New brass sizing

[Rye Miles #13621]

I think I know the answer but I’ll ask anyway. Do you run new brass through the first die that punches out the primer?? It also sizes if I’m correct. 

[KingSnake]

Absolutely. 

[Idaho Gunslinger]

I do. Who knows what size those things are after getting chucked around by UPS/Fedex.

[Eyesa Horg]

Always

[Warden Callaway]

I got to where I tumble it first. But I think the last batch I hit with Hornaday spray lube. Had some problems sticking on the expander die. 

[The Original Lumpy Gritz]

ALWAYS 

[Rye Miles #13621]

Thanks everyone, I thought so but it’s been a long time since I got bee brass!

[Matthew Duncan]

Yes.

[Garrison Joe, SASS #60708]

OMG.......

 

 

 

 

 

YOU BOUGHT NEW BRASS?    

[watab kid]

yes - and the reason i know is i didnt till i asked and had issues , run them thru just like they were once fired and everything will go pretty smooth , alternative is a lot of extra work on your part as well as a lot o0f hassle 

[Thunder Creek Kid]

I don’t. 
No problems. 

[Silver Creek Jack]

I wet tumble with ss pins then run through like once fired, I think the wet tumble removes any burrs or other stuff left over from the manufacture.

[Idaho Gunslinger]

3 minutes ago, Silver Creek Jack said:

I wet tumble with ss pins then run through like once fired, I think the wet tumble removes any burrs or other stuff left over from the manufacture.

Do you lube them after wet tumbling? Wet tumbled brass is so clean I get a hell of a workout running it through the sizing die. I've resorted to wet tumbling my brass and then dry tumbling it with a generous amount of polish added to the dry media. This seems to lube the cases up just enough that they run smoothly through the sizing die. 

[Eyesa Horg]

I always lube. Much easier on my shoulder! Now using Hornady one shot. Used to use my homemade lanolin/alcohol like Dillon's, but that needs to be tumbled to remove or they're sticky. Hornady is good to go after loading.

[High Spade Mikey Wilson]

Yes for sure!

[Griff]

I size, remove from station 1, check for proper length, trim if necessary, then replace in station one and proceed.  (I have found a few to need it).

[Cheyenne Ranger, 48747L]

1 hour ago, Idaho Gunslinger said:

Do you lube them after wet tumbling? Wet tumbled brass is so clean I get a hell of a workout running it through the sizing die. I've resorted to wet tumbling my brass and then dry tumbling it with a generous amount of polish added to the dry media. This seems to lube the cases up just enough that they run smoothly through the sizing die. 

 

after wet tumbling (and drying in our hot Texas Sun) I always use a shot of Hornady One-Shot--makes my .45 Colt brass SO Much easier to reload

[Colorado Coffinmaker]

Yepper!!  Every time Rye!!

[Dacotua]

2 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said:

I always lube. Much easier on my shoulder! Now using Hornady one shot. Used to use my homemade lanolin/alcohol like Dillon's, but that needs to be tumbled to remove or they're sticky. Hornady is good to go after loading.

 

With bottleneck brass, I would not recommend Hornady One Shot. That product gets brass stuck in dies. Again at least with bottleneck rifle brass (not CAS brass, 308, 300 win mag, 223 rem, etc.)

 

Just a heads up.

[Cypress Sun]

It's been so long since I bought brand new brass, I don't remember!

 

Yes, resize with a little One Shot.

[Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L]

30 minutes ago, Dacotua said:

 

With bottleneck brass, I would not recommend Hornady One Shot. That product gets brass stuck in dies. Again at least with bottleneck rifle brass (not CAS brass, 308, 300 win mag, 223 rem, etc.)

 

Just a heads up.

I have never had that problem.

[Go West]

I spray case lube in the case feeder. Works great on brand new brass and it makes it easier on the old stuff, too.

[Abilene, SASS # 27489]

Long ago I loaded some 45 Colt in new unsized brass and you could twist the bullet in the case.

 

 

[Silver Creek Jack]

10 hours ago, Idaho Gunslinger said:

Do you lube them after wet tumbling? Wet tumbled brass is so clean I get a hell of a workout running it through the sizing die. I've resorted to wet tumbling my brass and then dry tumbling it with a generous amount of polish added to the dry media. This seems to lube the cases up just enough that they run smoothly through the sizing die. 

