other places I've lived before (NY, Tx, Az).  We're out on the Olympic peninsula, so we're getting more maritime cooling than in other parts of the state, making it very comfy for us.  Gun laws are getting a bit difficult, due to the californication of Seattle and Tacoma, so we can also use help getting this changed with more pro-gun voters. 

 

We're in Port Angeles, so there is a very large Hospital near by, a Coast Guard station with Border Patrol as well (Canada is a short ferry ride away).  We have no State Income Tax, so your retirement funds go further.  We have easy access to major shopping areas (an hour away), can be in Seattle in 2 hours (not that I can think of a reason for doing that). We are where the mountains meet the sea, so game hunting and federal forest land is all just minutes away.  We have paved trails, some natural trails, and generally it's an outdoor persons paradise for sailing, kayak and canoeing, fishing, bicycling, and just having fun.  We're zone 8 for gardening, mild year round climate with rare snow.  It rains, but not more than NY (39 inches per annum), just spread out over more drizzle and less downpour!

 

I'd suggest a road trip or vacation out here, visit Whidbey Island, the San Juans, Port Townsend and Port Angeles, and the rain forests. 

 

Good luck in your search, this can be one of the hardest one's to do - especially if you're looking for one and done.

 

SC

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1 hour ago, Tom Bullweed said:

I am in NC but could easily live in Tenn.  Areas between Chattanooga and Nashville are nice.

We currently live on Lake of the Ozarks in central Missouri and love having so many SASS clubs within a reasonable drive.  We can literally shoot every weekend and both days most weekends.

 

That said, we lived south of Nashville for several years and have seriously considered moving to the plateau for retirement.  We also spent many years in north Texas and the area out around Stephenville and Dublin is also high on our list.

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41 minutes ago, Lawdog Dago Dom said:

That may be true, but the last time our congressional district went liberal was 1964 for Lyndon Johnson.

So feelin' kinda safe so far.

Thankfully, if anything, because of the number of conservatives moving into our rural counties, Missouri continues to buck the trends in other states.  When we moved here 14 years ago, we had 1 Republican and 1 Democrat senator and it was 5 to 3 Republican for House reps.  Today, both senators and 6 of the 8 reps are Republican.  And all of them are very pro-2A.  Not surprisingly the 2 Democrat reps cover Kansas City and St. Louis.

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19 hours ago, Sixgun Sheridan said:

Weather-wise western WA state is exactly what you want. Mild summers and winters, rarely ever below 30 or above 90. Of course it rains a lot, but you quickly get used to it. Up until a few years ago our gun laws were great as well, and we were an A state according to the NRA. Unfortunately the liberals are taking over and we're now a B grade at best.

 

No, not everyone gets used to the rain. It is one of the reasons we left WA.

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10 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Yea but the gun laws are OMG!!!:angry:

Yeah.  I druther carve my own guts out with a wooden spoon than go to back there for any reason.

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9 hours ago, Go West said:

It's tricky trying to find a good compromise with affordability, climate and politics. 

No 'tain't. You did it and so did I.  :D

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4 hours ago, Finagler 6853 Life said:

I want to move down the street from Forty Rod.  Don't bother with Wisconsin.  Not much snow this year.  We had our usual 10 day sub zero cold snap.  Taxes are reasonable as long as you don't have lakeshore property.  Property values are pretty reasonable.  People are generally decent.  Stay out of Dane County (Madison).  Every American Communist in the state are there.  One of the best things are that we have around 5 months of no bugs or snakes.  My wife hates snakes so I would be hard pressed to have her live somewhere else.  We opened a facility outside KC that I am eyeing up.  If it does snow, two days later it is gone.  Problem there are the snake and spiders.  Spiders as big as squirrels, at least to me.

 

Sounds like you have some good suggestions.  Good luck.

Not many bugs here and while we are supposedly "home" to most of the poisonous snakes in the USA, I have yet to see one.  Got four or five kinds of deer, pronghorns, bobcats, an occasional elk, lots of raptors and waterfowl, song birds, upland game birds, and colorful tweeters of all kinds.  A few rabbits and javelina and once in a blue moon a bear, even a few annoying coyotes, and some skunks. 

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5 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

 


How is the humidity in Kansas in the summertime?

