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H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619

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Some commentary in other threads has "inspired" me to start this one.

 

Believe it or not, it is possible to obtain a shootable Colt on the used market for less than a thousand dollars.  They are rare, and often either ugly, refinished, or both, but they are out there.  And I am specifically NOT talking about .22s!  I am talking everything from .32-20 to .45 Colt. 

 

So with that in mind, here is the "challenge."  If you've got a Colt that you got for $999.99 or less, tell us about it!  Post a pic!  And above all, have fun.

 

(Real Colts only, and no 22s)

 

I'll start the ball rolling.

 

Here is my 2nd Generation in .45 Colt.  I got it for $700 about two years ago.  Has almost no finish left.   According to Colt, it was made in 1971.

 

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And this is a 1st Generation .44-40.  As you can see, this one was, according to the seller, "badly chromed" and as such cost me $500 earlier this year.   I do find the gold hammer and ejector housing curious.   I may letter this one.  Colt says it was made in 1881.

 

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Oh yeah...   About 10 years or so ago, I saw a 1st Gen .44 Special that had been reblued with pearl grips at the Hartford Connecticut Cabelas for $700.   I am still kicking myself for not buying that one.

 

 

Anyone else care to share?

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Well this might be cheating a little. I bought this first gen from 1927 for $1200. But it came with real pearl grips that I traded for a 100X beaver hat. Hat was worth at least $800, so really I got it for $400. Does that count? 

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I guess so.  :)

 

 

As long as this does...

 

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This is a 2nd Generation Dragoon, I got it for $600.   Even with the cost of the conversion cylinder from Taylors ($280) it's still under that limit.

 

Of course, I recognize that this some disagreement over if the 2nd Gen cap & ball Colts are "real" Colts or not.

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A pair of 3rd Gens that I bought new... I paid $325 for the bottom one in 1974.  It was stolen in 1982, and the insurance could only find a 7-½" gun to replace it, I wouldn't accept it, and they had it cut to 4-¾" to match the one it was replacing... I paid $475 for the top one in 1994... it was a 7-½" gun that I had cut to 4-¾" to match the bottom.  The only personalization I've done is to identify them:

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Then there are the 2nd gen 1851 I use in Frontiersman... $450 for the "C" series one and $600 for the second, a "D" series. 

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Lastly is a 2nd Gen "Presentation" model I paid $380 for... It was perfect except someone had stripped the finish of the backstrap.

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It belongs to the better half:

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Howdy HK

 

I had to search around a bit to find the receipt, but my first Colt was this 2nd Gen made in 1968.

 

Not all the numbers matched on it, and somebody had removed all the blue in an effort to 'antique' it. The dealer, who was very honest, sold it to me for $680.

 

It is still my favorite, it shows up at almost every match.

 

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All cost $1000.0 or less except for the nickel 4 3/4" .357 ($1250.00 new) next to the Python. I traded a 1st gen SAA  that I gave $125.00 for back around 1977 for the Python. The two 7 1/2" .45's with Sambar stag grips I gave $975.00 ea when I 1st started SASS, and the nickel 7 1/2" .45 I gave $725.00 about the same time.(1996ish). The blue 7 1/2" is a Frontier Six Shooter 44-40 (still unfired) that I bought 2 years ago for $1000.00 even. the blue 5 1/2" .357 next to the nickel 4 3/4" gave $900.00 about 6 years ago. Top right is a Lightning nickel mfg 1886 was $500.00 shipped around 3 years ago. Middle Lightning was $600.00 shipped. Left Lightning I trade a knife I made for it. Detective Spl. $400.00. Woodsman Match Target, mfg, 1977 w/wood grips I traded even for with a std. Woodsman . The Woodsman Match Target, mfg 1957, w/plastic grips I bought at Gander Mtn around 2010 for $400.00. The 1860 2nd gen I gave $250.00 new around 20 years ago(still unfired). The bottom 1851 2nd gen was $500.00 3 years ago(still unfired). The upper 1851 2nd gen I bought in 1976 for $125.00. The 3rd Model Dragoon 2nd gen was $600.00 (still unfired). The Gold Cup I think I've got around $400.00 in it, I bought it sometime in the 1980's. The Govt. Model $600.00 in 2006.  The lower New Frontier .22 $125.00 new 1975, maybe. The upper New Frontier $500.00 in 2014.

