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  1. Thanks, I appreciate that. But not wanting a Colt Bisley hammer. USFA made hundreds of Bisley styled hammers to fit their SAA style guns. The hammer I am looking for is USFA made and drops right in to a USFA SAA. Hard to come by these days. But not the best SASS hammer. Looks real similar to the one on the far right. and installed in a USFA gun
  2. I have cash, or new USFA cylinder barrels combos, and parts including new hammers I can swap or do partial trades/cash with. Let me know. Thanks.
  3. Sorry to here the reason for cleaning and selling. Got a picture of the hat?
  4. All the Rodeo IIs were completely USA made guns. They were great guns. Jim @ Long Hunter made the into magical guns. Heck of a deal on these.
  5. PM sent. I've had a few pairs of Rodeos done. By a number of different engravers. I can recommend without reservation John Adams Sr. of Adams and Adams Engraving. Pretty as they are, I simply like how they shoot
  6. Thanks. And likely by the look of them and the late B serial numbers, all USA parts. I've bought and sold lots of them. Wondered why they were still here. Must be the cowboy recession. Rodeos are easy enough to turn into this.....and they typically shoot. Really shoot. The 38 group below is from a hand held rest at 25 yards with the dot as the aiming point. Good luck on the sale.
  7. Nice guns. I'm interested. Can you tell us what is the serial number's letter prefix please?
  8. I suspect a lot of folk that have been shooting SASS awhile have both 38s and 45s. My suggestion is just make it easy on yourself and buy 38s up front and get in the game. You may decide to try something different (no matter what you start with) later on. Most do if they stick around for long. I have both the bigger calibers and currently shoot 32-20 often as not.
  9. But it is a Ruger...….you knew they weren't perfect when you bought it.
  10. To any self respecting machinist that should take may be 10 minutes with just hand tools to fix ,
  11. Alluded to but not specifically mentioned. Nothing in 20 gauge. One of the dumber things I did 25 years ago was buy my wife a 20 gauge dbl for SASS. She still has it and I still regret it. Should have bought her a 12 gauge. 20s are smaller and lighter guns but a 12 kicks less with the right ammo.
  12. Ya I bit my tongue some there waiting to see how long that yarn was gonna get. I've been writing about a specific gendre of handgun ( BBQ gun) that is often (as seen here) credited to guns where the term is simply being misused. With a Ph.D in history I am sure you see that often enough. With your current advocation I might suggest a trip to the Museums in Waco and OKC. Always fun. Weren't a lot of folks kicking around IT and the Texas border during those time frames. If the ages added up likely as not our GGFs might well have known each other at least casually.
  13. Understandable......when you are from CA, TN or AK what might be acceptable as a so called BBQ gun even when they clearly aint
  14. Don't think you are getting the drift on the idea behind "BBQ gun". Texas, NM, Arizona, Colorado, LA, can be included in that "Texas" tradition. The Texas tradition was greatly influence by the art and the animosity at the Mexican/US border almost since Texas gained its independence. The 1911 might be the working gun but it wasn't ever the primary gun on the border by any means. More likely a split between the SAA and the 1911 even up to the '50s, as dbl action wheel guns made inroads to both back at least 1890 and prior. Easy for non gun folks to get a "presentation Colt" like the Colt factory engraved 7.5" guns that were at the 1876 World's fair with a turn of the last Century working BBQ gun to the uneducated. The 7.5" Colt was the Single Action Army for a long time. It was a good bit of time before the shorter guns...first 5.5" and then the 4 3/4" guns became the most popular selling Colts. "Presentation" Colts were around long before the BBQ guns started showing up in the late 1800s and early 1900s. My Great Grandfather's engraved pair of Colts were never, ever to my recollection called BBQ guns. Only name I ever heard them called were "the engraved Colts". He was born in 1860 and ran cows with my Grandfather (born in 1890) in Texas, IT and then OK and Colorado. Nice guns but they weren't considered or called BBQ guns. Just "engraved Colts". If they had been Lawmen, that pair might well have been considered their BBQ guns. (4 3/4", 45, C engraved, nickel and pearl) Both men carried in the open on the ranch. Both carried concealed in town. GGP carried a US Army 1911 later in life. GP carried a %.5" Bisley. I do appreciate the fact you are at least interested in looking into what a BBQ actually is despite your convictions. No clue where you are getting your history. Open carry was pretty much outlawed in towns but the days of the cattle drives (1867 on.. or there abouts). Hand guns were carried by working drovers on the trail (conversions or cap and ball at first then cartridge guns later to those that could afford them) for a number of obvious reasons. One high on the list was to shoot a sour cow willing to put a horn in your horse or you. But carrying guns in the open in the cow towns/shipping centers (or most towns) despite what the romance and dime store novels tell ya, was outlawed early on. Shoulder holsters were poplar leather every where. Many big outfits from Texas to Montana outlawed their hands from carrying a handgun at all. You mentioned a personal Texas to California connection. Once livestock fences became mandatory in California (1866 and more so in 1870) the California open range was done. The big herds moved on to the Great Basin where cattle can be found still worked in a rodear on open range and the Californio tradition of horsemanship never died out like it almost did in post WWII California.
  15. "You can call any gun a BBQ gun. It is still a free country. But calling a cow a bull, don't make it a bull." There are plenty of photos on the Internet of very nice guns. Few are worthy of the title..BBQ gun. And no need to look it up on the Internet to get a definition or find out who now makes a "Texas BBQ gun" Attributes of a true BBQ gunFull sized steel firearm that can easily be carried concealed on the hipwith few rare exceptions it a Colt 1911, Combat Commander or SAAthe exceptions are generally K frame S&Ws and the occasional HPIf you haven't seen a fancy version of the Model in the Texas Ranger Museum it aint a proper BBQ gungrips are Ivory, pewter, silver or pearl (no movie cowboy stag) style points for carved or engraved or gold inlaid gripsmaster C engraved or betternickel, gold or silver plate ( only a good deal of gold inlay work makes a blued gun a proper BBQ gun) what a BBQ gun is NOTIt is not a j frame revolverit is not a Sig, Glock or any modern 9mm/40 calit is not a 5.5" no matter how fancy or a 7.5" Colt SAAit is not a blued gun
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