College students about to be suspended!

[Trailrider #896]

Some of the colleges and universities where the demonstrations are taking place, are threatening to suspend the students involved.  Suspended, HELL. They ought to be expelled and no money given back! Of course, if I had my way, they'd be suspended...by the neck, from the nearest lamppost! The outside adjitators love Hamas so much, send 'em to Gaza!   Freedom of speech is one thing. When they threaten anybody, they remove that protection!

[Subdeacon Joe]

These events are not "pro-Palestinian." They are media events staged by supporters of Muslim Einsatzgruppen dedicated to carrying out the National Socialist Final Solution.
The Hamas death squads , as usual, broke the existing cease fire, attacked Israel, retreated behind their human shields in Gaza, killing many citizens themselves for propaganda photos as well as knowing that IDF retaliation would inflict additional civilian casualties among the women and infants that Hamas loves to hide behind, and then scream for a cease fire because big bad Israel is picking on them for no reason. All those mohammedean Einsatzgruppen want is a chance to rearm.

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

One happened up at Arizona State University last weekend. About 250 protesters, 72 arrests, but only 15 were students. 

Sound familiar? 

It reminds ME of the antiwar protests on the late 60s and early 70s. The people leading these protests were later found out to be foreign agents. 

So it begs the question, WHO is actually leading these protests? 

ASU story here:

https://www.axios.com/local/phoenix/2024/04/29/palestinian-protests-arizona-state-university-arrests

[Cypress Sun]

 

The Florida colleges have nipped this crap in the bud right off the bat. The ones that let this BS continue until it was too late are getting what they deserve.

 

I feel sorry for the true students that are there for an education and have to deal with these idiots and non-student outside agitators that are preventing them from receiving that education. Some of them won't even have a graduation ceremony because of it.

 

Free speech is one thing but what is going on has gone way past free speech.

Trespass the non-students, arrest the ones that are causing violence/destruction of property/intimidation by use of hate related material and permanently expel the students that are doing the same thing. Interrogate the leaders to find out who is financing this crap and charge them with financing a terrorist organization and upon a guilty verdict, permanently kick them out of the US after their jail sentence is completed.

 

I saw an interview with some clueless little bimbo at the University of Florida issuing their "list of demands". It was pathetic...and disheartening to know that these are the future "leaders" of business and government...and they vote.

[Pat Riot]

We need to bring back the Iron Maiden, the rack, stocks, whipping posts and any and all other Medieval recreational equipment. 

[Cypress Sun]

22 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

We need to bring back the Iron Maiden, the rack, stocks, whipping posts and any and all other Medieval recreational equipment. 

 

Never really cared for Iron Maiden's music, the other stuff sounds like fun though!

[Sedalia Dave]

Expel them and refuse to allow them to take final exams.  

 

They'll have to repeat the semester and those that are seniors will not graduate.  Will teach them an important live lesson. Actions have Consequences. 

 

Those that are not students need to be prosecuted for hate crimes.

[John Kloehr]

I'm having trouble with the concept of any American being an outsider. No matter how much I might find the views wrong on any level, I must respect the 1st lest I be shut down in turn. The Constitution is the very product of an interest balancing and takes certain policy choices off the table (I know I quoted this slightly wrong)

 

Any foreign interest using any Americans as puppets? Go find them and expose them and shut them down! And do it within our rule of law.

[Michigan Slim]

58 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said:

 

Never really cared for Iron Maiden's music, the other stuff sounds like fun though!

I'll put some on now. I'm a fan. My first cassette tape was Maiden! 

[Rip Snorter]

I hated mobs in the late '60's and crossed a lot of their picket lines.  I still hate them in their zombie rebirth.  I don't have the physicality I had then, but if I run into it, not likely in central Montana, I'll see if I can do it once more as an old man.  Mobs are as smart as the stupidest member and generally cowardly.  One Ranger, one Riot.  Not only should they be expelled, a one way ticket to the Sandbox with no passport seems fair.

[Widder, SASS #59054]

3 hours ago, Trailrider #896 said:

 They ought to be expelled and no money given back!

 

The only problem with this is that the money they paid was probably thru government 'Student Loans', in which the Prez has

forgiven their payback.