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6 hours ago, Texas John Ringo, SASS #10138 said:

All cost $1000.0 or less except for the nickel 4 3/4" .357 ($1250.00 new) next to the Python. I traded a 1st gen SAA  that I gave $125.00 for back around 1977 for the Python. The two 7 1/2" .45's with Sambar stag grips I gave $975.00 ea when I 1st started SASS, and the nickel 7 1/2" .45 I gave $725.00 about the same time.(1996ish). The blue 7 1/2" is a Frontier Six Shooter 44-40 (still unfired) that I bought 2 years ago for $1000.00 even. the blue 5 1/2" .357 next to the nickel 4 3/4" gave $900.00 about 6 years ago. Top right is a Lightning nickel mfg 1886 was $500.00 shipped around 3 years ago. Middle Lightning was $600.00 shipped. Left Lightning I trade a knife I made for it. Detective Spl. $400.00. Woodsman Match Target, mfg, 1977 w/wood grips I traded even for with a std. Woodsman . The Woodsman Match Target, mfg 1957, w/plastic grips I bought at Gander Mtn around 2010 for $400.00. The 1860 2nd gen I gave $250.00 new around 20 years ago(still unfired). The bottom 1851 2nd gen was $500.00 3 years ago(still unfired). The upper 1851 2nd gen I bought in 1976 for $125.00. The 3rd Model Dragoon 2nd gen was $600.00 (still unfired). The Gold Cup I think I've got around $400.00 in it, I bought it sometime in the 1980's. The Govt. Model $600.00 in 2006.  The lower New Frontier .22 $125.00 new 1975, maybe. The upper New Frontier $500.00 in 2014.

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I think we should be adjusting for inflation haha. That’s a mighty fine collection. 

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1st gen .45 dating to 1876. I took it as partial trade on a boat about fifteen years ago from a man whose father, a deputy sheriff, found it, along with the holster, under the mattress of a dead drifter in a hotel room in Butte around 1931. The front sight is fashioned from a segment of a silver Liberty half-dollar.

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I bought my first .45 Colt single action in 1973, after I got out of the military.  It cost me $235.00, and it came in a 'stagecoach' box too.  Now, a new old stock stagecoach box is going for $275.00 and up.  Go figure. 

In the 1980's I bought two nickel plated, unfired, Colt single actions in .45, for $950.00, at a gun show in Dallas, but they did not have any boxes or papers. 

I paid around $1,400.00 for my last new Colt I bought, back around 2011 or so. 

Haven't bought one since they decided the magical minimum cost for them will be over $2,000.00.  I will just be content with what I have.

 

My Two Bits.

W.K.

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Here is an .45 SAA manufactured in 1876 that I bought about 4 years ago for $600.  It was originally a 7.5 inch but the barrel has been cut to 5 inches.  It didn’t have grips and was in pretty rough mechanical shape when I got it.  I made the one piece grips and replaced a lot of the mechanicals.  I have never shot it because the cylinder is not in great shape.  I have been thinking of ordering a factory letter and having it restored back to factory spec.  

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Here is an .45 SAA manufactured in 1876 that I bought about 4 years ago for $600.  It was originally a 7.5 inch but the barrel has been cut to 5 inches.  It didn’t have grips and was in pretty rough mechanical shape when I got it.  I made the one piece grips and replaced a lot of the mechanicals.  I have never shot it because the cylinder is not in great shape.  I have been thinking of ordering a factory letter and having it restored back to factory spec.

