Snakebite

The rule was never intended to disallow paper cartridges due to the type paper used.

I get tired of the word tactical used to market everything from A-Z

Yeah, my old clunkers don't merit such. They've only won 15 regional, 15 state and three national titles with the stock pins. Like I said, a hog.

IMO this is the most over rated mod available out there. It's like putting a pearl necklace on a hog. Just use a nail and plenty of grease.

Well, I thought I was done with this post, but Just one further comment. Regards to no Transfer Bar on a Ruger. I've only told this story to a few folks. It happen a LONG time ago. I stopped working on other folks guns after a Lawsuit. I guy got a Ruger from me that did not have a transfer bar in it. It was NOT a gun that I had taken the transfer bar out of.... it was an original that had never seen a transfer bar. (Thank God) Any how, he loaded it with 6 rounds and while stepping up into his van the gun fell and hit on the hammer, it fired a bullet into his leg hitting the Femur. He died in the hospital. The insurance company went after the deep pockets...…. RUGER. Their investigator showed up at my place and scared the hell out of me. I thought for a while that I was going to end up in the middle of all this. At that point, I decided to stop working on guns for other folks. (yeah, every so often I end up helping someone out but I won't accept any pay, and won't admit it). If I were still working on guns there is no way in the world that I would remove ANY safety device from a gun belonging to ANYONE other than myself....., and I would NOT sell ANYONE a traceable gun that had a safety device removed. Bottom line is this... Now days you have better cover your @$$. If you do anything that can be traced back to you (a proved), then you had better do EVERYTHING right.

SMS... I took no offense, and meant none. I have great admiration for Tool & Die makers. They are skilled people, and must have a broad knowledge of things from metallurgy to machining. It provides an excellent background to venture into Gunsmithing. My professional background is in Electrical Engineering and I don't have the knowledge or experience doing many of those things. The vast majority of what I do is done with hand tools. I've been tearing apart motorcycles and cars since I was a youngster, and we learned to do a lot of things using what we had. But if I find that I can't get the job done with what I have, I take it to a Machinist friend of mine that has both the experience and the expertise to do what I want done. But for the most part there is very little that I do that I can not do using hand tools. I got started working on guns many years ago when I took one of my Colts apart. I was amazed at just how simple it was. Since I had it apart I just as well tune it up …. right? I had seen the ads from Eddie XXXXX and saw how much he got to tune up a Colt SAA. Well heck I knew that I wasn't the sharpest pencil in the box but this thing was so simple that I wasn't about to pay anyone that kind of money.... I'd just do it myself. It was a little over a year before I got that gun working properly again. It was so simple that I just didn't grasp the fact that each little simple thing had to be done EXACTLY right for this simple contraption to work properly. During that period, out of necessity, I learned how to recut sears and notches, replace cams and tune up those things that were so "Simple", and in the end I wondered how he could do it all at such a reasonable price. Now days there are any number of after market parts available. They are CNC made to be perfect and most folks with a little ability can drop them in and with just a little fine tuning they work pretty well. Some folks have made a business out of replacing parts. That doesn't make them a Gunsmith, but some of them are pretty darned good at replacing those parts and making the guns work well. Now, what's this about Cold Bluing a gun.... Why heck..... I've painted guns and been pretty pleased with the results! Snakebite

Widder, you are a Brute!

Well I'm pretty sure that I am Hack, I've had little or no training in the gunsmithing field, just a pretty good mechanical aptitude. However, it doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to do the basic work on most of these guns used in CAS, and if you can read and follow good directions, most things are covered reasonably well either on the internet or in some of the publications. Besides all of that, I've screwed up enough guns over the past 50 yrs that I have a pretty good idea of what not to do. Snakebite

3 grains of any fast powder that you have will work for this game.

It depends upon what your definition the word "IS", is.

The founders described allowable ammunition in terms or caliber rather than making specific cartridge designations. This opened the door to just about any ammunition that meets diameter requirements (caliber). Snakebite

Try trimming the length of the brass. Move down a little at a time and see if it becomes a good fit. If so, you might need to polish the front end of the chamber. The FIRST thing I would do would be to get some good dies. Snakebite

Why don' you just use your gun? It has the shape that you want, EXACTLY! Just wrap it in cellophane kitchen wrap, wet the holsters and slam em in. Let them dry without adding any heat. Snakebite

As long as you know the basics I think that you ought to attend some of the Big matches. Big matches often have easier stages than small matches because they are trying to get more people through. New shooters often feel like Everyone is Watching them... but that is just not the case. When you get good at this game, that is when everyone is watching you. Snakebite

I'm not saying it's not legal... just asking. When I wrote and presented the Long Range rules for approval, I added a category to allow the MD the authority to include guns that did not otherwise meet the standards. The main thought was to allow things like the Martini action, which was certainly period correct, but it didn't have a external hammer, and was not an American design gun. I'm sure that this gun could easily be included in that category if otherwise not allowed. The Handi Rifle was based upon the 1871 H&R. That was the argument for acceptance, and it was approved as such... also, it helped that at the time, SASS was marketing and selling their SASS Buffalo Classic in 38-55. That was the reason that the .375 was accepted into the Buffalo shoot. We all know that the 38-55 was a target gun, not a Buffalo gun. I'm sure that the current ROC has indeed looked at this gun and must have approved it. I was just wondering what the basis was. Snakebite