 

..........Widder

 

[Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619]

I add my voice to those who deplore these aberrant events!

[Abilene Slim SASS 81783]

I’m thinking they need to be dropped off in Gaza or any of the criminally governed, racist, women-abusing Islamist hell holes in the Middle East to see what it’s really like. 
 

 

Edited May 1 by Abilene Slim SASS 81783

[Trailrider #896]

1 hour ago, Rip Snorter said:

I hated mobs in the late '60's and crossed a lot of their picket lines.  I still hate them in their zombie rebirth.  I don't have the physicality I had then, but if I run into it, not likely in central Montana, I'll see if I can do it once more as an old man.  Mobs are as smart as the stupidest member and generally cowardly.  One Ranger, one Riot.  Not only should they be expelled, a one way ticket to the Sandbox with no passport seems fair.

If you are in Central Montana, I'd check with the 341st Missile Wing and see if any of the 450 silos are currently empty, and if they would mind dropping a few of these agitators down them! Naw! The maintenance troops would just have to clean up the mess, and that wouldn't be fair to them! 

 

I won't mention the names for fear of being sued or worse, but there are certain billionaires supporting these people with cash money. As far as any students who are involved, and refusing to obey peaceably  demonstration rules, of the colleges, and especially for threatening anybody, they should be expelled immediately, with no opportunity to return, and their academic records noted for the reason. I believe there are plenty of menial jobs that are hiring, so they won't starve.  Or ship them off to Gaza. I'd bet the first thing they would get to do would be to serve as human shields for Hamas! 

 

I yield the stump!

[Rex M Rugers #6621]

I have my doubts that a year ago , 50 percent of these "students" even knew what or where Palestine is.

Rex , who hasn't much faith in the "woke" generation.

[Ozark Huckleberry]

Columbia University reports that about 1/3 of its enrollment are on student visas.

 

Peaceful protests -- sure, even if they are a little loud and obnoxious. Part and parcel of democracy. 'Occupation', intimidation, threats, property damage? Nope. Disciplinary action depending on the severity of the act, prosecution for criminal offenses (as if that would happen to anyone other than a conservative in most of the places where the protests are holding sway). For foreign students, that should also include revoke and deport.

 

Non-student agitators? It's become pretty evident there's a well-funded organization behind this. Round them up, hit them with conspiracy charges. If any are (or run their mouths to claim they are) associated with Hamas -- well, Hamas has been designated as a foreign terrorist organization, and I hear there's plenty of room in Guantanamo for them.

 

The majority of the foot soldiers in the protests are useful idiots being easily manipulated. What they can't fathom is that their actions are only prolonging and exacerbating the injuries to the Gaza civilians by giving Hamas (Iran, Hezbollah, et al.) reason to continue their resistance.

[DocWard]

10 hours ago, Cypress Sun said:

 

Never really cared for Iron Maiden's music, the other stuff sounds like fun though!

 

WHAT?!? My first rock concert was Iron Maiden (if my parents had only known!) 40-odd years later, I'm still a fan.

Oh, as for the topic, I think @Ozark Huckleberry summed it up pretty well.

[Big Sage, SASS #49891 Life]

.......and any teachers/professors protesting should be fired instantly!

[Pat Riot]

3 hours ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

Columbia University reports that about 1/3 of its enrollment are on student visas.

 

Peaceful protests -- sure, even if they are a little loud and obnoxious. Part and parcel of democracy. 'Occupation', intimidation, threats, property damage? Nope. Disciplinary action depending on the severity of the act, prosecution for criminal offenses (as if that would happen to anyone other than a conservative in most of the places where the protests are holding sway). For foreign students, that should also include revoke and deport.

 

Non-student agitators? It's become pretty evident there's a well-funded organization behind this. Round them up, hit them with conspiracy charges. If any are (or run their mouths to claim they are) associated with Hamas -- well, Hamas has been designated as a foreign terrorist organization, and I hear there's plenty of room in Guantanamo for them.

 

The majority of the foot soldiers in the protests are useful idiots being easily manipulated. What they can't fathom is that their actions are only prolonging and exacerbating the injuries to the Gaza civilians by giving Hamas (Iran, Hezbollah, et al.) reason to continue their resistance.

