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  1. Howdy Mature Eyes. I don't know how old you are. When you are young, the lens in your eye is flexible and can change focus to allow you to focus on objects at different distances. As we age the lens looses the ability to change shape to bring objects at different distances into focus. That is why so many folks need reading glasses as they get older, even though they can still see objects faraway in focus. I have been wearing glasses since I was six years old. I am blind as a bat nearsighted, cannot even get out of bed without my glasses. When you say Transitional lens, I think you mean progressive. In the old days, when I was a kid, if you got bifocals, there was a hard line across the lens where the bifocal was. The first pair of bifocals I had had the line halfway down the lens. I hated them, my eyes always went to the line, and it was very annoying. Been wearing progressive lenses for the last 30 years or so and I love them. There is no hard line separating the two magnifications, it is a gentle blend between the two magnifications. Some folks don't do well with progressive lenses. In order to focus at different distances you have to 'point you head' so the exact area of the lens lines up with your eyes to bring an object into focus. For instance, even though my correction is huge, the reading portion of my lenses are 2 diopters stronger than the rest of the lenses. So to read a book, I look through the bottom most part of the lenses, but to focus on a computer screen about 18 inches away I raise my head up a bit so I am looking through the blend between the full magnification and the reading portion. I took to head pointing with my progressive lenses right away, it was no problem. Other folks don't take to it so well. You will only know when you try some. See if you can go to the supermarket and try some inexpensive 'readers' with a correction of 2X. Try some with a hard line and see if you can find some without the hard line. See if you can tell what you will like before spending a lot on prescription glasses.
  2. "A few cycles of dummy rounds thru a Henry will telescope them pretty good if the crimp isn't right." I've been loading 44-40 for close to 20 years, and I never run my dummies through the action of a rifle more than a couple of times. The bullets will usually telescope into the cases after a couple of times through the action. Not a problem with a solid plug of Black Powder behind the bullet.
  3. Howdy First of all, not many shooters were loading their own ammunition in the 19th Century. So not much thought was given to primers. One of the early rounds to use Boxer primers was the 44-40 in 1873. The primers did not look much different than they do today. Most cowboys probably did not shoot more than one box of ammo in an entire year. Most simply bought a box of factory loaded cartridges in the local dry goods or hardware store. Very few, with the exception of the Buffalo hunters who were shooting a lot of buffalo at fairly long range, ever loaded their own ammo. The notes above about reloading a Sharps would be relevant to this. Here is a photo of some of the Benet Primed folded rim cartridges similar to what Doc Coles showed in his post. This style of priming was developed by Col. S.V Benet commander of Frankford Arsenal in the late 1860s. The two cartridges in the center are a Benet Primed 45 Colt and 45 Schofield. They are flanked by modern versions. Here is a photo showing the construction of the cartridges. The cup shaped plate inside the cartridge was called an Anvil Plate. It was crimped in place in the cartridge. Priming compound was deposited on the inside of the case. When struck by a firing pin, the priming compound was compressed between the base of the case and the Anvil Plate. This ignited the priming materiel. The spark generated came though the two holes in the Anvil Plate to ignite the charge of Black Powder. These cartridges could not be reloaded, once fired they were discarded. Here is a box of 12 45 Colt cartridges manufactured at the Frankford arsenal in 1874. Note how they could easily be mistaken for rimfire cartridges. A modern cartridge is on the right for comparison. Early 45-70 rounds were Benet primed too, that is one on the left in this photo. These rounds were developed for the early Trap Door Springfield rifles. Problems happened when the extractor ripped through the soft copper case, jamming the round in the chamber.
  4. Howdy Put that dremel tool away, more good guns have been ruined with dremel tools than probably anything else. I agree with the others. Your cartridges look too short. Too much of the next round in the magazine is protruding into the mortise where the carrier rides, and the bevel on the carrier is not able to engage it and shove it back into the chamber so it blocks the carrier from rising. Here is a view down into my Henry with a cartridge on the chamber. Notice the next round in the magazine is only protruding about the thickness of its rim. Compare that with your photo. Much more of the next round is protruding into the space in your photo. Specifications of these rifles change over time. The dimensions of your antique 1873 are probably different enough that it does not hang up with the same ammo you are using. I used to shoot an Uberti 1873 and I had to load ammo for it extra long, around 1.610 -1.615 OAL for it to function properly. Now I load my 44-40 ammo around 1.585 long for my Henry and it functions fine. The key here is how much of the next round is protruding into the space. Forget about what anybody else is using for OAL, load your ammo so that not much more than about .060, the thickness of the rim, is protruding into the space.