Those ocean breezes can dampen it down a bunch.

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6 hours ago, Dantankerous said:

 

The humidity in the summer can be brutal.  It's not constant and frequently the wind helps but sometimes you will need a shower just going to your mailbox and back. It's not as bad as southern Texas but I very much prefer a drier hot summer climate.  I am a big fan of the high desert. Lower elevations in Colorado, say 7000' ish are also quite nice.

I agree on the high desert areas of the Southwest.   Elevations between 4,000 and 6,000 feet are quite nice.  Snow is infrequent and melts quickly.  Temperatures drop quickly at night.  Look at Southern Utah around St. George, Prescott and Tucson in Arizona, and Central New Mexico in the Rio Grande Valley.  We do have strong Spring winds.  However, they are not every day and mornings are calm.  You can investigate tax rates, crime stats and gun laws online.

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Good luck finding the perfect weather fit.  Honestly.

 

I grew up in Iowa (cold & snow), with the Navy I was in San Diego (nice weather, lousy politics), Illinois (more snow), Connecticut (mild winters, nothing to do in winter), Hawaii (no snow, but intense sun), and retired in Arizona (minimal snow, but hot in summer.

 

If I ever win the Lottery I will keep my home here in Arizona for the winters and find something to the north for during the summer months.  But, that is not likely to happen.

 

Take care,

BS

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23 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

Got a nice place down the street from my place.  Three BR, two bath, three car garage on a half acre lot.  Mother-in-law house on the premises.  Lots more in a hour's drive.

 

No curbs or gutters or sidewalks.  No street lights and only a couple of stop signs.  5 to 15 minutes to most of what passes for a down town,  a few dozen good eating places, a mile and a half from a regional hospital, 11 miles from much bigger hospital, 7 miles from the VA hospital.  A grand event center with everything from gun shows to ice skating, to indoor bull riding, to you name it.

 

At least two SASS clubs in the vicinity, gun stores galore in the neighborhood, something like 22 miles from Gunsight Academy, and some of the best gun smiths, engravers, and leather smiths anywhere.

 

Give it a look.

 

Zip code 86314

 

Are you sure it's a nice place if it has a mother-in-law house on the premises??? :lol:

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I'm with 40-Rod. I live NW of Prescott 17 miles out Williamson Valley way. We get 300 days of sunshine a year. Yes we get all four seasons. We live in pinon and juniper country and see deer, elk, javalina, quail, fox, bobcats, antelope, and other critters regularly. Most folks never see a rattlesnake. I hunt them so I hope to see all I can. My wife used to get depressed when we lived in Indiana because of the winter dreary weather weeks on end. Now she can't stop saying how glad she is that we moved back. We hike to find petroglyphs, go fishing, go look at the cacti flowers, etc. The great things about Prescott is that if I don't like the temperature, I can go 90 minutes and get out of it. If I'm cold, I can head down to Wickenburg and get 20 degrees warmer. If I'm hot, I can drive up to Flagstaff and loose 15 degrees, or go to Snow Bowl and loose another 15 degrees. If I want to go bass fishing I can head down to Lake Pleasant, right by Winter Range. If I want to explore hundreds of miles of canyonlands lake, I can head up to Lake Powell. If I want to be in county like Colorado, I can head over to the White Mountains and go trout fishing. I won't live long enough to see and do everything this state has to offer. And we live just two hours from the big gully everyone wants to see.

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3 hours ago, Flatwater Monte said:

 

Are you sure it's a nice place if it has a mother-in-law house on the premises??? :lol:

Okay, so call it a guest cottage.

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On 4/13/2021 at 6:27 PM, Sixgun Sheridan said:

Weather-wise western WA state is exactly what you want. Mild summers and winters, rarely ever below 30 or above 90. Of course it rains a lot, but you quickly get used to it.


5 years in Oregon. Each winter wetter than the weather before. F’ing Depressing! Pretty sure I would be in prison now if I would have had to spend one more dark, dreary, wet, cold winter there. 


But hey, that’s just me...

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My first 30 years were in Iowa and Illinois and moved to AZ in '85. Worked in the PHX metro area until retirement and moved south for better weather and fewer  people. I don't know how I did it as a welder/fabricator in Phoenix (survived 122 degree day), but I don't like the heat the older I get. With elevation, it's just right for me. Tombstone is 16 miles away and we shoot year round.

