The Rainmaker, SASS #11631

Scarlett, you are such a sweetheart and a huge benefit to the SASS community and you deserve all the love and help our folks could give. I'm happy you did receive help at this challenging match. I did not attend this one, but I've been there before and Arizona can be difficult at times. Thanks to Tommy for keeping you on the straight and narrow (yeah, right). You guys are the best and I can't wait to see you again soon.

I think Creeker's got it right... almost. Shooter did shoot the first pistol correct; shot the SG incorrect (Procedural); shot the rifle correct; back to SG location and since he is clearly "gaming" the stage and has taken the P intentionally to gain an advantage, he should now stop at the SG location and yell "BANG" as loud as he can, to simulate the SG round he "gamed" out of the stage; then move to second pistol location and finish the last five rounds. If, for any reason, the "bang" is not loud enough or intentional enough, he would get an SOG AND a SDQ for gamey behavior. 😜 Procedural and much hazing by the posse... next!

Don't even know why you'd say that. Real classy. Both men wrote very informative firearm articles and books. If you have some personal issue, keep that to yourself. RIP to two very respected gun writers.

I try my best to learn from past failures and stages (or parts of stages) I have written in the past have faded into oblivion. I try my best to analyze how the different shooting styles will be affected by what I'm telling a shooter to do and take out, what I see as a hindrance to one style or another... usually. Just like this past weekend, I see how things are playing out and decide how I would change a stage or scrap it altogether. I will use split SG stages but rarely split pistol. Yes, GF can run double-duelist but I generally think people just don't like splitting pistols. I also try to not favor one SG type over another. I understand what the OP was going for with this stage, but I hope they have assessed everything and, if using it again, will make changes to avoid situations like this.

I understand the original pretext of this being an intentionally different and more difficult match, but this, boys and girls, is why we don't write stages like this...

You don't need a severe angle, just an angle. Some of ours are close to vertical and we don't have any problems. If you are using lead that mushrooms out and you have a little downward angle, you should be fine. For suppliers, MGM is one of the best. https://mgmtargets.com/?v=0b3b97fa6688 You want at least AR400 or better or you will be beating them up, especially with anything harder than cowboy lead.

Order of stage is rifle not last. Shooter (me) tries to outsmart himself and starts with SG on left firing position then goes to right firing position, knowing he can draw crossdraw pistol on the way. Shooter engages both pistols and picks up rifle (now last) and realizes immediately that he has engaged rifle last. Can shooter finish rifle and then go back to SG and engage one round to make rifle not last? SG targets are all down. I don't remember this being addressed previously.

And that's why we don't do split pistols... 😬 Yes, could be fun for one-handers but GF hate em!

The problem with buying 9mm on the cheap, is that they are FMJ bullets and you will only be able to shoot an all lead bullet for SASS. You will most likely want a rifle that shoots the same cartridge as your pistols and good luck finding a lever gun in 9mm.

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Don't ask me, I'm sellin' folks the wrong VW!

Um... what?

You want .38s. (.357) A nice pair of Colt clones from Pietta would be just what you need to get started. IMHO. https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1873-Great-Western-II-Revolvers-c64.htm https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/pistolero-357-38-sp-4-3-4-in.html

Cool. When I lived in Tucson, I'd go over to Woodworker's Source and get cut-off scraps in all kinds of cool woods. Have some Purple Heart grips I made up for my Rugers and some really cool (not available anymore) Madagascar Rosewood. Awesome stuff!

Rod Kibler in North Georgia; http://www.rodkiblersaddlery.com/ He does make SG loops on his belts but I use a cloth cavalry belt with loops that run all the way around and that's what I prefer. Bought that at the old Plainfield Raid in No Cal. LOVE my Kibler!