  5. Howdy When the 45 Colt cartridge was first developed in 1873, rifling groove diameter was specified as .454 min, .455 max. After WWII 45 Colt standard groove diameter was reduced to .451 to match the groove diameter of the 45 ACP cartridge. That is the main reason there are two different bullet diameters available for 45 Colt today, 454 for the older guns, .452 for the newer ones. The real key here is how closely does the chamber throat diameter of a revolver match the groove diameter? Some Rugers were notorious for having tight chamber throats, well under .451. Any bullet, .452 or .454 going through those chambers would be squeezed down before engaging the rifling. 2nd Gen Colts, on the other hand are notorious for having overly large chamber throats. My 2nd Gen Colts have chambers on the order of .455 or so in diameter. So my .452 bullets will allow a little bit of gas to escape around them in the chamber throats, potentially softening the lead and causing leading in the barrel. Since I only shoot Black Powder in my Colts, I don't worry about this, there is never any leading with Black Powder. I can't help you with your Henry, but with your Cattleman try this: Hold an empty cylinder in your hand, with the business end pointed at the ground. Drop a bullet into a chamber. What happens? If the bullet drops right through, it is too small for those chamber throats. If light pressure with a pencil will shove the bullet through the chamber throat, it is the ideal diameter for your chamber throats. If it takes a lot of force to shove the bullet through, it is too big. Let that be your guide.
  6. Thanks I like Ian's videos almost as much as yours. I looked it up, and that pistol went for $25,200.00 https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/_a__giant__577_bland_pryse_5_shot_revolver_-lot464533.aspx
  7. Howdy Ammo goes in the box at the top. Rifle length cleaning rod, umbrella stand. Screwdrivers, small ball pein hammer, tooth brush, pistol length cleaning rod, ear plugs, eyeglass side shields, Sharpie, brass rods, rags, cleaning patches, bore brushes and jags, empties bag, loading block, Ballistol, Murphy's Mix, gloves, insect repellent, bandaides, water and juice, snickers bars, and cell phone.
  8. "To put a slightly different twist on this, which powder, other than Trailboss, takes up the most space?" Unique. I don't know if it takes up the most space, but it takes up a lot. That is why Unique was always my choice for 45 Colt or 44-40. It takes up a lot of space in the case, and an accidental double charge should be really noticeable.
  9. Howdy That is my spacer stick in those photos. As pictured, I could feel the brass 'stud', it's actually a piece of brass tubing that I had laying around, graze past my hand as it slides all the way home. A couple of years ago I filed the 'stud' down a little bit further so now it is flush with the slot in the magazine and I never feel it slide by anymore. The reason I use the spacer stick is so I don't have to do the Henry Hop. I place my left hand just in front of the frame. The spacer stick prevents the follower tab from quite reaching my hand, so I don't have to do the Henry Hop. Yes, I usually wear a glove on my left hand in the summer because my Henry gets really hot with my 44-40 Black Powder loads.
  10. Howdy Again I may get in trouble for saying this, but with all my 44-40 rifles: Uberti Henry, Original Winchester '92 (two of them), Uberti 1873, and my old Marlin, I never clean out the magazine. Same with my original 38-40 Winchester Model 1873. Not enough fouling gets past the round in the chamber to make it necessary. With the Henry, which I shoot the most often, so little gets past the round in the chamber that I scrub off the carrier and the bolt a little bit, and of course the bore, and that's it. I cannot remember the last time I ran anything down the magazine.
  11. Howdy I have said many times that the slight taper of 44-40 does not make it seal better in a chamber than 45 Colt. High pressure gas does not have a problem going around corners. The thinness of the brass at the case mouth makes the difference. On average, 45 Colt is around .012 thick at the case mouth, 44-40 runs around .007 thick. The thinner brass makes the difference in 44-40 (and 38-40 too) sealing a chamber better at the relatively low pressures generated by Black Powder loads. I was not present at the design meetings when Winchester developed the 44-40 round in 1873, but I suspect the reason the case has a slight taper is a tapered case will feed more reliably from a carrier into a chamber than a straight case will. Don't forget, before the 44-40 was developed, Winchester chambered the Henry and 1866 models for the straight cased 44 Henry rimfire round. I suspect they decided that a tapered case would simply feed better than a straight case. No idea where you came up with that statement. Have you run both brands through a hardness tester? My experience is that Winchester 44-40 brass tends to be a smidgen thinner at the neck than Starline. Just measured a bunch of each. Winchester 44-40 brass is running around .0065 - .0075 thick at the case mouth. Starline is running around .0075 - .0085 thick at the case mouth. In my experience, that is why Winchester 44-40 brass tends to expand slightly better than Starline to seal a chamber. Also, because the brass is a hair thinner at the neck, if one has a rifle that requires 'fat' bullets, such as .430 or so for your 44-40 loads, the thinner brass at the neck of Winchester brass will allow a fat bullet to chamber in a tight chamber, whereas the slightly thicker Starline brass might expand a tad too much and cause seating problems in a tight chamber. I used to always use Winchester brass for 44-40, because of the thinner neck. But I could not always find Winchester 44-40 brass when I needed it. I suspect Winchester only makes a run of 44-40 once or twice a year. I switched to Starline for all my Black Powder needs a bunch of years ago, 45 Colt, 44-40, 44 Russian, and 38-40 because it is always in stock. For what it's worth, my antique Marlin 1894, which left the factory around 1895, digests my Black Powder 44-40 loads just fine. All the fouling stays in the bore, where it is easy to clean out.
