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  1. You could also look for a replacement original stock from ebay, gunbroker or other online sources. Not as cheap as refinishing, but easier and you will have a factory finish. It can take some time to find wood that matches the condition of your gun.
  2. Used em for decades. Buy all they will sell you.
  3. I much prefer hand engraving. Using a laser to try to duplicate hand engraving patterns looks odd. But, in the 19th century there were some guns that were etched. Since lasers leave a finish much like etching, I would love to see someone duplicate original etching patters with a laser.
  4. The early 1st generations were not built with good steels. They also have smaller cylinders and are very thin at the bottom of the bolt notches. An 1876 manufactured SAA I have is so thin that over the last 144 years, the bolt clicking into the slot actually hammered a flat spot visible on the inside of each chamber. You can buy (at great cost) properly dimensioned 1st generation cylinders made of 4140 steel, or you could fit a later cylinder. In either case, the frame will still be relatively soft and would not suffer smokeless loads. I would recommend sticking with BP. I have some early guns that I shoot occasionally, but always with bp. My pal Hangtown Frye shot cas for years using an original cavalry model and an original artillery model (which he got from me!). It used to freak people out when they realized what they were! But, that was before the modern era, when the sport was not so hard on guns. In my opinion, the early colts are worth too much money to risk. If you want one you can really use, I would recommend buying one of the recent production guns. They have excellent steels, are beautifully made, and are a joy to shoot.
  5. Personally, I just use an original style colt flask for powder, a ted cash revolver capper, and I carry the balls in a leather pouch. I load with the rammer on the gun. I never saw the need to carry around more things than required. But, to each his own.
  6. interestingly, the collector car community as coming around to the gun collectors way of thinking. As the saying goes, “it’s only original once”. Car collectors are now paying top dollar for unrestored rare cars in original condition (even some with significant cosmetic issues) that would have been instantly sent to restoration in years past. In the gun field, an original gun that survives in good condition is worth more than a restored one because it is rare and “real”. A restored gun, while lovely and valuable is not as rare and lacks the authenticity of the original. It’s no longer solely the work of the manufacturer, but includes the work of the restorer, is dimensionally smaller (due to the prep work required to get a good finish), and usually has a lot of new parts. in addition, the work has to be very good to be indistinguishable from an original. You see a lot of guns (and high end cars for that matter) that are over restored. Having said that, I have personally restored guns (I am a smith), but I would never touch a gun with original finish or that had not been significantly damaged in some way. I know Turnbull takes a different view and he does lovely work. To each his own. As for cars, I have a 1926 model T speedster with a mahogany skiff body under construction in the garage. I am cursed by having two expensive hobbies! Back to the question about folks to do the work on your colt. You might look at Dave Lanara. He only works on first generation SAAs, does very nice work, is less expensive than some of the others named, and is a good guy to work with. Do a google search for him and you will find his site.
  7. This is a perfect candidate for restoration. Someone has already messed it up so a good quality restoration can only improve it. On the other hand, it won’t be cheap, so you should do the math to see that it is worth it. At least you are in it at a good price.
  8. I am always working on some projects and they have all been fun. I rebuilt a clapped out Spencer Carbine years before reproductions were available so I could have a shooter (made pretty much everything but the action). I did a fully engraved 1956 Colt that started out as a $900 gray gun with half the trigger guard half filed off of and the hammer checkering screwed up. I did the metal work and replaced some parts, my dad engraved it, Turnbull did the finish, and nutmeg made the grips (when it was legal). It was expensive but worth it. Right now I am restoring a Bannerman Spencer shotgun so I can shoot it. Not a sass gun, but I love the Guns of Chris Spencer. I have included a shot of it in progress. I am making a few more small parts before it goes off to get color cased and blued. I have a 1905 44-40 7.5 inch SAA that was refinished in a pretty bland way by Christie’s that belonged to my good friend Pawnee Bill that I am thinking of refinishing. I also have an 1876 manufactured 45 SAA that I have been thinking about having restored to factory spec (the barrel has been sawed off). If I restored the 1876, I would probably have the work done by Dave Lanara or Turnbull. A big money project, but I got the gun for $600.
  9. The title of the original post should have included “up to a point.” Bad gear makes things a lot harder, but the best gear will not make a poor shooter great. However, I agree that there are some guns that should not be recommended for this sport. That does not mean that they are outright bad guns (though some really are) but that they are just not good choices for the sport. But hey, everyone has a dream and they can do what they like in this sport as in life.
  10. I love John Wayne, but the remake is a better movie. Kim Darby and Glen Campbell were pretty bad in the original and the look of the film was nowhere near as good as the remake.
  11. Well, that does not exactly set a high bar. Writing his memoirs really demonstrated the character of Grant (as if his wartime service was not enough). He was basically broke and he worked tirelessly on his memoirs while dying of cancer in an effort to make money to support his family after he was gone. He finished the work very shortly before he died in 1885. The memoir turned out to be a great success and, as he hoped the money it brought left his family financially secure.
  12. If you want a .357 1892, I would recommend a Browning B92. Very nice guns made by Miroku without the tang safety. They were built in the 1980s in several grades, but they show up on the gun auction sites, quite often new in the box. A Rossi will be cheaper, but the Browning is a much nicer gun. I have an 1886 carbine in 45-70, and an 1895 in 30-06 built by Browning around the same time and they are very well built.
  13. Your delay probably has nothing to do with NICS and everything to do with the state police. As others have said, the actual NICS works pretty well and fast. Some states have interjected themselves into the process, primarily so they can charge a fee. This tends to slow down the process (often intentionally as they seem to believe that the only reason anyone would buy a gun is because they are mad and need to kill some unsuspecting innocent person right now).
  14. Big lube sounds like a good way to go. I have always used SPG for my bp loads. The wax lubes just don’t cut it. I have never used bp substitutes.
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