Alpo Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 You know - how old to be vintage? Another board, and there's a thread about what types of collections do you have in your accumulation. One guy says he collects vintage Smith & Wesson hand ejectors - mostly Ks and Ns, with the occasional J or L. L? The first L frame Smith in Wesson was introduced in 1980. That's only 42 years ago. 42 years - vintage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Who determines "Vintage"? As far as I know there is no "authority" that does that sort of thing. If one is in their 20's then a 42 year old gun would seem to be "vintage". I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I guess that makes me vintage as well. At least I am not yet considered antique. In my mind, Vintage is going to be from the first half of the 20th century. I consider my WW1 and WW2 stuff to be vintage I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgavin Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 One has to ask, "Is this neo-vintage, mid-century vintage, or classic vintage?" For me, I my (pre-2005) Vaqueros are "vintage", cuz they don't make 'em no' mo'. I'm considered "mid-century" vintage... with mid-century vintage dental fillings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Who determines "Vintage"? As far as I know there is no "authority" that does that sort of thing. If one is in their 20's then a 42 year old gun would seem to be "vintage". I'm sure. There's an online story. It's taking place in about 2014. Drunk driver almost hits a little girl. The next day the sheriff is talking to the hero of the story - 16-year-old kid - who was a witness. And he asked what happened. "It was an old red Chevy pickup, maybe a 96...", and the sheriff starts shaking his head. "Scott, to some of us 96 is not 'old'." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 What do I consider a vintage gun? A Any firearm that was manufactured before I was born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 A pre lock Smith? A JM Marlin pre crossbolt safety? A pre Miroku made Winchester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 From times before lawyers influenced firearms design and production. BTW, I have a Miroku 1892 and mine is as well manufactured and finished as my antique '92 Winchesters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 My Grandson called me "Vintage" a while back. I corrected him and told him I was "a one of a kind classic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 What would you consider a vintage gun? The one I bought last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 IIRC, to get antique plates for an auto or truck here in VA, it's got to be 25 yrs old. Not sure if that would apply to your "vintage" question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 My Winchester 94 made in 1895 .... My LC Smith Double made in 1923... My Husky Double Made in 1884...etc. Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Speaking of "vintage", the latest American Rifleman features in "This Old Gun", an Uberti replica of a Sharps 4-barrel derringer. Suggests a pretty good price. First time I've seen a replica listed there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I am pretty sure the term "vintage" has a lot to do with price. If a 25 year old gun is called "vintage" but has a high price one could argue that it is not vintage, therefore not worth the price. On the other hand if someone is selling a "vintage' gun and the price is very good then one might just be very happy about their "vintage" purchase. Also, I feel that vintage also may have a lot to do with ego, but I won't go into that here. It might hurt someone's feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawhorse Kid Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I asked this question once, I was told Pre 1898. https://forums.sassnet.com/index.php?/topic/302376-state-of-antique/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Trapper Tom Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 My understanding as a general rule forty years is considered vintage. I’ve been collecting antiques my entire life. Other things can effect this, such as a fad in a particular area, such as stereos, furniture, etc. something that comes and goes quickly but lead to a new development. Otherwise 40 years is the general rule. Then there’s the factor of something that comes on the market and dies, but someone else makes it famous then he/she dies. That item can be referred to as vintage, even though it may only be 20 years old. Collectors tend to control this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Trapper Tom Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Alpo, one of the other things I’ve encountered in my collecting, referred to originality. Meaning that a piece could be antique, but not vintage. Example. Take a very early model 1873 in original condition. Certainly an antique. However owner did modifications to the firearm. This reduces value. It is an antique, but modified it is not vintage. Now enter a famous gun maker or engraver that did work on the firearm, it becomes a vintage in their name and antique because of age age. It’s very finicky, depends on a lot of factors and you have to research everything about the firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 At this point in my life I consider vintage guns to be anything 50 years old or more. Vintage clothing, pre 1950. Vintage food, most of what’s in my refrigerator. Vintage wine, 20 years old. Vintage whiskey, anything still in ax bottle. Vintage ladies, no such thing. Some day, Glocks will be vintage. Scary isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 12 hours ago, Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 said: I guess that makes me vintage as well. At least I am not yet considered antique. In my mind, Vintage is going to be from the first half of the 20th century. I consider my WW1 and WW2 stuff to be vintage I suppose. I'm a "collectible". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Ya Hoo i'm Vintage ,,,, Over 50 and One of a Kind !!! And Grumpy to Boot .... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vintage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 In my opinion, the term vintage refers more to the quality than the age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 .... at my vintage .... the milk has curdled and become chunky .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blarney Kid Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 I have 2 firearms I would consider vintage and 2 that are pretty close. I have a Colt New Service in 45 Colt made about mid-year 1916, and an 1895 Winchester in 30-40 Krag. The close ones are a Winchester 62A .22, and a Ruger Blackhawk flat top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 "Vintage" is lazy advertising jargon, meaning "it was made in the past, but it's not antique". To make it make sense, it should be followed by a date frame, such as "a 1940's vintage revolver." At least is should include a date range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassnetguy50 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 On 3/31/2022 at 1:11 PM, Capt. R. Hugh Kidnme said: IIRC, to get antique plates for an auto or truck here in VA, it's got to be 25 yrs old. Not sure if that would apply to your "vintage" question To me, that needs extrapolated to match the years of history. Compare the length of time the automobile has been mainstream to the timeline of smokeless powder, then to black powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Antique cars are different. Can get antique tags if they're 25 years old here in TN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Vintahe is when starts to add value to a firearm. Remember all of those Win Model 94s for <$300 about 10-15 years ago. Now those are vintage guns selling for more. Vintage could also be anything not considered modern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I think anything pre 1970 would be vintage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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