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Doc Coles SASS 1188

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  1. Interesting and nice without all the recent Winchester “improvements”, but there are much better guns for 44-40. When I first started, I had a 1894 trapper in .45 colt. It was a terrible gun for CAS. Pretty often I would cycle the action fast enough to throw live cartridges off the elevator and right out the top of the action. I sold it and bought an 1873 and never looked back. That was 30+ years ago.
  2. My engraved second gen with checked one piece ivories is called “the barbecue gun”, but other than that, For the most part any long gun I am carrying is called “Betsy” and any handgun is called “Roscoe.” Makes things simple when you have a bunch of them. On the other hand, if the gun came from a friend or family, especially one that has passed I often refer to it as theirs, e.g “Carl’s Sharps” or “EP’s Colt”.
  3. He was a great guy, sorry to hear of his passing.
  4. The 1902 7mm Mauser rolling blocks are cool guns. They were better heat treated and stronger than the earlier variants (which are quite strong in their own right). They have an interesting extractor for the rimless cartridge. As long as the gun is in good shape, you should be able to shoot it. Check the chamber and the headspace and load accordingly. I had a nice 7mm rolling block 25-30 years ago and regret selling it. They made some of these late guns in 30-40 krag. This would be the cat’s meow, but they are quite rare and I have never seen one in person. I make do with my 50-70 NY state model.
  5. Hence the reference to selling it... My point was if it’s worth more than other guns because of the number, sell it, buy another gun that is not worth the premium and pocket the profit. It’s a Ruger, there are lots of them around so you shouldn’t have a problem finding another. If it turns out that it’s not worth a premium, then forget it. I have a hard time wrapping my head around collecting Rugers, but I hear there are folks that do. It might be worth checking.
  6. No, at the worst you pay good money to devalue a gun you could have sold for a profit. But hey, it’s a Ruger so, not that big a deal .
  7. Over time, the ends of the firing pins can become deformed so that the swell up and can’t go all the way forward. When this happens you start to get light primer strikes. Pull the pins and measure them to see if they are mushroomed. If they are, it’s best to replace them, but failing that you can stone them to get rid of the swelling. I have had to do this on several guns.
  8. If you have any interest in shooting BP, the reproduction Schofields are a poor choice. They lengthened the cylinder to make them shoot 45lc, which leads to fouling with BP. Nifty gun, and well made, but I sold mine 25 years ago.
  9. I have no problem with nostalgia, I shoot SASS. I also have no problem paying more for a Colt than an Italian gun (I own 10 Colt SAAs and a bunch of other Colts ). What I don’t like is when Colt makes a poorly fitted and finished gun and charges high prices for them. In the 80s I bought my first colt brand new, the first time I cocked it it locked up. It had a lot of problems. When I complained to colt, they said it was a collector piece and not intended to be shot! It took the more than a year to fix it and they ended up sending me a different gun. Poor business. I hope they are doing better now. I also think saying that Colt is anti gun because they don’t offer the AR anymore is silly. They can’t make money doing it, so they quit. No problem.
  10. Glad you like them. I looked over one of the new Cobras and it looked a lot like the Trooper MK V action. The older action used in the old Officers Model, the original Trooper, and the Python was smoother. But they cost a lot to produce. I look forward to seeing the new python.
  11. The old shells were sealed with sodium silicate. I got some from the pharmacy and it works a treat. A couple of drops over the card glues it in. I have been using it for years.
  12. Very interesting. Reading the descriptions from colt and the limited reviews available so far, it appears that the lock work is different than the originals. The description says it has a different trigger design, a different rear sight design, and the cylinder has much larger and differently shaped ramps to the bolt slots. As mentioned above, the old guns were hand fitted, which was part of why the lock work was so good. It would be great if they were able to keep the original lock work design but reduce the need for hand fitting through CNC production. It would be a shame if they used the later lock work. I love Colts and have a lot of them, but the company has made some pretty poor business decisions. They gave the double action revolver market to S&W, the SAA market to the Italians, and the 1911 market to too many makers to name. For years they produced poor quality guns at very high prices trusting that people would buy them because they were Colts. Then, they all but turned their back on the civilian market because they had military contracts for the M16. I honestly want them to succeed, but to do that they need to produce good quality guns that meet the needs of the buyer and not rely solely on the Colt name. I hope the new python fits that bill.
