Dawg Hair, SASS #29557 Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 What would you all recommend to use as a deterrent against coyote attacks? I live in a highly urbanized area, not in the countryside, and I walk my dog, a Cocker Spaniel every day in the afternoons. There have been sightings of coyotes in broad daylight in my subdivison and the wild rabbits population has virtually disappeared. Sooting one would be a ticket to jail. Would pepper spray/mace, etc. help?
Perro Del Diablo Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 Air horn might be effective but could annoy neighbors. Pepper spray will work best if get in their eyes and mouth. Watched a really big dog rubbing his head on grass after good blast of pepper spray
DeaconKC Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 Before I retired I had to use pepper spray on several dogs over the years. Usually effective, if you get them on the nose and eyes, but not always. I have heard of folks using a squirt bottle with ammonia in it on stray dogs too.
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 SABRE RED PROTECTOR Spray is recommended by THIS SITE
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 Wasp and Hornet Spray to the Face. PSS: Forgot . . . Your average spray can of Wasp Spray will reach 15 feet.
sassnetguy50 Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 Pepper spray can be effective against coyotes, your dog, and you. Any wild animal that attacks people walking near their house deserves to be shot. Start walking with a stout walking stick. An air horn may annoy neighbors but will also alert them that you be in need.
Michigan Slim Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 I would carry a darn gun. In Indiana anyways self defense is self defense. I doesn't matter how many legs the critters have!
Warden Callaway Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 We have a lot of coyotes from time to time. There don't seem to be many right now. I suspect mountain lion have run them out. They are usually cowardly and show no threat to humans. But, they get urbanized and sometimes interbred with dogs or even wolves and become something else. Maybe a power air gun? Or gun with silencer?
Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 Get bear spray. The maximum Capsaicinoids allowed in pepper spray is 1%. Bear spray is allowed 2%. Plus I'd pack a pistol anyway. Better yet, get a dog like my sweet boy, Tex:
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 Consider your options. Going to jail for protecting yourself and your dog might actually be a small price to pay. Would 12 jurors actually convict you of a crime for killing an attacking coyote? It would be your word against the coyote as to who started the fight..... If you want to carry some protection spray, I think the Bear spray and the Hornet spray are good suggestions. ..........Widder
Bad Bascomb, SASS # 47,494 Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 I have several customers who encounter coyotes on their morning walks, and they carry the sprays mentioned, and often a #5 iron in hand.......
Dawg Hair, SASS #29557 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Posted October 25, 2020 5 hours ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said: SABRE RED PROTECTOR Spray is recommended by THIS SITE Thanks for the responses guys. PaleWolf, I tried getting all of these but none of them can be shipped to my address. Probably because it's hazardous stuff. I guess I'll try to get it from a gun store.
Buckshot Bob Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 If you have one patterned trapping might be an option.
Ozark Huckleberry Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 I’ve heard people who have lived around aggressive coyotes refer to dogs on a leash as the coyotes’, ‘snack on a string’. Coyotes are intelligent. I watched a pair try to execute a pretty sharp ambush on my pup, and the only way they could have been ready for it was by patterning our morning routine. It was pure luck that kept my pup from being breakfast. Now I take the dogs out in the a.m. with a spotlight and a Ruger Single Six When I was in Pensacola, coyotes began to hit neighborhoods. Pets disappearing, sightings, etc. The pros used traps and bow hunting to thin the pack.
Redleg Reilly, SASS #46372 Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 Wouldn't put much faith in pepper spray. In my last line of work, I had several opportunities to use pepper spray on fighting dogs with zero positive results.
Church Key, SASS # 33713 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 I live in a subdivision that backs up to a 400 acre cattle pasture with a quarry behind it. Last week a new-born calf was killed and eaten overnight by coyotes. Now keep a shotgun by the back door where I let the dog out in the fenced in yard. Also always carry a pistol when walking my dog. Self-protection is a necessary thing. Not too far from here, they have bear sightings. When the cats start disappearing, the coyotes have populated. A couple of folks will hunt them on the quarry property occasionally. One winter they killed about 70.
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 I hear Acme has some great products to deter an aggressive coyote.