 

3 hours ago, DocWard said:

 

WHAT?!? My first rock concert was Iron Maiden (if my parents had only known!) 40-odd years later, I'm still a fan.

Oh, as for the topic, I think @Ozark Huckleberry summed it up pretty well.

Agreed +1

 

And…I also like Iron Maiden. I discovered them in Greece at an Athens bootleg cassette tape shop. I bought quite a few tapes there that day. Apparently it was legal to copy and sell copyrighted music there in ‘82. Or the store owner just didn’t care. 

[Subdeacon Joe]

3 hours ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

Peaceful protests -- sure, even if they are a little loud and obnoxious. Part and parcel of democracy. 'Occupation', intimidation, threats, property damage? Nope.

 

BINGO!!!

I might not like the message, but they have the right to express it...as long as their exercise of their civil rights does not infringe on the civil rights of others.  Including impeding their coming and going on their normal, legal business.  

 

As to the suggestions of racks, thumbscrews, iron maiden, etc. I refuse to be lowered to the level of mohammedean "justice" and say to whoever suggested it, you first.  If you want to tear up the Constitution and its protections maybe Yemen, Iran, or N. Korea would be more to your taste.

 

I hear people whine about "criminals have more rights than honest citizens" when an obscure clause in the law is used to overturn or prevent a conviction.  I might not agree, but, by Vulcan's left nut, I want those protections from the terrible power of the State in place if I'm ever arrested.  I want every stumbling block, impediment, and obstacle to shield me from that power.  

 

[Pat Riot]

5 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

As to the suggestions of racks, thumbscrews, iron maiden, etc. I refuse to be lowered to the level of mohammedean "justice" and say to whoever suggested it, you first.

I’d be happy to operate those devices. Especially on the posers, instigators and useful idiots. 

[Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062]

I was wondering if "suspended" involves a tall tree and a short rope ........

 

 

                   ........ seems to me that it might ....  

[Subdeacon Joe]

2 hours ago, Pat Riot said:

I’d be happy to operate those devices. Especially on the posers, instigators and useful idiots. 

 

 

No, no....when someone doesn't like what you are doing.    You seem to want to tear up the Constitution.

As I said, if you want to descend to those levels maybe you would feel more at home in Yemen, Iran, or N. Korea. 

 

Myself, I want every impediment to the power of the State possible.

Edited May 1 by Subdeacon Joe

[watab kid]

about time , way past due and lock up the instigators before we see another Kent state type incident  , i remember the VN protestors and the paid non-student people that were sent to stir things up , keeping students from safely passing to class is not a peaceful protest , occupying buildings either - next they will blow one up like what happened at the university i was at back in 1969  

Edited May 4 by watab kid

[Pat Riot]

4 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

 

No, no....when someone doesn't like what you are doing.    You seem to want to tear up the Constitution.

 

 

Who said anything about tearing up the Constitution? I sure didn’t. 
Nor did I say I want the government involved. 
 

4 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

As I said, if you want to descend to those levels maybe you would feel more at home in Yemen, Iran, or N. Korea. 

So, you don’t like what I have to say so I should leave the country? 
Get off your high horse Joe. I have a freedom of speech too. 
 

[Subdeacon Joe]

18 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

Who said anything about tearing up the Constitution? I sure didn’t. 
Nor did I say I want the government involved. 
 

So, you don’t like what I have to say so I should leave the country? 
Get off your high horse Joe. I have a freedom of speech too. 
 

 

Nope.  Not what I said.  I just suggested that since you seem to be willing to jettison the Constitution and the law and replace them with vengeance and ventetta , that you might be more comfortable in those places. 

And I didn't say that you couldn't say what you said.  But, again, since you seem to want to set aside law and the Constitution and replace them with blood feud, vengeance, vendetta, that just possibly other systems might suit your temperament better.  Until YOU responded I hadn't noticed who had mentioned those instruments of torture.  Maybe you could find work with the imams.  
 

EDIT TO ADD:

 On a purely EMOTIONAL level, I see where you are coming from, but emotion is a dangerous master.  Emotion leads to no law, no protections, only the rule of claw and fang.  