  13. Here you go, https://www.308ammo.com/41-Short-Rimfire-p/na41rf.htm I did round it up $2.01, but shipping would have put it well over $250. They are currently out of stock, which would seem to indicate that someone bought them at this price. I make no claim that this is the “going price” and I am sure that better deals can be had in the right circumstances. But thanks for the snarky comment.
  14. I have worked in gun stores and owned a gun shop for years and have never heard of restrictions for loaded ammunition. But, if that is actually an issue, use bp substitute. Because the old calibers are chambered in old guns, they would have to be loaded to low pressures. Navy Arms loaded their 41 rf a little too hot and it was known to crack the hinges of Remington derringers. A lower pressure/velocity round would be better. i have seen a lot of old rimfire handguns that were cheap and in great shape. Since rimfire ammo has not been widely available since the start of WWII they have not been shot in a while.
  15. And bp loading is a problem because? I would add .41 rimfire to the wish list. The old navy arms .41 rf ammo is going for as much as $250 a box now. This would seem to indicate a demand. I would be happy to be able to buy it for $40-50 a box to be able to shoot my old Remington derringer. There are a lot of .41 rf guns around.
  16. My apologies, the SA at the end threw me. Yes, yours is a third gen. Much less valuable than a 2nd. Easier to get a barrel for as well, but 38-40 was not in the third gen lineup until the more recent production, so 3rd gen 38-40 parts are not common. I still think selling your gun and buying a 38-40 is the best thing to do. Even if it costs you another $500-700 above what you get for yours, you would be ahead as it will cost that much in parts and smithing to do yours. Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.
  17. I advise selling the gun you have and buying a 38-40. Lots of folks like the .357 since it shoots .38 spl., so you shouldn’t have a hard time finding a buyer. 38-40 guns are around. If you are going to change the caliber of the one you have, replace the barrel and cylinder, if you can find the parts. Not always easy to do. .357 and 38-40 are different bore diameters so you would have to bore and recut the rifeling then bore out and recut the chamber. Altering the barrel and cylinder would devalue your gun (which is a desirable second generation) and cost a good bit. Personally, I try not to pay lots of money to people to devalue a good gun, but to each his own.
  18. In the wrong hands, they can ruin guns in flash. Even where they are useful, they are not as good as a foredom tool, which gives you much better control.
  19. I presented a paper at a conference a while back about a collection of gun parts recovered from an excavation in a Native village on the north slope of Alaska. Aside from parts from an 1866, all the parts were from surplus guns found in the period Bannerman’s catalogue. Research showed that whaling ships that came to hunt whales would buy surplus guns and ammunition to trade to the Native whalers for baleen. Alaska Natives were very creative in keeping these guns working. I have seen reloading tools made from walrus ivory and bullet molds hand made from slate in walrus ivory mold handles. This gun would have been on the surplus market at the time of the gold rush, so it’s possible it came here that way. Based on my examination of historic photographs (I have been pondering a book on firearms in Alaska) single shot rifles were not common among whites who came north during the rush. You see a lot of Winchester 1894s and 1895s, with a good representation of 1886s in the photographs. The single shot’s claim to fame during westward expansion was that it could handle more powerful cartridges than the available lever actions. Once the 1886 was invented, they lost their advantage.
  20. Yep, it has the half cock safety. It’s an interesting feature developed for this model. I have the barrel and action out of the stock to be cleaned up. With the armory bright finish, that’s a pretty straight forward job.
  21. Yeah, you wonder. Some interesting things make their way up here, but I also have to buy things on the wire.
  22. Well, I love them for what they are. A hollow based bullet helps with the early 50-70s as there was a lot of variation in bore diameter. But heck, I have a lot of other rifles to shoot, including a Shiloh sharps in 50-70. I don’t need this one to be a tack driver.
  23. I dropped by the gun shop the other day just after they put out an 1872 New York State Militia rolling block in 50-70. The bore is bright and strong but there was some light rust on the gun, which was delivered in the white. Nothing too serious and it should clean up well. Always fun to have a new gun and this is my third 50-70.
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