Kirk James 662 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 What ever happened to the good old days where the wire equaled a segment from the Jerry Springer Show? Rank points vs total time, TO's responsibility to catch a falling rifle, belly button shotgun belt rule, wimpy loads for world class shooters, Rattle Snake Wrangler rule etc...... Has this pandemic soften us up? What was your favorite SASS drama? Link to post Share on other sites
evil dogooder 928 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 My favorite... due to the inadequacy of talent in spotters, gf are not allowed to shoot all out Link to post Share on other sites
Oddnews SASS# 24779 33 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Fear of censorship. Link to post Share on other sites
Colorado Coffinmaker 3,348 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 There never were "Good Old Days." We are now "Good Old Shooters." Link to post Share on other sites
Dusty Devil Dale 564 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 OK, you hooked me. What's the Rattlesnake Wrangler thing about? Link to post Share on other sites
Goody, SASS #26190 1,130 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Just about anything the Phantom chimed in on. Oh, and Tombstone Saddlery. Link to post Share on other sites
Nichols Creek, SASS #77627 38 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Just now, Dusty Devil Dale said: OK, you hooked me. What's the Rattlesnake Wrangler thing about? If a buckaroo thinks they might have a chance at winning the overall at state or above, that buckaroo must declare thier intentions prior to the beginning of the match, and all shotgun targets must go down. Basically the buckaroo is shooting as a junior against other buckaroos Link to post Share on other sites
July Smith 362 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 If a pattern calls for "no double taps" triple and quad taps are okay. Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Bull 1,943 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 There should be a category for 100% bone stock guns. You whippersnappers with your race guns are ruining the sport. Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Bull 1,943 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Those targets are ridiculous. If I lean forward far enough I can touch them. What ever happened to actual marksmanship? This is supposed to be a test of skill, not just how fast you can make your guns go bang. Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Bull 1,943 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 If all you're going to wear is Wranglers and a shirt, why even bother? You're ruining the sport for the rest of us. Link to post Share on other sites
Cypress Sun 2,619 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 49 minutes ago, Dusty Devil Dale said: OK, you hooked me. What's the Rattlesnake Wrangler thing about? It concerns a certain cowboy that takes pictures of himself holding snakes in a position that makes the snake seem larger and longer. Wait, that's not it. It concerns a buckaroo (at the time) who played within the rules, won his category and overall at a match. I wasn't there but I guess that he missed a shotgun target, didn't make it up and........so it goes. I miss the Bailey Quarters or Jennifer days. Bailey all the way without a doubt. Link to post Share on other sites
Palouse 57 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Can't we all just get along? Link to post Share on other sites
Castalia,SASS#18915 83 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Lest we forget! J. P. Lower, SASS#18563's article in the December 2010 Cowboy Chronicle "Real Cowboys Shoot Duelist". The fallout was HUGE. A lot has happened in just 10 years. Please don't shoot the messager. Posted as an exaggeration for clarification!! Maybe the old days were not so "good". REAL COWBOYS SHOOT DUELIST! By J. P. Lower, SASS #18563 Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, the souped up single action spoke as the target clanged its answer. The onlookers admired the speed with which the shooter thumbed back the hammer and fired accurately at each plate. Then his shotgun swung into action, accurate but festooned with slick tricks to give an advantage. The rifle wasn’t any different either. Why, I never saw so much flash coming off the gun instead of from the muzzle! Sure could have used these during the Ute wars, that’s sure, but we didn’t have ‘em like that in old Colorado, did we? I don’t recollect anyone ever coming to me and asking for a slicked up action or short stroke conversions. And that two handed hold … what limp wrist New York greenhorn brought this to the West? I took his Colt and was shocked by the sissy light hammer pull. Hickok would have thrown it into Cherry Creek Last I checked, this started as a man’s sport, with the women and children welcome if they could handle the equipment. Oh, I know their springs and things had to be lightened, but you’d expect this with women and children, not men. Good gosh, some of these guns have been so afflicted they border on being unsafe to use! I see no excuse for a man to dress like a tough hombre and shoot a sissified