Yes, I use Hornady one shot lube. Easy Peasy

[Rance - SASS # 54090]

Yep

[J.D. Daily]

The only new brass I ever used was 500 45Colt Starline.  I ran them through a sizing die as a QC check.  Then when loading on my XL650 I had issue with station 2 & 4.  Then I checked the OL of the sized cases and found that they were all longer than the SAMMI max. case length.  There also was enough variation in lengths which caused the issues at station 2 & 4.  The case mouth bell was either too much or too little.  I wound up resizing all the cases I ran through station 2.  Then I trimmed every case.  Since then the 1st time I run new or used cases through a sizing die I trim the cases which the Lyman No. 49 manual recommends. 

 

[Cpt Dan Blodgett, SASS #75655]

Gospel is to resize.  With pistol brass I very rarely do. If there are dings in case mouth then pretty much have to.  I generally loaded virgin national match brass for high power matches straight out of the box and it never failed me in a match.  Thin brass like 38-40 and 44-40 is pretty easy to damage case mouths in shipping and handling.  Having said that I check my cases if case mouth is round straight out of the bag I load and go.  Prime expand case mouth add powder in lots of 50 to loading block visually inspect all for powder and proper level, then seat bullets and package for matches

Again Gospel is to resize initially trim and chamfer as necessary

[watab kid]

On 7/23/2024 at 11:57 AM, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:

Long ago I loaded some 45 Colt in new unsized brass and you could twist the bullet in the case.

 

 

this was my experience till i asked here - some bullets would actually push into the case - very aggravating , and a PITA when i had to fix them , thanks to those that responded to me i now understand that new brass is not necessarily ready to load  [some were some/most not ,  

[Rye Miles #13621]

Thanks for all the responses! I used some Hornady one shot spray, man that makes them go in nice and easy. I'm using a Lee Single stage press for .45 Colt which I won't be shooting much but I've got a beautiful 73 Taylor's rifle back that used to be mine and I decided to shoot it now and then. 

 

My Dillon 550 is set up for .38's and I don't want to mess with it!!

[I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321]

Get a toolhead set up for 45 and switch it into your 550.  Easy switch. 

 

On 7/25/2024 at 8:45 AM, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Thanks for all the responses! I used some Hornady one shot spray, man that makes them go in nice and easy. I'm using a Lee Single stage press for .45 Colt which I won't be shooting much but I've got a beautiful 73 Taylor's rifle back that used to be mine and I decided to shoot it now and then. 

 

My Dillon 550 is set up for .38's and I don't want to mess with it!!

 

[Griff]

Or better yet:  

a 2nd 550 set up for the other primer size!

[Texas Maverick]

On 7/22/2024 at 5:57 PM, Rye Miles #13621 said:

I think I know the answer but I’ll ask anyway. Do you run new brass through the first die that punches out the primer?? It also sizes if I’m correct. 

yep, just throw them into the case feeder and let them fly around the press. No change from using fired brass. I do add a little Hornady spray lube to both batches of brass to help them along on the press.

 

TM

[watab kid]

im not going to argue with anyone but ill repeat that resizing makes them load correctly if only slight ot drastically out of spec , its just a normal step in the process , why not ? you save very little if it works wewll and you save a great deal if it goes sideways , 

[Rye Miles #13621]

On 7/26/2024 at 3:22 PM, I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321 said:

Get a toolhead set up for 45 and switch it into your 550.  Easy switch. 

 

 

No I don't want to mess with it! I'm only going to shoot .45's once in a while.

[The Surgeon]

On 7/23/2024 at 8:41 AM, Idaho Gunslinger said:

Do you lube them after wet tumbling? Wet tumbled brass is so clean I get a hell of a workout running it through the sizing die. I've resorted to wet tumbling my brass and then dry tumbling it with a generous amount of polish added to the dry media. This seems to lube the cases up just enough that they run smoothly through the sizing die. 

use a wash n wax product when you wet tumble. it leaves some wax on the case and makes them slide a little easier.