Edited May 2 by Subdeacon Joe

[Pat Riot]

13 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

Nope.  Not what I said.  I just suggested that since you seem to be willing to jettison the Constitution and the law and replace them with vengeance and ventetta , that you might be more comfortable in those places. 

And I didn't say that you couldn't say what you said.  But, again, since you seem to want to set aside law and the Constitution and replace them with blood feud, vengeance, vendetta, that just possibly other systems might suit your temperament better.  Until YOU responded I hadn't noticed who had mentioned those instruments of torture.  Maybe you could find work with the imams.  
 

EDIT TO ADD:

 On a purely EMOTIONAL level, I see where you are coming from, but emotion is a dangerous master.  Emotion leads to no law, no protections, only the rule of claw and fang.  

Maybe I can find work with the Imams? 
Know what Joe, I am not going to write what I was going to as it would just escalate this and I don’t want any bad blood between us. This issue isn’t worth it. 
 

[Ozark Huckleberry]

18 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

BINGO!!!

I might not like the message, but they have the right to express it...as long as their exercise of their civil rights does not infringe on the civil rights of others.  Including impeding their coming and going on their normal, legal business.  

 

As to the suggestions of racks, thumbscrews, iron maiden, etc. I refuse to be lowered to the level of mohammedean "justice" and say to whoever suggested it, you first.  If you want to tear up the Constitution and its protections maybe Yemen, Iran, or N. Korea would be more to your taste.

 

I hear people whine about "criminals have more rights than honest citizens" when an obscure clause in the law is used to overturn or prevent a conviction.  I might not agree, but, by Vulcan's left nut, I want those protections from the terrible power of the State in place if I'm ever arrested.  I want every stumbling block, impediment, and obstacle to shield me from that power.  

 

Justice is far better served by certainty than by barbarity.

[sassnetguy50]

Has anyone been to these campuses?  Are they really coordinating their tents?

[watab kid]

they can express all they want - both students and faculty - till the school thinks they have crossed the line , but , they dont have the right to deny other students to go about their dauly lives and attend their classes to get the education they paid for , as to non-student disrupters , they should be arrested for tress[ass and banned from campus - they didnt pay to be there , 

 

the tents and other crap should be gone - thats not the campus the students paid to attend 

[Seamus McGillicuddy]

Columbia law students now claim that they are too traumatized to take their final exams and want them waived or made pass fail. What delicious irony; I was too busy being anti Semitic to study!  Please put that on your resumes.
 

Seamus 

[Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062]

3 different pictures

3 different universities

same tents ........  

[Charlie Harley, #14153]

On 5/1/2024 at 11:00 PM, Subdeacon Joe said:

On a purely EMOTIONAL level, I see where you are coming from, but emotion is a dangerous master.  Emotion leads to no law, no protections, only the rule of claw and fang.

Well said.

 

I worry about the behavior of all sides when emotions start running unchecked.   A state of semi-anarchy cannot be far behind if cooler, more rational, heads cannot prevail.

[Steel-eye Steve SASS #40674]

7 hours ago, Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 said:

3 different pictures

3 different universities

same tents ........  

I somewhat question the picture, I got my masters from UW-Milwaukee and that scene doesn’t look right. Note the bottom image is the only one that has a distinct building in it…….

[El Chapo]

On 4/30/2024 at 3:37 PM, Trailrider #896 said:

Some of the colleges and universities where the demonstrations are taking place, are threatening to suspend the students involved.  Suspended, HELL. They ought to be expelled and no money given back! Of course, if I had my way, they'd be suspended...by the neck, from the nearest lamppost! The outside adjitators love Hamas so much, send 'em to Gaza!   Freedom of speech is one thing. When they threaten anybody, they remove that protection!

 

They probably will be expelled if they were involved in anything that constitutes a violent crime, but that cannot happen until they have notice and a hearing.  Students at a public university have a constitutional due process right to defend themselves before they can be expelled.  They might even have such a right before they could be suspended unless there is an emergency situation preventing that from happening (and criminal allegations, especially if felonious, probably qualify).