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Dusty Devil Dale

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  1. Try this: Hold your arm straight, wrist straight and try to move your trigger finger without also causing a small amount of wrist flexure or rotation. That translates into muzzle motion. Unless you are very unique, you cannot quiet the index finger tendons through the wrist. That is why I like to slip hammer. My grip hand can remain entirely quiet and Master Grip solid, while the non grip hand does the hammer work. For me, It has little to do with speed and a lot to do with steadiness.
  2. Boars, sows and what else? To determine their gender, don't you need to ask how they identify today?
  3. Regarding the failure to eject problem, take a good look at the lower bolt tab. Its jobs are: 1. help support the bottom of a live round during transfer from the carrier to the chamber, and 2. to support the bottom of expended cases so that they cannot fall downward away from the (top) ejector hook. Often the lower tab gets broken or broomed to a steep downward taper that allows the case to slip off too easily. (a very slight down-burnishing of the tip is normal. The bolt should solidly grip a spent or live round between the tab and hook. ) The opposite can also occur, wherein the tab is too long for the ammunition being used, so it catches the rear of cases as they rise into clambering position in the carrier, causing a jamb. The solution to that jamb is shorter ammo COAL, by just a hundredth or two. 1873 bolts now come in different configurations. Older ones have solid tabs that can only be repaired by rebuilding with a TIG welder. Newer ones have lower tabs that are replaceable by driving out a 1/16" pin in the side of the bolt. My experience has been that the replacements are usually a drop-in part, requiring little fitting. But that is not usually the case for the top ejector hook. The tapering tail of the ejector, rearward of the installation pin, often needs to be fitted to adjust the up-down position of the hook. Before I would start replacing or changing parts, I would remove the lower tab (if it is removable) and the top ejector hook and thoroughly scrape/clean out the grooves they rest in. Built up crud under the shank of the hook causes the kind of weak ejection that you are describing. As a rule of thumb, always thoroughly clean any gun before endeavoring to change or repair anything.
  4. Widder is right about the cocking force and what I call briskness. If only light force is applied in cocking the hammer, then the second (lower) tooth on the pawl/hand may be filed too low to push the cylinder all the way to the locking notches. The positioning-cocking timing is fairly critical. A few questions: 1> Which side of the primer is being struck? Is the cylinder stopping too soon or too late? (after the cylinder rotation stops upon cocking, can you manually rotate it a little further, or does it skip to the next round?) 2> Is the bolt locking tab riding too high so that it is heavily burnishing or scoring the outside of the cylinder? And is the scoring roughness enough to rub and possibly impede smooth rotation? 3> When you remove the cylinder and insert the base pin into its center bore (out of the gun), is it a snug fit or can you visibly wiggle it side-to- side? 4> Is the pawl/hand in original condition or has it been modified? 5> Is the gun short stroked? If so, realize cocking the hammer has to do all the same jobs as on the stock gun, but in a shorter path, so physics tells us it will require added energy to cock the gun, for any given hammer spring tension. 6> Does your wife slip hammer with trigger held back? Does the gun malfunction if individually cocked and fired? (Suspect hammer being released too soon.) The gun should not come to battery, in full cock, before the cylinder is fully rotated into position and locked. If it does, and it is fired with the chamber & barrel misaligned, gun or shooter damage could result. You don't want the gun to cock prior to the chamber being aligned. With all of those ruled out, the fact that the gun works properly for a different shooter suggests your wife is short- cocking the gun. Try it yourself, cocking both rapidly and slowly, while watching what happens. Hope this helps.
  5. I had a bit of a semantics problem at first. To me the Shooters Handbook is a SASS Rules document. On bigger matches, I like the printed shooters "booklet". Not everyone, and particularly not people on the road, have easy access to a printer --or to the Internet. Publishing it on the web also leaves little choice about whether or not to release stage descriptions in advance. I also like to collect the booklets, just for the fun of looking at them months or years later.
  6. Good to know Ruger still backs their products. This was not my own gun, and it has been short-stroked and had trigger work done in the past, so my flexibility was pretty limited. But still good to know. Thx.
  7. Update: I tried something simple first. The cylinder center bore was 0.041" out of round over the stop recesses, so about half of that should be the expected maximum increase in gap distance over the bolt catch as the cylinder rotates. I machined 0.024" off of the top of bolt's lower arm, below the cylinder catch process (where the bolt contacts the frame, stopping the bolt's rise toward the cylinder.) That change did, in fact, allow the bolt catch to elevate by roughly the same amount. Yesterday, I tested by running 100 rounds through the pistol without any skips or jambs. It was a band aid over a bigger cylinder bore roundness problem, but a cheap band aid by comparison with replacement or performing major cylinder surgery.
  8. The firing pin is probably sticking in the primers. Primers may need to be seated more solidly. Primers might also be blowing back, if the hulls have seen a few firings.
  9. The stage instructions appear to be written to give leeway for unhit plates falling accidentally. It is essentially a plate count and round count stage. Regardless of suspicions, the shooter was clean. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. That's without even considering the likelihood of a separate target interference issue between the P and R target array.
  10. They fired ten rifle rounds. One of the targets was already down, so one round only had to go downrange. Instructions do not specify which one. Nine rounds hit targets and one went downrange. You cannot assign a penalty based on speculation as to what target was engaged/missed when there is no target sequence specified. The miss was just the downrange round. Shooter is CLEAN.
  11. Because no target order was specified, and one round contacted no target, you don't know which target the shooter was engaging. Shooter may have been "shooting where it was" for the fallen plate. Shooter could do that at any time in the rifle string. So it is conjecture to say shooter reengaged one missed rifle target.
  12. You don't know for sure which target was aimed at on the rifle miss. He could have fired that round at the already-down plate (shoot where it was).
  13. All bottles were down and no misses on the dump, so pistols were clean, per instruction. Rifle may have failed to engage the target that was previously knocked down. Instead shooter might have engaged a missed target a second time (engaged the wrong target). HOWEVER -- no rifle target order is instructed. You therefore cannot tell for sure which rifle target was being engaged by the miss, so it is possible that round was intended to engage the already-down target. Benefit to the shooter. All plates are down. Prescribed round count was fired. Instructions give no target order. I would call it clean.
  14. $1500 is a v. good price these days. My wife and I both shoot BSSs. We've put many hundreds of rounds downrange through them, with zero malfunctions or problems. They have been 100% dependable guns. I did cut her stock down, because she is 5'3" and I have to hang onto her if the wind blows, but the weight of 26" barrels has not been a problem for her. Like all guns, they do get regular and thorough care and maintenance.
  15. There is more to it than just projectile mass. The type and amount of powder is important to too. For .38 pistols many (I am one) use 105 gn and have no KD issues. My wife shoots .32 H&R mag. using 78gn and rarely, if ever, has a KD fail. Where the light bullet weights do become a problem at times is not with the knock-downs. Rather it is when spotters improperly use impact sound to call hits/misses, instead of actually seeing the impacts. The lighter mass bullets make much less impact ring on heavier static target plates. My wife has had that frustrating problem a number of times with the little 78gn bullets. But if the targets are properly adjusted (most are), the 125gn will knock them down just fine, as long as you meet the SASS Power Factor standards.
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