Ya know, there's a 1 in 11,000 chance that our two revolvers are consecutive. B)

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5 minutes ago, J Bar Binks, #47015 said:

 

 

Ya know, there's a 1 in 11,000 chance that our two revolvers are consecutive. B)

 

Yeah, I thought yours looked pretty familiar.  I will send you the serial

number in a pm to see if we hit the jackpot!

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18 minutes ago, Chili Ron said:

Howdy Doc, 

Just too bad that piece cant talk about what its seen.

Restore if you like but I sure like em like that.

Best

CR

 

 

I like old guns as well, but there comes a point when they either get fixed or continue to decline.  This one is on the edge of becoming an object de art, rather than a gun.  I like to save guns like this and bring them back to being useful.  This one was so inexpensive and buggered that restoration would not be a bad idea.  

 

On the other hand, if the factory letter says it’s historic, I am not touching it.

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Can't find a picture right now, but I have a pair of 1860 Army Colt Black Powder revolvers made in the late '70s.  Cased set with detachable shoulder stock, flask and bullet mold.  Some damn fool took the cavalry commemorative plate off the outside of the box.  Gave $400 for the set at a pawn shop.  

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So, to keep this thread going, here is a second generation 1860 Army that I bought for $199.  When I got it, the front sight had been buggered by a previous owner.  He added a bizarre extension to the front sight and marked up the barrel in the process.  I repaired it and replaced the sight.  Now you can’t tell it was ever done.

 

The interesting question is what the gun actually is.  It is not nickle.  The sharp eyed will notice that this gun has a fluted cylinder.  It also has absolutely no finish and appears never to have had a finish.  Colt did make some 2nd generation stainless guns, but to the best of my research they never made a stainless fluted cylinder 1860.  I have heard that colt sold some guns in the white for engraving, but I have not confirmed this.  I need to send off for a factory letter.  

 

This is a lovely, superbly timed gun that feals like an original. I would love to have it engraved.

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That would be a long flute too.  I think I read on the colt forum that those were more rare (though that may only apply to peacemakers).  Forgive my ignorance, but if the gun had been in the white all these years, wouldn't it be rusted up pretty good?  Where was it being kept? 

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On ‎9‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 1:38 PM, Texas John Ringo, SASS #10138 said:

 

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Looking at this picture, my 1st thought was "Man, you have a lot of guns!" But noting your location, I'm guessing that is about average for a Texan.;)

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4 hours ago, Ramblin Gambler said:

That would be a long flute too.  I think I read on the colt forum that those were more rare (though that may only apply to peacemakers).  Forgive my ignorance, but if the gun had been in the white all these years, wouldn't it be rusted up pretty good?  Where was it being kept? 

 

Good question.  I have it covered in grease (which you can see as smudges on the gun).  It was not rusty when I got it and is very sharp and clean.  It does not show any evidence of ever having been shot or handled much.   It came from a collection of second generations that were all sold at the same time at my local shop.  The other guns were claimed to be as new (and had prices to match) but were slightly beat up from handling and shooting and some showed traces of light rust.  As such, they were over priced.  This one was a steal because of the front sight issue, which I fixed.  By the way, this involved filing and sanding out nicks in the barrel and there was no trace of nickle plating. 

 

They call these fluted cylinders on the 1860 , most 1860s don't have any flutes at all.   The fluted cylinders were found on the earliest production 1860s and quite a few fluted cylinder 1860s were acquired by the Confederacy before the start of the war.  As I said, I need to order a letter for it.  If it is a stainless steel gun, that would be great as they are rare and expensive.  If it is in the white, that would be even better (and rarer).   Either way, I couldn't leave it on the shelf for $199.

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Back in the late 60's , the Colt catalog price for a SA was $140 which was what I paid for a 43/4 nickel 357, my next one was a nickel 45 for $215 , expensive at the time, shortly after the price jumped to $600 because the SA was to be dropped from the catalog, then because of demand , the 3rd gen came out at around $500.After all that the price just went up and up. Also I had a 22 frontier scout for $65, which I stupidly sold . Know the old saying, HINDSIGHT.

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