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12 hours ago, Barry Sloe said:

Good luck finding the perfect weather fit.  Honestly.

 

I grew up in Iowa (cold & snow), with the Navy I was in San Diego (nice weather, lousy politics), Illinois (more snow), Connecticut (mild winters, nothing to do in winter), Hawaii (no snow, but intense sun), and retired in Arizona (minimal snow, but hot in summer.

 

If I ever win the Lottery I will keep my home here in Arizona for the winters and find something to the north for during the summer months.  But, that is not likely to happen.

 

Take care,

BS

I know allot of people that do the snow bird thing with a summer house up north and a winter home in the south.

One of my friends parents used to hook up a travel trailer and migrate around the the south for 3 months every year 

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On 4/14/2021 at 10:35 AM, ShadowCatcher said:

It rains [in WA], but not more than NY (39 inches per annum), just spread out over more drizzle and less downpour!

 

That's one of the most ironic facts I ever read. NY and Forida both get as much (or more) rain than western WA, but it's usually all at once with lots of sun in between. WA on the other hand gets steady drizzle all year long and is perpetually under cloud cover.

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On 4/14/2021 at 6:22 PM, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said:

Dear Ma'am,

                    Just in case you start thinking about ..........

 

 

 

No just no. This from someone that was born and raised in sw LA.

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Lots to consider, when wanting to move.

 

A big one is taxes. Only seven states have no state income taxes. Only five states have no sales taxes. All states have property taxes.

Some states are better for retired folks, on a fixed income, and some are just plain awful.  

 

You move too far north, you get snow. 

You stay too far south, you get heat. 

Some states have tornado seasons. 

Some states have wild fires, every year.

Some have earthquakes, or that potential.

Some are liberal/socialist, and are anti 2nd Amendment, thus anti-freedom. 

Some have more rules than a nun in a convent.

Some have high humidity, some low...which affects how the heat will get to you.

Some are densely populated...some, not so much. 

Some have a cost of living that would make a buzzard throw up.

Some have a state, and local, government, that want to run your life from cradle to grave.    

 

One just has to figure out what they can stand, and what they can live with, because, unfortunately, there really just ain't no Mayberry.

We all have to put up with, and endure, some hardships, weather-wise, and other-wise.

No state has the perfect weather scenario, year around...or ideal living conditions. Like humanity itself, it is all flawed.

 

Do some research, and then make a list of pros, and cons, and then from what is left, of the lessor of the evils, make a decision. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 4/14/2021 at 10:05 AM, Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 said:

Hi Whisky,

 

I love the weather where we live (hills W. of Sacramento in Amador County). Unfortunately, it is in CA. The problems with our government are well known. At our ages, we need to be closer to a GOOD hospital. I've been looking for a place to move for about a year. Medical care is the primary reason we are considering moving.

 

If anyone could tell us where there are no tornadoes, hurricanes, winds, and humidity that has hospitals near; we would move there.

 

I hope your thread turns up something to your or our liking.

 

:wub:

 

Allie

come to the SF bay area  I have hospital one mile away  Kaiser is 3 miles away The best is less than an hour away 

in 63 years I remember 10 day of over 100 

 as far as gun laws we are insane ... no jail time for having a stolen gun 

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On 4/16/2021 at 6:45 PM, Dirty Dog Doug said:

come to the SF bay area  I have hospital one mile away  Kaiser is 3 miles away The best is less than an hour away 

in 63 years I remember 10 day of over 100 

 as far as gun laws we are insane ... no jail time for having a stolen gun 

I lived in the East Bay for 66 years except for the 30 mo's I was property of Uncle Sam.  I liked the place until the 1990's.  By then the politics & traffic became unbearable.   By the 90's I knew we'd move to the east side of the northern Sierras in NV.  The area along Hwy. 395 from just north of Reno through Gardnerville is high desert, 4500 ft elevation.  Not much snow in the winter, it melts quickly and the average summer temps in July & August are mid 90's with low humidity.  It is no hotter here than in east Contra Costa & Alameda counties where I lived for 38 years.   In the shade 100F at 20% humidity is pleasant.  I have always preferred hot & dry to cold <45F.  I don't spend a lot of time outside from mid November through mid March.

