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  1. One of the things you should know before you buy any 38-55 are the chamber and bore dimensions. 38-55 is an old round and Some modern makers have used the chamber dimensions for the old paper patch round. This can cause accuracy issues. Likewise some of the bores vary in size enough to require different bullet diameters. I have a winchester in 38-55 which takes a longer case (there are two lengths currently available) and bigger bullet. I don’t know what the various makers are doing now but I would want to know before I bought a gun and especially before I bought reloading components.
  2. In my experience, the Uberti long guns are quite good out of the box. I currently have 7 of them in various models and calibers and they all work fine. The springs that come in them are a bit stout and the screws are in tight from the factory, but the guns work fine. I bought my first Uberti 1873 about 30 years ago and shot SASS with it for 20 something years before I had to replace the trigger due to a worn sear. I did replace the Uberti springs with original Winchester springs when I bought it and properly adjusted it, but that is all. If you want to tune your rifle up, there are more parts and experience out there for the Uberti than anything else. I my experience, the Rossi and the Henry brand gun’s are a waste of time and money, because they can only be taken so far. I think the Rossi 1892 is a nice strong little gun. I have sold a lot of the Rossi’s but only own original Winchester 1892s. The 1892 design is just not as good a design for SASS as the 1873 (though it is a better/stronger gun for just about everything else). personally, I wouldn’t pay a dime for a Henry. Miroku makes very nice guns. I have a browning 1886 and 1895 made by them and they are both very nice. I have handled a number of the new winchester 1873s and they are nice. I just have not bought one because I already own three Uberti and two original 1873s. Kind of hard to justify laying out another $1200.
  3. The guy specifically asked for opinions and people gave them No one said he can’t do what he wants. Not sure why you are getting bent out of shape over this.
  4. To each his own, but I have seen too many nice guns that people have paid good money to ruin. Chrome plated Lugers, colt single actions with adjustable sights and vent ribs added, nice target 1885 Winchester’s torn apart to convert to weird wildcat cartridges. A real waste. I always advise folks not to spend hard earned money to destroy the value of good guns. If that’s not saying something nice, then so be it.
  5. Not sure this is the best idea. The .348 has a rim diameter of .610 and the 30-40 is .515, which means you would probably have some issues with the conversion beyond the barrel. On top of that, I would not ruin a 71 for such a project. My advice is enjoy the 30-40 in the guns it was designed for and buy yourself a nice 86, 71, or both and enjoy them as well. Better than spending a bunch of money to devalue a nice gun and create something that isn’t worth anything.
  6. Be very careful here. If it is a rifle receiver, assembling it as a pistol will make it a short barreled rifle which is an NFA weapon.
  7. I understand that some folks take issue with dressing up in western gear, but in my opinion, if someone is unwilling to meet the dress requirements, minimal as they are, they are unlikely to be happy in SASS. SASS was started in response to more serious shooting sports. In many ways, dressing western is the key to our sport. It requires you to join in and not take yourself too seriously. Abandoning that would make SASS a very different sport.
  8. The major issues facing the sport are high cost and demographics. The gear for this sport has never been cheap, especially if you want guns that are competitive. Some have suggested that we have a one handgun class, which could help some but does not do that much to lower costs. The demographics are just as daunting. Most younger folks today did not grow up on westerns. Fewer of them are shooters and when they are most are interested in modern guns. So if they shoot competitively they are more interested in sports like IDPA or three gun shooting. I some ways we are swimming against the tide. In my opinion, increasing membership is done at the personal level by building relationships and bringing people into the fold. Good public relations and increasing visibility is the place to start, but where the rubber meets the road is personal contact with perspective shooters and support to get them involved while they get their gear together. Personal relationships are what makes SASS strong. just my thoughts.
  9. Based on the curve on the back of the block and the shape of the trigger guard/lever it looks like a Stevens Favorite. The small barrel size would argue for it being a .22 but it could be a model 44, which was a slightly larger version for small game center fire cartridges. Here is a picture of my son’s Model 1894 .22 Favorite at the same angle for comparison.
  10. Interesting gun but I expect that by lengthening the cylinder as they did with the Schofield and Russian to fit .45 lc, they will have issues shooting real BP. Too bad they felt the need to “improve” them. .44 Russian or Schofield would have Kept the dimensions the same as the originals and allowed you to shoot BP without jamming the cylinders.
  11. The gun would be popular as a shooter since it’s a 9mm. You could submerge it in Hoppes No9 for a long time (months) and see what happens. The nickel does not look that thick and it does not look like it was polished before it was plated Soaking it in Hoppes for a few months might remove the nickel. If you were lucky, there might be original finish under there. In any case, Hoppes wouldn’t hurt the steel.
  12. Slick, you would have to show that these pistols were produced with a factory nickel finish and that this gun met all the criteria for factory nickel guns to be able to sell it as factory original finish. The appearance of the nickel is irrelevant if the guns were never produced with a factory nickel finish. I am sorry to say that a non-factory nickel finish luger would be rated far below 60% finish and have no collector value. At best, it would be valued as a shooter. People have stripped nickel finish from plated Lugers and had them refinished, but this is costly to do right and not generally worth it for most guns because when they are done they are still worth a lot less than a gun with factory finish. lugers are a very specialized and tricky field of collecting. People can get in pretty deep if they don’t do their research.
  13. The “Rust” marking on the safety of your Luger makes it a gun produced for the Dutch (“Rust” is “Safe” in Dutch and is only seen on Dutch pistols). There were several contracts to produce Lugers for the Dutch government and the Dutch East Indies military in the early 20th century. You would have to do a very careful analysis of the gun’s features and markings to determine exactly which contract it is. A lot of these were captured by the Japanese during the fall of the Dutch East Indies during WWII. I am sorry to say that, based on what I have read, the Dutch pistols were not factory nickel plated. For some reason, a significant number of Lugers brought to the US after WWI and WWII were plated, which unfortunately severely damages their value.
  14. Also, most calipers have flats on the part that comes in contact with the part measured, which means that they read slightly undersized when measuring the inside of a hole. This property is magnified as the holes get smaller.
  15. No worries, I too have a soft spot for real Henry rifles and copies. I own an engraved uberti and navy arms and an engraved uberti improved Henry (1866). One Henry is engraved after the one owned by a relative Capt. Samuel Hymer who was awarded the Medal of Honor during the civil war. The other is engraved to my taste and the 1866 is engraved to match a set of three that came out of South America.
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