firearm. I’ve said in the past, the gun manufacturers used heavy springs for a reason, principally safety and surety of fire. Yes, I know the coil springs that these new fangeled gunsmiths are using are strong and reliable, but chopping up a good Colt or Winchester to use ‘em just don’t make a heck of a lot of sense! Everybody says they need an edge in this here Cowboy Action Shooting™, but what’s wrong with using the guns with stock parts and learning to use them “as is” to build an edge? Strengthen your thumbs, your wrists and arms with practice, by gum, instead of tricks. I will wager those who have these slick sissy guns can’t hold a candle to the cowboy shooters who shoot as we did in old Denver. Duelist I think you call it today. That’s where you use one hand to shoot your Colt, if I’m not mistaken, and your lever action rifle goes CHUNK-CHUNK instead of KISS-KISS when you lever a round. Say, that reminds me of my first cowboy shoot ever some 15 years back. Lassiter was in attendance, and we all know and respect this man for his ability and style, and advocacy of the Cowboy Action hobby. A friendlier, more helpful gentleman would be hard to find. I had never seen him shoot, and I followed his stages all day. I saw that, at the time, he was using a Colt with a lightened action and a two handed hold, gunfighter I think you call it. He also had a shotgun that he loaded from the side while it was still at his shoulder, quite a sight to see indeed. I was using a side-byside hammer gun. We both had our share of misses that day, but when the tally was read off that afternoon, he had only outshot me by seven seconds! I knew those seconds had been eaten up by my double shotgun fumbling, but my point here is that I had never done this before, and I was using stock, original antique guns with factory springs, and I still nearly matched him. All my previous shooting for years had been with unaltered Colts and Winchesters. I feel this illustrates clearly all the light springs and overpolished parts in the world still can’t help if you don’t know your firearms and how to shoot them. And, I also feel I am not the only person who has seen the sport degenerate into, what’s that called again, oh yes, Cowboy IPSIC. Furthermore, we issue a challenge to those sissy gun shooters: Meet us anytime, anywhere, using stock firearms, and we’ll see who has the “edge!” Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Bull 1,943 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, Castalia,SASS#18915 said: REAL COWBOYS SHOOT DUELIST! Darn right!!! Link to post Share on other sites
T-Square 118 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Best drama .....? When a hot casing goes down her blouse !? Does the TO help retrieve the hot brass ?? even saw a shotgun shell go down once..... (Happy eyes emoji) Link to post Share on other sites
The Original Lumpy Gritz 7,201 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Shooting Bull said: If all you're going to wear is Wranglers and a shirt, why even bother? You're ruining the sport for the rest of us. 2 hours ago, Shooting Bull said: There should be a category for 100% bone stock guns. You whippersnappers with your race guns are ruining the sport. 2 hours ago, Shooting Bull said: Those targets are ridiculous. If I lean forward far enough I can touch them. What ever happened to actual marksmanship? This is supposed to be a test of skill, not just how fast you can make your guns go bang. How much caffeine did you have today? OLG Link to post Share on other sites
Shooting Bull 1,943 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: How much caffeine did you have today? OLG All of it Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom, SASS #54973 4,685 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Everything is stoopid ... Link to post Share on other sites
Anvil Al #59168 309 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Shooting Bull said: If all you're going to wear is Wranglers and a shirt, why even bother? You're ruining the sport for the rest of us. I use to never wear Wranglers at a match. Then it turned into a thing. So now that is all I wear. Link to post Share on other sites
Major BS Walker Regulator 602 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 We have enough category's, we shouldn't add Frontier Cartridge Gunfighter. Link to post Share on other sites
Tyrel Cody 5,121 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 We don't have enough Categories, we should add Classic Cowboy Gunfighter and Frontier Cartridge Classic Cowboy Gunfighter and Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,200 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Anvil Al #59168 said: I use to never wear Wranglers at a match. Then it turned into a thing. So now that is all I wear. Me too, I never liked the way the "Cowboy pants" fit. Jeans are so comfortable. I still wear a vest, boots and cowboy shirts. and oh a GOOD HAT, gotta have a good hat! Link to post Share on other sites
Snakebite 1,368 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Everything is stoopid ... Well I agree with that. You ask What ever happened.... I don't think that wire debates or opinions have as much impact as they once did. Seems like some things have just followed the wind. Snakebite Link to post Share on other sites