P.S. You could live in Lake Tahoe in Douglas or Washoe NV counties.  It is a very beautiful alpine environment.  Property is more expensive than on the east side of the mountains.  Also, except for community hospitals the well equipped & staffed hospitals are in Reno.  Not an issue except in December through February when it snows more frequently.

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One thing nobody has really mentioned is the cost of housing. 
 

Prescott Valley sounds great till you see the price of housing. 
 

North of 400K means having to work 2 more years just to offset the a higher mortgage. 

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oddly , this - "Southern Missouri/northern Arkansas has a good balance of seasons without a lot of snow, reasonable real estate prices and reasonable taxes" - is exactly what i would like to give a shot , its my ancestral roots in eurika springs , but i do understand all parts of the country have drawbacks and a few of them would never be acceptable to me - ever ,

 

i will however travel to and visit them , i find out every day there are parts of this country i need to visit and see as well as those i know i gotta see and havent gotten to yet , i may have to fall back on the travel to get to some of the areas yall are suggesting , but im good with that for a bit yet 

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18 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

One thing nobody has really mentioned is the cost of housing. 
 

Prescott Valley sounds great till you see the price of housing. 
 

North of 400K means having to work 2 more years just to offset the a higher mortgage. 


Prescott AZ is our #1 choice for all the above reasons.
We remain in CA because I've looked at 200+ listings in Prescott... huge prices, and not what we want.
And most certainly not worth starting a $300k new mortgage at age 70.

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On 4/15/2021 at 6:23 PM, Waxahachie Kid #17017 L said:

Lots to consider, when wanting to move.

 

A big one is taxes. Only seven states have no state income taxes. Only five states have no sales taxes. All states have property taxes.

Some states are better for retired folks, on a fixed income, and some are just plain awful.  

 

You move too far north, you get snow. 

You stay too far south, you get heat. 

Some states have tornado seasons. 

Some states have wild fires, every year.

Some have earthquakes, or that potential.

Some are liberal/socialist, and are anti 2nd Amendment, thus anti-freedom. 

Some have more rules than a nun in a convent.

Some have high humidity, some low...which affects how the heat will get to you.

Some are densely populated...some, not so much. 

Some have a cost of living that would make a buzzard throw up.

Some have a state, and local, government, that want to run your life from cradle to grave.    

 

One just has to figure out what they can stand, and what they can live with, because, unfortunately, there really just ain't no Mayberry.

We all have to put up with, and endure, some hardships, weather-wise, and other-wise.

No state has the perfect weather scenario, year around...or ideal living conditions. Like humanity itself, it is all flawed.

 

Do some research, and then make a list of pros, and cons, and then from what is left, of the lessor of the evils, make a decision. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I Alaska, I had earthquake drills, risk from bears, moose, avalanches, blizzards, and -70 F jogs to school.

In Kenya, I had terrorist drills, Black Mamba's and Cobras in the yard, risk from drought, malaria, typhoid, AIDS, bandits, carjackers etc. 

In Florida, I had Hurricane issues, tornados, snakes, biting ants, bears, gaters, sink holes and spiders.

In Texas and Kansas, I had tornado drills, blizzards, black widow's, brown recluses, rattle snakes, floods

 

I loved each place in it's own way... Pretty happy where I am now, chances are good I'll move along eventually.

 

Earth is not going to last forever, I've got a much better place reserved for later on.

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On 4/15/2021 at 3:14 PM, Sixgun Sheridan said:

 

That's one of the most ironic facts I ever read. NY and Forida both get as much (or more) rain than western WA, but it's usually all at once with lots of sun in between. WA on the other hand gets steady drizzle all year long and is perpetually under cloud cover.

 

Tropical storms and hurricanes that can dump incredible amounts of rain over a period of 12 hours, I've seen 12" in 12 hours. The most rainfall that I've seen in the shortest time was 6.5" in 1 hour (last year) and 8.25" in 1.5 hours (about 30 years ago). This was measured at my residence with a rain gauge. Both times, they were from slow moving summer time thunderstorms moving from the east to the west. The Tampa bay area is ranked as the "Lightning strike capital of the US" and is 2nd in the world. I can deal with that, year long drizzle...no thanks.

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