Singin' Sue 71615 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Oh my word...can it get any worse? God created MAN...and seeing he needed a companion, created WOMAN from man's body (rib). There are only male and female. Even the ones born with both 'parts' are still one or the other!
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 Folks, I have more experience in and around the LGBTQ community than probably anyone here in the Saloon. I can say with quite certainty that the referenced quotation was from someone with far more emotional challenges than simple gender identity. Please do not internalize it as being representative of the community as a whole. And please say a prayer for this person, that they would find peace.
twelve mile REB Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: Folks, I have more experience in and around the LGBTQ community than probably anyone here in the Saloon. I can say with quite certainty that the referenced quotation was from someone with far more emotional challenges than simple gender identity. Please do not internalize it as being representative of the community as a whole. And please say a prayer for this person, that they would find peace. Great response Charlie.
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 27, 2021 Author Posted January 27, 2021 28 minutes ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: Folks, I have more experience in and around the LGBTQ community than probably anyone here in the Saloon. I can say with quite certainty that the referenced quotation was from someone with far more emotional challenges than simple gender identity. Please do not internalize it as being representative of the community as a whole. And please say a prayer for this person, that they would find peace. Amen to that. Unfortunately I have heard people here in Sonoma County spouting drek about 75 percent as bad as that.
Joke 'um Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 Nut jobs is nut jobs. If you say so, your life must be destroyed. All perfectly normal, doncha know?
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: Folks, I have more experience in and around the LGBTQ community than probably anyone here in the Saloon. I can say with quite certainty that the referenced quotation was from someone with far more emotional challenges than simple gender identity. Please do not internalize it as being representative of the community as a whole. And please say a prayer for this person, that they would find peace. We also have people in our lives... I just think the extreme folk like the above are really getting WAY extreme, no matter the cause. Yes, I believe we need to be praying for ALL.
Pat Riot Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 It reads like “hate speech”. Change a couple of the recurring words and you have racism, anti-semitism, etc.
sassnetguy50 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: Folks, I have more experience in and around the LGBTQ community than probably anyone here in the Saloon. I can say with quite certainty that the referenced quotation was from someone with far more emotional challenges than simple gender identity. Please do not internalize it as being representative of the community as a whole. And please say a prayer for this person, that they would find peace. What does the Q stand for?
Whiskey Business Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 So I should feel bad about being ok with my gender, something which I had no control over. Eve needs counseling, not joking. Hopefully it will help.
Yul Lose Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 This stuff is out of control. I lost count of the number of times I’ve held a door for a woman or suggested she go first and was told that they could open their own door and didn’t need help, etc.. that I’m hesitant to do it anymore.
Alpo Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, sassnetguy50 said: What does the Q stand for? Queer. it is apparently all right to refer to homosexuals as queer again, because they now refer to themselves as queer. It used to just be the parades - "we're here, we're queer, we're here we're queer get over it". But now it is apparently an acceptable thing, anytime every time all the time.
Yul Lose Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Alpo said: Queer. it is apparently all right to refer to homosexuals as queer again, because they now refer to themselves as queer. It used to just be the parades - "we're here, we're queer, we're here we're queer get over it". But now it is apparently an acceptable thing, anytime every time all the time. Wrong. I’ve been told by a local leader of the group that the “Q” stands for questioning, they don’t know what they are yet.
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: Wrong. I’ve been told by a local leader of the group that the “Q” stands for questioning, they don’t know what they are yet. Others who are part of that group say queer
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 Everybody now has a keyboard and a portal to the internet. Therefore anybody of hundreds of millions can try to propagate their aberrant thoughts. Then somebody takes them seriously, if only to deplore them, with the result that the nonsense gets propagated to innumerable places, including websites like this. Which is what they are looking for in the first place. The best response is to never pass this stuff along in the first place.
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 4 hours ago, Singin' Sue 71615 said: Oh my word...can it get any worse? God created MAN...and seeing he needed a companion, created WOMAN from man's body (rib). There are only male and female. Even the ones born with both 'parts' are still one or the other! Vive la difference!!!!!! You ladies are all beyond awesome...on all levels. Even the Bible says if husbands don't honor and respect their wives, their prayers will be ignored. By golly, if I was a married combat Infantryman, or Marine, I would not want my prayers to be ignored, for sure!!!
Chili Ron Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 Howdy, Q branch. the guys who built 007 his aston martin db5. Best CR
Yul Lose Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 9 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: Others who are part of that group say queer Not around here.
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 36 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: Not around here. You are in a q.... ahhh, weird, section of the country.
