Subdeacon Joe 25,834 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 3 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Singin' Sue 71615 659 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Oh my word...can it get any worse? God created MAN...and seeing he needed a companion, created WOMAN from man's body (rib). There are only male and female. Even the ones born with both 'parts' are still one or the other! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Harley, #14153 2,956 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Folks, I have more experience in and around the LGBTQ community than probably anyone here in the Saloon. I can say with quite certainty that the referenced quotation was from someone with far more emotional challenges than simple gender identity. Please do not internalize it as being representative of the community as a whole. And please say a prayer for this person, that they would find peace. 6 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twelve mile REB 536 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 19 minutes ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: Folks, I have more experience in and around the LGBTQ community than probably anyone here in the Saloon. I can say with quite certainty that the referenced quotation was from someone with far more emotional challenges than simple gender identity. Please do not internalize it as being representative of the community as a whole. And please say a prayer for this person, that they would find peace. Great response Charlie. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Subdeacon Joe 25,834 Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 28 minutes ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: Folks, I have more experience in and around the LGBTQ community than probably anyone here in the Saloon. I can say with quite certainty that the referenced quotation was from someone with far more emotional challenges than simple gender identity. Please do not internalize it as being representative of the community as a whole. And please say a prayer for this person, that they would find peace. Amen to that. Unfortunately I have heard people here in Sonoma County spouting drek about 75 percent as bad as that. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joke 'um 1,013 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Nut jobs is nut jobs. If you say so, your life must be destroyed. All perfectly normal, doncha know? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Singin' Sue 71615 659 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: Folks, I have more experience in and around the LGBTQ community than probably anyone here in the Saloon. I can say with quite certainty that the referenced quotation was from someone with far more emotional challenges than simple gender identity. Please do not internalize it as being representative of the community as a whole. And please say a prayer for this person, that they would find peace. We also have people in our lives... I just think the extreme folk like the above are really getting WAY extreme, no matter the cause. Yes, I believe we need to be praying for ALL. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pat Riot, SASS #13748 22,352 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 It reads like “hate speech”. Change a couple of the recurring words and you have racism, anti-semitism, etc. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sassnetguy50 310 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: Folks, I have more experience in and around the LGBTQ community than probably anyone here in the Saloon. I can say with quite certainty that the referenced quotation was from someone with far more emotional challenges than simple gender identity. Please do not internalize it as being representative of the community as a whole. And please say a prayer for this person, that they would find peace. What does the Q stand for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey Business 1,121 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 So I should feel bad about being ok with my gender, something which I had no control over. Eve needs counseling, not joking. Hopefully it will help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yul Lose 6,419 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 This stuff is out of control. I lost count of the number of times I’ve held a door for a woman or suggested she go first and was told that they could open their own door and didn’t need help, etc.. that I’m hesitant to do it anymore. 2 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpo 6,626 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 16 minutes ago, sassnetguy50 said: What does the Q stand for? Queer. it is apparently all right to refer to homosexuals as queer again, because they now refer to themselves as queer. It used to just be the parades - "we're here, we're queer, we're here we're queer get over it". But now it is apparently an acceptable thing, anytime every time all the time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yul Lose 6,419 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 11 minutes ago, Alpo said: Queer. it is apparently all right to refer to homosexuals as queer again, because they now refer to themselves as queer. It used to just be the parades - "we're here, we're queer, we're here we're queer get over it". But now it is apparently an acceptable thing, anytime every time all the time. Wrong. I’ve been told by a local leader of the group that the “Q” stands for questioning, they don’t know what they are yet. 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 7,031 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 10 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: Wrong. I’ve been told by a local leader of the group that the “Q” stands for questioning, they don’t know what they are yet. Others who are part of that group say queer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 886 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Everybody now has a keyboard and a portal to the internet. Therefore anybody of hundreds of millions can try to propagate their aberrant thoughts. Then somebody takes them seriously, if only to deplore them, with the result that the nonsense gets propagated to innumerable places, including websites like this. Which is what they are looking for in the first place. The best response is to never pass this stuff along in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L 780 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 4 hours ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: Oh my word...can it get any worse? God created MAN...and seeing he needed a companion, created WOMAN from man's body (rib). There are only male and female. Even the ones born with both 'parts' are still one or the other! Vive la difference!!!!!! You ladies are all beyond awesome...on all levels. Even the Bible says if husbands don't honor and respect their wives, their prayers will be ignored. By golly, if I was a married combat Infantryman, or Marine, I would not want my prayers to be ignored, for sure!!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chili Ron 938 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Howdy, Q branch. the guys who built 007 his aston martin db5. Best CR 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yul Lose 6,419 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 9 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: Others who are part of that group say queer Not around here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 7,031 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 36 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: Not around here. You are in a q.... ahhh, weird, section of the country. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Singin' Sue 71615 659 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 9 hours ago, Waxahachie Kid #17017 L said: Vive la difference!!!!!! You ladies are all beyond awesome...on all levels. Even the Bible says if husbands don't honor and respect their wives, their prayers will be ignored. By golly, if I was a married combat Infantryman, or Marine, I would not want my prayers to be ignored, for sure!!! I married a Recon Marine....and he follows the above. But I must follow the direction women were given. (Some forget we WERE given direction) Of course, him being Recon, nothing gets by him!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smoken D 2,052 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Had to google Cis And also found this How many genders are there 2020? However, gender isn't about someone's anatomy, it is about who they know them self to be. There are many different gender identities, including male, female, transgender, gender neutral, non-binary, agender, pangender, genderqueer, two-spirit, third gender, and all, none or a combination of these. Like I said before, out here in the country when something is born we lift it up and say, boy or girl. That's the end of that. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Utah Bob #35998 15,860 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 12 hours ago, Yul Lose said: Wrong. I’ve been told by a local leader of the group that the “Q” stands for questioning, they don’t know what they are yet. I have never heard that but apparently both terms are used. https://ok2bme.ca/resources/kids-teens/what-does-lgbtq-mean/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 3,325 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 After reading part of that opening statement, I didn't understand most of the words, but it did bring to mind The Tower of Bable. Now I am wondering how my wife and I managed to get through 62 years of marriage as just a man and a woman. I kinda like that myself, and I am certain my wife does too. The girls are grown and have their lives to live, and if I wasn't around she would have no one to correct or direct. She is a delight and we have fun in our own way. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watab kid 1,055 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 all this is way to confusing for me to waste time even trying to comprehend , i understand why they are confused - they are wasting the time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey Business 1,121 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Chromosomes don't lie. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ozark Huckleberry 879 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 It's standard 'through-the-looking-glass' up-is-down-and-down-is-up psuedo-psycho-socio-science-y claim to legitimacy. In a nutshell, the blah-blah is saying that someone who was born a woman and lives as a woman is only conforming to society and has done nothing to earn the title of 'woman'. Therefore she has less right to claim to be a woman than someone who was born a man but chooses to live as a woman. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. James H. Callahan 1,570 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 16 hours ago, watab kid said: all this is way to confusing for me to waste time even trying to comprehend , i understand why they are confused - they are wasting the time I agree. Sounds like 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Imis Twohofon,SASS # 46646 2,008 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Oh,well... Imis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 2,745 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 hours ago, Capt. James H. Callahan said: I agree. Sounds like ...................... is that male or female waste ? ......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Badlands Bob #61228 1,883 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/27/2021 at 10:56 AM, Smoken D said: Had to google Cis And also found this How many genders are there 2020? However, gender isn't about someone's anatomy, it is about who they know them self to be. There are many different gender identities, including male, female, transgender, gender neutral, non-binary, agender, pangender, genderqueer, two-spirit, third gender, and all, none or a combination of these. So it's sort of like SASS catagories. They keep inventing news ones so everybody can play how they want. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 3,325 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/26/2021 at 8:32 PM, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said: Everybody now has a keyboard and a portal to the internet. Therefore anybody of hundreds of millions can try to propagate their aberrant thoughts. Then somebody takes them seriously, if only to deplore them, with the result that the nonsense gets propagated to innumerable places, including websites like this. Which is what they are looking for in the first place. The best response is to never pass this stuff along in the first place. I wish you luck on that Red. Don't believe it will happen but you are correct. Do't pass it along. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Harley, #14153 2,956 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 47 minutes ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said: So it's sort of like SASS catagories. They keep inventing news ones so everybody can play how they want. As humorous as your response is, I believe you’re actually quite right. One of my best friends, a comfortably open middle-aged gay man, gets irritated at what he calls the “newly queer” who spend an inordinate amount of time inventing subsets of sexuality and creating labels for them. This man is a retired Navy chief who came to terms with his sexuality before Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. He and his partner, now husband, could have been court martialed at the time. He says the newly queer are working too hard to create their own versions of challenges the gay community faced 30 years ago. He’s wants them to just be happy for who and where they are. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. James H. Callahan 1,570 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: ...................... is that male or female waste ? ......... Just for the sake of argument we'll say it came out of a BULL JHC 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme 1,154 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 1/26/2021 at 8:22 PM, Subdeacon Joe said: What language is this manifesto written in ? Seriously, I don't understand a word of it......I want to display some empathy. But as of now, and with my current level of understanding, I may offend the writer....... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raylan 6,308 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 It's part of the language of the left. Identity politics. And if you don't understand it, you need to, or you will be an unarmed victim of it. It's a direct assault on the concept of individual rights as it assigns rights and privilege to victim groups over the so called victimizer groups. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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