Rye Miles #13621 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 I think I know the answer but I’ll ask anyway. Do you run new brass through the first die that punches out the primer?? It also sizes if I’m correct. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSnake Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Absolutely. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Gunslinger Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 I do. Who knows what size those things are after getting chucked around by UPS/Fedex. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Always 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 I got to where I tumble it first. But I think the last batch I hit with Hornaday spray lube. Had some problems sticking on the expander die. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 ALWAYS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 Thanks everyone, I thought so but it’s been a long time since I got bee brass! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Duncan Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 OMG....... YOU BOUGHT NEW BRASS? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 yes - and the reason i know is i didnt till i asked and had issues , run them thru just like they were once fired and everything will go pretty smooth , alternative is a lot of extra work on your part as well as a lot o0f hassle 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Creek Kid Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I don’t. No problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Creek Jack Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I wet tumble with ss pins then run through like once fired, I think the wet tumble removes any burrs or other stuff left over from the manufacture. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho Gunslinger Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 3 minutes ago, Silver Creek Jack said: I wet tumble with ss pins then run through like once fired, I think the wet tumble removes any burrs or other stuff left over from the manufacture. Do you lube them after wet tumbling? Wet tumbled brass is so clean I get a hell of a workout running it through the sizing die. I've resorted to wet tumbling my brass and then dry tumbling it with a generous amount of polish added to the dry media. This seems to lube the cases up just enough that they run smoothly through the sizing die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I always lube. Much easier on my shoulder! Now using Hornady one shot. Used to use my homemade lanolin/alcohol like Dillon's, but that needs to be tumbled to remove or they're sticky. Hornady is good to go after loading. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Spade Mikey Wilson Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Yes for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I size, remove from station 1, check for proper length, trim if necessary, then replace in station one and proceed. (I have found a few to need it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Idaho Gunslinger said: Do you lube them after wet tumbling? Wet tumbled brass is so clean I get a hell of a workout running it through the sizing die. I've resorted to wet tumbling my brass and then dry tumbling it with a generous amount of polish added to the dry media. This seems to lube the cases up just enough that they run smoothly through the sizing die. after wet tumbling (and drying in our hot Texas Sun) I always use a shot of Hornady One-Shot--makes my .45 Colt brass SO Much easier to reload 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Yepper!! Every time Rye!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacotua Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said: I always lube. Much easier on my shoulder! Now using Hornady one shot. Used to use my homemade lanolin/alcohol like Dillon's, but that needs to be tumbled to remove or they're sticky. Hornady is good to go after loading. With bottleneck brass, I would not recommend Hornady One Shot. That product gets brass stuck in dies. Again at least with bottleneck rifle brass (not CAS brass, 308, 300 win mag, 223 rem, etc.) Just a heads up. Edited July 23 by Dacotua 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 It's been so long since I bought brand new brass, I don't remember! Yes, resize with a little One Shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 30 minutes ago, Dacotua said: With bottleneck brass, I would not recommend Hornady One Shot. That product gets brass stuck in dies. Again at least with bottleneck rifle brass (not CAS brass, 308, 300 win mag, 223 rem, etc.) Just a heads up. I have never had that problem. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go West Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I spray case lube in the case feeder. Works great on brand new brass and it makes it easier on the old stuff, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Long ago I loaded some 45 Colt in new unsized brass and you could twist the bullet in the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Creek Jack Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 10 hours ago, Idaho Gunslinger said: Do you lube them after wet tumbling? Wet tumbled brass is so clean I get a hell of a workout running it through the sizing die. I've resorted to wet tumbling my brass and then dry tumbling it with a generous amount of polish added to the dry media. This seems to lube the cases up just enough that they run smoothly through the sizing die. Yes, I use Hornady one shot lube. Easy Peasy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rance - SASS # 54090 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Yep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 The only new brass I ever used was 500 45Colt Starline. I ran them through a sizing die as a QC check. Then when loading on my XL650 I had issue with station 2 & 4. Then I checked the OL of the sized cases and found that they were all longer than the SAMMI max. case length. There also was enough variation in lengths which caused the issues at station 2 & 4. The case mouth bell was either too much or too little. I wound up resizing all the cases I ran through station 2. Then I trimmed every case. Since then the 1st time I run new or used cases through a sizing die I trim the cases which the Lyman No. 49 manual recommends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Dan Blodgett, SASS #75655 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Gospel is to resize. With pistol brass I very rarely do. If there are dings in case mouth then pretty much have to. I generally loaded virgin national match brass for high power matches straight out of the box and it never failed me in a match. Thin brass like 38-40 and 44-40 is pretty easy to damage case mouths in shipping and handling. Having said that I check my cases if case mouth is round straight out of the bag I load and go. Prime expand case mouth add powder in lots of 50 to loading block visually inspect all for powder and proper level, then seat bullets and package for matches Again Gospel is to resize initially trim and chamfer as necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 On 7/23/2024 at 11:57 AM, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: Long ago I loaded some 45 Colt in new unsized brass and you could twist the bullet in the case. this was my experience till i asked here - some bullets would actually push into the case - very aggravating , and a PITA when i had to fix them , thanks to those that responded to me i now understand that new brass is not necessarily ready to load [some were some/most not , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 (edited) Thanks for all the responses! I used some Hornady one shot spray, man that makes them go in nice and easy. I'm using a Lee Single stage press for .45 Colt which I won't be shooting much but I've got a beautiful 73 Taylor's rifle back that used to be mine and I decided to shoot it now and then. My Dillon 550 is set up for .38's and I don't want to mess with it!! Edited July 25 by Rye Miles #13621 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) Get a toolhead set up for 45 and switch it into your 550. Easy switch. On 7/25/2024 at 8:45 AM, Rye Miles #13621 said: Thanks for all the responses! I used some Hornady one shot spray, man that makes them go in nice and easy. I'm using a Lee Single stage press for .45 Colt which I won't be shooting much but I've got a beautiful 73 Taylor's rifle back that used to be mine and I decided to shoot it now and then. My Dillon 550 is set up for .38's and I don't want to mess with it!! Edited July 26 by I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Or better yet: a 2nd 550 set up for the other primer size! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 On 7/22/2024 at 5:57 PM, Rye Miles #13621 said: I think I know the answer but I’ll ask anyway. Do you run new brass through the first die that punches out the primer?? It also sizes if I’m correct. yep, just throw them into the case feeder and let them fly around the press. No change from using fired brass. I do add a little Hornady spray lube to both batches of brass to help them along on the press. TM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 im not going to argue with anyone but ill repeat that resizing makes them load correctly if only slight ot drastically out of spec , its just a normal step in the process , why not ? you save very little if it works wewll and you save a great deal if it goes sideways , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted July 29 Author Share Posted July 29 On 7/26/2024 at 3:22 PM, I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321 said: Get a toolhead set up for 45 and switch it into your 550. Easy switch. No I don't want to mess with it! I'm only going to shoot .45's once in a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Surgeon Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 On 7/23/2024 at 8:41 AM, Idaho Gunslinger said: Do you lube them after wet tumbling? Wet tumbled brass is so clean I get a hell of a workout running it through the sizing die. I've resorted to wet tumbling my brass and then dry tumbling it with a generous amount of polish added to the dry media. This seems to lube the cases up just enough that they run smoothly through the sizing die. use a wash n wax product when you wet tumble. it leaves some wax on the case and makes them slide a little easier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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