Singin' Sue 71615 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 9 hours ago, Waxahachie Kid #17017 L said: Vive la difference!!!!!! You ladies are all beyond awesome...on all levels. Even the Bible says if husbands don't honor and respect their wives, their prayers will be ignored. By golly, if I was a married combat Infantryman, or Marine, I would not want my prayers to be ignored, for sure!!! I married a Recon Marine....and he follows the above. But I must follow the direction women were given. (Some forget we WERE given direction) Of course, him being Recon, nothing gets by him!!!
Smoken D Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 Had to google Cis And also found this How many genders are there 2020? However, gender isn't about someone's anatomy, it is about who they know them self to be. There are many different gender identities, including male, female, transgender, gender neutral, non-binary, agender, pangender, genderqueer, two-spirit, third gender, and all, none or a combination of these. Like I said before, out here in the country when something is born we lift it up and say, boy or girl. That's the end of that.
Utah Bob #35998 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 12 hours ago, Yul Lose said: Wrong. I’ve been told by a local leader of the group that the “Q” stands for questioning, they don’t know what they are yet. I have never heard that but apparently both terms are used. https://ok2bme.ca/resources/kids-teens/what-does-lgbtq-mean/
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 After reading part of that opening statement, I didn't understand most of the words, but it did bring to mind The Tower of Bable. Now I am wondering how my wife and I managed to get through 62 years of marriage as just a man and a woman. I kinda like that myself, and I am certain my wife does too. The girls are grown and have their lives to live, and if I wasn't around she would have no one to correct or direct. She is a delight and we have fun in our own way.
watab kid Posted January 27, 2021 Posted January 27, 2021 all this is way to confusing for me to waste time even trying to comprehend , i understand why they are confused - they are wasting the time
Ozark Huckleberry Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 It's standard 'through-the-looking-glass' up-is-down-and-down-is-up psuedo-psycho-socio-science-y claim to legitimacy. In a nutshell, the blah-blah is saying that someone who was born a woman and lives as a woman is only conforming to society and has done nothing to earn the title of 'woman'. Therefore she has less right to claim to be a woman than someone who was born a man but chooses to live as a woman.
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 16 hours ago, watab kid said: all this is way to confusing for me to waste time even trying to comprehend , i understand why they are confused - they are wasting the time I agree. Sounds like
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Capt. James H. Callahan said: I agree. Sounds like ...................... is that male or female waste ? .........
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 On 1/27/2021 at 10:56 AM, Smoken D said: Had to google Cis And also found this How many genders are there 2020? However, gender isn't about someone's anatomy, it is about who they know them self to be. There are many different gender identities, including male, female, transgender, gender neutral, non-binary, agender, pangender, genderqueer, two-spirit, third gender, and all, none or a combination of these. So it's sort of like SASS catagories. They keep inventing news ones so everybody can play how they want.
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 8:32 PM, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said: Everybody now has a keyboard and a portal to the internet. Therefore anybody of hundreds of millions can try to propagate their aberrant thoughts. Then somebody takes them seriously, if only to deplore them, with the result that the nonsense gets propagated to innumerable places, including websites like this. Which is what they are looking for in the first place. The best response is to never pass this stuff along in the first place. I wish you luck on that Red. Don't believe it will happen but you are correct. Do't pass it along.
Charlie Harley, #14153 Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said: So it's sort of like SASS catagories. They keep inventing news ones so everybody can play how they want. As humorous as your response is, I believe you’re actually quite right. One of my best friends, a comfortably open middle-aged gay man, gets irritated at what he calls the “newly queer” who spend an inordinate amount of time inventing subsets of sexuality and creating labels for them. This man is a retired Navy chief who came to terms with his sexuality before Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. He and his partner, now husband, could have been court martialed at the time. He says the newly queer are working too hard to create their own versions of challenges the gay community faced 30 years ago. He’s wants them to just be happy for who and where they are.
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted January 28, 2021 Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said: ...................... is that male or female waste ? ......... Just for the sake of argument we'll say it came out of a BULL JHC
Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme Posted January 29, 2021 Posted January 29, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 8:22 PM, Subdeacon Joe said: What language is this manifesto written in ? Seriously, I don't understand a word of it......I want to display some empathy. But as of now, and with my current level of understanding, I may offend the writer.......
Raylan Posted January 30, 2021 Posted January 30, 2021 It's part of the language of the left. Identity politics. And if you don't understand it, you need to, or you will be an unarmed victim of it. It's a direct assault on the concept of individual rights as it assigns rights and privilege to victim groups over the so called victimizer groups.
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