Hashknife Cowboy Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I found this on another forum this morning, any one know the distributor? "I just saw one of the big distributors listing brand new Ruger Old Army revolvers in both blue and stainless. I don't know MSRP but I saw a big online retailer listing them for $900." Appreciate the input, i'm curious if it is the same as the discontinued models from years ago. The price is rather steep though. Thanks again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Lipsey's lists them in their online catalog, but says "not necessarily in stock." Try to order one and let us know what you find out! http://lipseys.com/itemfinder.aspx?mfg=Ruger&family=Old+Army+Series&model=Old+Army+Blackpowder&type=Revolver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I'm a Lipseys dealer, just checked on them.........they won't be cheap thats for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nichols Creek, SASS #77627 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 said: I'm a Lipseys dealer, just checked on them.........they won't be cheap thats for sure. About $1200.00 plus each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 They might be the best cap guns ever made . But thats a lot to ask for a cap gun . Just sayin Rooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I'm wondering how much like the original they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Bruce Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 so ruger did bring the ROA back?!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 It's just a mortgage payment per revolver! No big deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Think they figured out a way to use the transfer bar system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 There is nothing on Ruger's website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 12 hours ago, Dantankerous said: It's just a mortgage payment per revolver! No big deal... I've never had a mortgage payment that high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Bruce Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I wish my mortgage was only $1250... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Dick, SASS #12880 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 They list two models, both with fixed sights, a 5 1/2" in blue and a 7 1/2" in stainless. In the "product details" they list both as having a transfer bar safety ! They are listed as Talo exclusives. Wonder if they'll call them Ruger New Old Armies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al OVERA, SASS#26238 Life Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Guess these will be Neoarmies. Just makes my original ones more valuable. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Dick, SASS #12880 said: They list two models, both with fixed sights, a 5 1/2" in blue and a 7 1/2" in stainless. In the "product details" they list both as having a transfer bar safety ! They are listed as Talo exclusives. Wonder if they'll call them Ruger New Old Armies? Who is they? Where are you finding this information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Dick, SASS #12880 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I followed the Lipsey's link in J-Bar's post. I checked Talo's website, couldn't find any reference, but they don't have a search function that I could see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I got pummeled the last time I mentioned this, but the ROA is just a mix of several original designs - Remington frame with Colt grip frame, and I forget who's loading lever. Looks like the Italians could have made their own modern cap gun with the same features. Also, someone could get the Chinese to make a knockoff that would market for a $100/ea and sale a boatload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 26 minutes ago, Buffalo Dick, SASS #12880 said: I followed the Lipsey's link in J-Bar's post. I checked Talo's website, couldn't find any reference, but they don't have a search function that I could see. First time I tried the link it did not work. Worked this time. I seriously doubt it will or can have a transfer bar. The gun ads are written by the advertising department not the engineers. The early ads are frequently wrong. This is strange. When I was talking to the Ruger folks over the past two years it was emphacised numerous times that the most popular version is the 5 1/2" stainless. Odd that it appears they are offering different less desirable models. Of course no one has any yet so it is hard to tell what, if anything, will eventually hit the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Bruce Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said: I got pummeled the last time I mentioned this, but the ROA is just a mix of several original designs - Remington frame with Colt grip frame, and I forget who's loading lever. Looks like the Italians could have made their own modern cap gun with the same features. Also, someone could get the Chinese to make a knockoff that would market for a $100/ea and sale a boatload. pummel pummel, pummel, pummel... the loading lever was the rogers and spencer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said: I got pummeled the last time I mentioned this, but the ROA is just a mix of several original designs - Remington frame with Colt grip frame, and I forget who's loading lever. Looks like the Italians could have made their own modern cap gun with the same features. Also, someone could get the Chinese to make a knockoff that would market for a $100/ea and sale a boatload. It would be fun to see if those Chinese knockoffs could be proof tested with chambers full of Bullseye like the ROA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Boomstick Bruce said: pummel pummel, pummel, pummel... the loading lever was the rogers and spencer... Take a look at a Whitney Navy or Spiller & Burr loading levers. IMHO, Ruger should have called the ROA a "Super Whitney". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 21 minutes ago, J-BAR #18287 said: It would be fun to see if those Chinese knockoffs could be proof tested with chambers full of Bullseye like the ROA. People are going apey over the Chinese shotguns. I recolecect someone saying the Cimarron 1878 was proofed at 40,000psi. The marketing advantage of not having to go through FFL or other restrictions (in most places) would make it less expensive and easier to distribute direct to the customer. Just need a Coyote Cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Probably acquired a bunch of older stock and selling them at an exclusive price (well, being no longer made that would make them exclusive) GG~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: First time I tried the link it did not work. Worked this time. I seriously doubt it will or can have a transfer bar. The gun ads are written by the advertising department not the engineers. The early ads are frequently wrong. This is strange. When I was talking to the Ruger folks over the past two years it was emphacised numerous times that the most popular version is the 5 1/2" stainless. Odd that it appears they are offering different less desirable models. Of course no one has any yet so it is hard to tell what, if anything, will eventually hit the market. One available at Tooele Shooting Supply, LLC Only $899 Quote Ruger Old Army Blackpowder 45 Cal S/A Cap & Ball Revolver, 7.5″ Barrel, Stainless, TALO Exclusive – Ruger 1406 FAMILY: MODEL:Old Army Blackpowder TYPE:Revolver ACTION:Single Action FINISH:Stainless STOCK/GRIPS:Wood WEIGHT:2 lbs. 14 oz. CALIBER/GAUGE:45 Caliber BARREL:7.5″ OVERALL LENGTH:13.5″ RATE-OF-TWIST:1-in-16 SIGHTS:Fixed ADDL INFO:Stainless Steel for Standard # ADDL INFO:or #11 Percussion Caps GUN CASE:Plastic EXCLUSIVE:TALO EXCLUSIVE They Also have 4 with blued finish and adjustable sights for the same price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Bruce Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Trailrider #896 said: Take a look at a Whitney Navy or Spiller & Burr loading levers. IMHO, Ruger should have called the ROA a "Super Whitney". spiller and burr, you're right... i dont know why i was thinking rogers and spencer... R&S did that ugly thing that looks like S&W rejected it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Spiller & Burr replicas used to be available from Dixie Gun Works...maybe still are...I haven't looked lately. I'm not sure if the Whitney Navy was available in replica or not. The original S&B was a Confederate knock-off of the Whitney, the main difference being the Whitney had a steel frame and there was more of a gap between the front of the cylinder and the frame. The Whitney Navy was designed for Remington by Fordyce Beals, who also designed the Remington-Beals, New Model Remington Army, and others. I had an original Whitney Navy, and the thing would foul very quickly. OTOH, a replica Spiller & Burr worked fine for three or four cylinder-fulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: One available at Tooele Shooting Supply, LLC Only $899 They Also have 4 with blued finish and adjustable sights for the same price IMHO, the 7 1/2" barrel is a big mistake. I wonder if Ruger took CAS shooters opinions into their thinking. I see the blue ones have adjustable sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 36 minutes ago, Yul Lose said: IMHO, the 7 1/2" barrel is a big mistake. I wonder if Ruger took CAS shooters opinions into their thinking. I see the blue ones have adjustable sights. Oh? Their pictures and descriptions show fixed sights on both a 5-½ & 7-½" model. Just the RUBP7 model has the adjustable sights. I'd contact your Lipsey's dealer for what an actual delivered price would be... and get to ordering, these are a limited run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 On 10/10/2017 at 3:54 PM, Dantankerous said: It's just a mortgage payment per revolver! No big deal... I could by three and still not match my mortgage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Rock Drifter Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 19 hours ago, Buffalo Dick, SASS #12880 said: They list two models, both with fixed sights, a 5 1/2" in blue and a 7 1/2" in stainless. In the "product details" they list both as having a transfer bar safety ! They are listed as Talo exclusives. Wonder if they'll call them Ruger New Old Armies? There's another edition listed on gun broker. "Factory new in box condition. Ruger Old Army. .45 Cal Cap/Ball black powder revolver. 7.5" barrel. Blued finish. Fixed front/rear sights. Nice wood grips with Ruger inlays. Includes lock, documentation, and tool for operation - all in a hardshell case. TALO edition special run. Comes as shown. (Note: Add 3% for credit cards.) " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Bruce Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 talo still isnt showing them on their site... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totes Magoats Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I found this today. Shows 1 in stock @ $899.00 http://tooeleshootingsupply.com/shop/ruger-old-army-blackpowder-45-cal-sa-cap-ball-revolver-7-5-barrel-stainless-talo-exclusive-ruger-1406/ Totes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Bob, 24229 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I do not think that SASS can drive the gun demand market very far now days, BUT if they still could! I would certainly be turning my head for a pair of SS 'New Model' Old Armys that was offered in the New Model Vaquero frame/grip size. I really like my New Vaqueros much better than the old ones I had in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil dogooder Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Two at the local toy store today 929.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron "Ironhead" Smith Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 On 10/10/2017 at 5:54 PM, Dantankerous said: It's just a mortgage payment per revolver! No big deal... What is this mortgage of which you speak? I do not have one of those, should I get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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