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 I would carry a long staff, or an aluminum baseball bat. Perhaps some spray, as well. A coyote can snatch a dog, that is right with you, in a matter of seconds, and be heading away from you before you know what happened. My good friend experienced that, not long ago. I would also carry a pistol, just in case, as an option, in case things seem to be escalating. A coyote, that is too aggressive, might have rabies, since most don't mess with humans that much. That can be also said of aggressive dogs. Fear of rabies, in an aggressive animal, can be a defense, if you have to shoot it, in a neighborhood. We have to stand in the gap of time, until the law enforcement folks get there. No insult to the authorities, but when seconds count, the police are minutes away. A heck of a lot can happen in a few seconds. Trust me, you do not want to have to take that series of rabies shots in the belly for a few days.
Noz Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 10 hours ago, Warden Callaway said: We have a lot of coyotes from time to time. There don't seem to be many right now. I suspect mountain lion have run them out. They are usually cowardly and show no threat to humans. But, they get urbanized and sometimes interbred with dogs or even wolves and become something else. Maybe a power air gun? Or gun with silencer? Nope Warden. The Bigfoots have them all trained to be coon hounds
Warden Callaway Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Noz said: Nope Warden. The Bigfoots have them all trained to be coon hounds Maybe it's the bobcats?
Hells Comin Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 21 hours ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Would 12 jurors actually convict you of a crime for killing an attacking coyote U must live in a Red State, USA.
Michigan Slim Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, Hells Comin said: U must live in a Red State, USA. We both do.
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 I'm thinking Samurai sword. Silent but effective. And it won't bother the neighbors until someone finds a decapitated coyote.
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 Suppressors/silencers, are a big item now. Carry a semi-automatic .22 with a suppressor/silencer....if you can stand the price, and the red-tape to get one. Just have it as a backup, for your staff/baseball bat, and your bear spray. It is always preferable to have multiple systems for self defense.
Michigan Slim Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 I haven't seen a flame thrower mentioned yet.....
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Hells Comin said: U must live in a Red State, USA. RED thru and thru..... We have a few varmints that are open season, year round, NO limit. If I'm not mistaken, coyote's are on that list. No minimum caliber requirements. Day or night killings have no restrictions. Night hunts are not uncommon. ..........Widder
Trailrider #896 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 I hear some folks have wolf-dog mixed breeds. Buy one of those and take it for a walk, and I doubt the coyotes would bother you!
Michigan Slim Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: RED thru and thru..... We have a few varmints that are open season, year round, NO limit. If I'm not mistaken, coyote's are on that list. No minimum caliber requirements. Day or night killings have no restrictions. Night hunts are not uncommon. ..........Widder Here as well. There is a season for trapping but you are allowed to kill them if they are harming OR ABOUT TO HARM PROPERTY. Shoot on site is the norm. Kaya and her .243 have proved particularly effective.
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 My son had a coyote get way too close to his Great Pyrenees, that he had in his back yard. He lives in the country. I guess the coyote did not realize that the Great Pyrenees is big, and has no fear, and is not tolerant, and is territorial, and...is nocturnal as well. The battle was loud enough to wake up my son and his wife. They held services for the coyote in the morning. They had several services for skunks, over the years, as well.
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 I live in a fairly rural area of southern Oklahoma and if a coyote was encountered it about has to be rabid. On walks I carry a hideout pistol and a 6ft long walking staff made of tough black locust. Matter of fact, this is my same go to when walking at my daughters in Plano, TX. Canes and staffs used to be the first order of defense against a lot of two and four legged varmints and for good reason. Very effective if you train a little.
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 As a side note....the State dog of Texas, is the Blue Lacy, named after the Lacy family that moved to Texas in 1858, and bred/developed the dog...is a mixture of greyhound, coyote, "scent-hound", and perhaps some English shepherd as well. It is said the Lacy brothers originally bred the dog to help work the family's herds of hogs....but the herd instinct, in the dog, also worked toward cattle as well. W.K.
Warden Callaway Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 A bigger menace is feral dowgs. They run in packs and don't have fear of humans. They have learned to watch cows giving birth and attack when the calf emerges. Coyote have picked up on this strategy also.
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 His living in a "highly urbanized area" doesn't deter you guys from recommending carrying a gun? Ooops sorry I shot your car but a coyote looked at me!
Michigan Slim Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 36 minutes ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said: His living in a "highly urbanized area" doesn't deter you guys from recommending carrying a gun? Ooops sorry I shot your car but a coyote looked at me! Not in the slightest. I do too.
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