MizPete 1,258 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 8 hours ago, evil dogooder said: due to the inadequacy of talent in spotters, gf are not allowed to shoot all out What about them that are shooting GF because it's hard to spot - apologies to my GF friends but you know it happens. Link to post Share on other sites
Maddog McCoy SASS #5672 244 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Somebody has too much time on there hands. Stirring the Pot. Beating a dead horse. I thought it was nice not to see all of that on the wire. Bring Back Modern Category !!!!!!! Forget Ruger Blackhawks, I shoot Colt New Frontiers with adjustable signs Real Cowboys shoot Colts Link to post Share on other sites
Kirk James 662 Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 Still trying to decide whether my jeans are designer or not. Once wore my shotgun belt above my belly button to see if there was an advantage. Couldn't tell if I had a foot behind the table. Link to post Share on other sites
evil dogooder 928 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 8 hours ago, MizPete said: What about them that are shooting GF because it's hard to spot - apologies to my GF friends but you know it happens. It's the misbelief that this sport is about being fair/ equal to all. A top two handed shooter shoots fast and you'll hear people saying they couldn't keep up. But what's the call? Clean. Benefit of doubt. Assumption that they did it right. A gf shoots even moderately fast and it's assumed we did it wrong. Total double standard. Then you hear the argument that because we get to have two guns out its fair to have more restrictions. Which is pure b.s. we are already doing something that is much harder which is restricting enough as it is. Link to post Share on other sites
Warden Callaway 4,475 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 minute ago, evil dogooder said: It's the bs that this sport is about being fair/ equal to all. A top two handed shooter shoots fast and you'll hear people saying they couldn't keep up. But what's the call? Clean. Benefit of doubt. Assumption that they did it right. A gf shoots even moderately fast and it's assumed we did it wrong. Total double standard. Then you hear the argument that because we get to have two guns out its fair to have more restrictions. Which is pure b.s. we ate already doing something that is much harder which is restricting enough as it is. Then add black powder smoke. Link to post Share on other sites
stef75 9 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 15 hours ago, Shooting Bull said: There should be a category for 100% bone stock guns. You whippersnappers with your race guns are ruining the sport. 14 hours ago, Shooting Bull said: Those targets are ridiculous. If I lean forward far enough I can touch them. What ever happened to actual marksmanship? This is supposed to be a test of skill, not just how fast you can make your guns go bang. I'm nothing in the sport but I tend to agree. Its one of the reasons I prefer to do my own skills and comps with friends. The cat sneeze level loads and short stroke kits in particular dont make any sense to me. Then again I also like sword fencing but hate the way olympic fencers now whip each other with things that more resemble car antennas. For some sword types they dont even use handles anymore, the swords have little pistol grips so you can flick them faster. Link to post Share on other sites
Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 184 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 I'm yer huckleberry. All targets should be square or circles. Oddball shapes make me miss. Link to post Share on other sites
Go West 294 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 In the good old days, we used to throw dynamite or toss a lariat on a fence post or other fun things. Now all we do is shoot close and fast (and I'm not that fast). What happened to the reloads and bonus targets that were at the back of the berm? What happened to the 60 second average stage times? Now we shoot for a total time of less than 2 minutes and it takes half the day to do it. I want to come and shoot and not do any work. It's the entitlement age isn't it? What's the best _____________? Link to post Share on other sites
Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 184 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Go West said: I want to come and shoot and not do any work. It's the entitlement age isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites
Goody, SASS #26190 1,130 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 58 minutes ago, stef75 said: cat sneeze level loads Is this what happens when a mouse farts? What the real burning question is, Whatever happened to Randolph ScottRidin' the range aloneWhatever happened to Gene and TexAnd Roy and Rex, the Durango Kid? Link to post Share on other sites
The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 806 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Squares are better than Diamonds Link to post Share on other sites
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