  12. Howdy H.K. I agree, 32-20 is a lot of fun to shoot. Almost no recoil in a rifle. Unfortunately I don't think I would be allowed to use the only two revolvers I have chambered for 32-20 in a match. On the left is a S&W 32-20 Hand Ejector, on the right is a Colt Police Positive Special, also chambered for 32-20. Closer still so the caliber markings can be seen.
  13. Howdy As you probably know, the length of the round on the carrier is the determining factor in how much of the next cartridge in the magazine will protrude onto the carrier. I have found that what works best with a toggle link carrier is to allow not much more than the rim of the next round in the magazine to extend onto the carrier. Around .060 or so with a 44-40. Here is a view down from the top of the carrier in my Uberti 1860 Henry. It does not matter whether or not it is a Henry, a '66, or a '73, the carriers all work pretty much the same. Notice just the rim of the next round is protruding into the space where the carrier rides. There is a bit of a ramp machined onto the floor of the trough where a cartridge sits. The purpose of this ramp is to shove the next round back into the magazine, so the carrier can pass by as it rises up. If the round protruding out of the magazine protrudes too far, the flat of the carrier trough (my term) will jam against the cartridge as the carrier tries to rise. The arrow in this photo is pointing to the ramp on my Henry carrier. Sorry for the flashlight, that was the only way I could get enough light down inside to show the ramp. Sorry too that the photo is a bit out of focus, that is the best I could do. Here is a photo of the ramp on the carrier of an original Winchester Model 1873. Notice that it is cut a little bit differently than the ramp on the Uberti. This ramp appears to have been cut with a cone shaped cutter coming in from the front of the carrier. I used to use a 44-40 Uberti 1873 as my main match rifle. It had been made sometime in the 1980s. The ramp on it absolutely would not allow 'standard' length 44-40s to feed well. I had to load my rounds extra long in order for them to prevent too much of the next round from protruding into the space where the carrier rides. Looking at my loading notebook I was loading them 1.610 - 1.615 long for them to feed properly. I'm not sure why I did not lengthen the ramp on the carrier with a little bit of file work, there must have been a reason. Perhaps your '73 is from the same time period and also wants extra long rounds. If so, perhaps a little bit of surgery to the carrier will help. I looked into replacing the carrier with another one. I was visiting my favorite gunsmith one day and he had some extra carriers. None would fit into the mortise where the carrier rides. I don't remember if they were too long or too short, but none of them would fit, so I abandoned that idea. I know you did not ask, but I currently load my 44-40s nominally 1.585 long and they feed fine. I just grabbed one and it is actually 1.575 long. Hope this is of some help.
  14. None of them. Rugers pretty much stand alone as far as ruggedness is concerned. As I said earlier, I shoot Colts. They work fine as long as I don't try to shoot them too hard and too fast. If I did, parts would start wearing out. I have not owned any of the other brands other than a couple of Uberti Cattlemen. As far as I can tell, they are just about as robust as a Colt, except they have a coil spring for the hand instead of the traditional leaf spring. Other than that, the dimensions of the internal parts are pretty much the same. I bring a pair of 'original model' Vaqueros to every match as backups to my Colts. So far in close to 20 years of CAS I have needed one of the Rugers twice. Knock on wood. Every once in a while the transfer bar on a Ruger will break, then the gun is useless until the transfer bar is replaced. Other firearms forums are amazed at this, they have never heard of a transfer bar breaking. But given the amount we shoot, it does happen every once in a while. Look up Transfer Bar Pinch.
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