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    CAS, Black Powder, SW DA Revolvers, Trap, Woodworking, Model Trains, History, Reloading.

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  1. Howdy The most complete list of cartridges for the Single Action Army I know of is what Jerry Kuhnhausen lists in his book The Colt Single Action Revolvers A Shop Manual, Volumes 1 & 2. The only 41 caliber cartridge he lists is the 41 Colt. Left to right the cartridges in this photo are 45 Colt, 41 Colt, and 44 Colt. No mention of the 41 Rimfire, which was a very short cartridge meant for small derringers such as this Remington Model 95 double derringer. Kuhnhausen states that over 1800 Single Action Army revolvers were chambered for 44 Rimfire, which I take to mean 44 Henry. The rounds in this photo, left to right are 22 Long Rifle, 32 Short Rimfire, 32 Long Rimfire, 38 Rimfire, 41 Rimfire, and 44 Henry.
  2. Howdy I have been using this custom Duke rig for close to 20 years now. There are 25 cartridge loops on it. Notice that they are mostly empty with just a few 44-40s on my strong side in case I need a rifle reload. Haven't done a pistol reload in years. Yup, I stopped carrying extra cartridges on the belt a bazillion years ago. 25 250 grain 45 Colts get pretty heavy after a few hours. Two four shell shotgun slides do me for most stages. If I was going to get a new rig, it would only have a few loops for a few 44-40 cartridges. I'm thinking I could probably get rid of the knife too.
  3. Howdy Just so you know, sequential serial numbers with Ruger revolvers really doesn't mean anything. The frames were stamped sequentially, and it ends there. Nothing was done to tweak the revolvers to make them perform similarly.
  4. Howdy Thanks for the photos of the parts inside. Clearly different than the machined parts of my Uberti Henry. Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those guys who screams about the MIM (Metal Injection Molded) parts in new S&W revolvers, although I do prefer traditional machined parts. I have never cared for the polish that Henry puts on their Original Henry Rifle. To my eye, they are over polished. Particularly the barrel. The corners of the barrel flats are too highly polished and softened for my taste. I prefer the more well defined barrel flats on my Uberi Henry. Plus I'm really not a fan of that engraving on the Henry product. Clearly done by a machine. If I can't have hand executed engraving I prefer no engraving at all. Thanks for the photos.
  5. Yup, you can use any brand of 209 primer.
  6. Howdy This has nothing to do with whether you bought an inexpensive Hombre or a top of the line Cattleman. What happens is every time the firing pin 'finds its way' through the firing pin hole in the frame, it disturbs the metal of the frame a tiny bit. Eventually, a burr gets raised around the firing pin hole. Colt solved this problem over 100 years ago by pressing a hardened steel bushing into the recoil plate. The bushing is harder than the frame metal, and hard enough that no burr gets raised. You can file or stone the surface of the recoil shield flat, but eventually the problem will return. If you don't want the burr to return, you need to create a bit of space where when, not if, the burr returns it will not interfere with the case heads in the cylinder. Warden Callaway's solution is a good one. What I did years ago was I took a very long drill bit. Long enough to extend completely through the barrel and touch the recoil plate of the revolver. I wrapped the drill bit with tape so only the point was showing. Then very carefully I turned the bit by hand, not with a drill, but by hand, so that it just barely bit into the metal surrounding the firing pin hole and created a tiny countersink. It may look ugly, but it worked.
  7. Howdy My 2nd Gen Colts are really not all that old, the top one left the factory in 1973, the lower one in 1968. But they come to almost every match with me. My Stevens hammer gun is pretty old, it left the factory around 1908. It is my main match shotgun and comes to every match. My Marlin Model 1894 left the factory in 1895. I brought it to the first match I attended about 20 years ago. I should bring it again sometime. About once a year I will bring my almost matched pair of S&W New Model Number Threes. The nickel plated one left the factory in 1882, was refinished at the factory in 1965. The blue one shipped in 1896, part of a large shipment to Japan. My Merwin Hulbert shows up about once a year. It is difficult to date these. This one probably shipped around 1881 - 1883. Sometimes I bring the Merwin Hulbert and one of the S&W NM#3s. About once a year my Trapdoor makes it to do a little bit of long range shooting. It left the factory in 1873. We don't shoot Cowboy Trap around these parts any more, but when we did my 1909 vintage WInchester Model 1897 with its 30" full choke barrel made a pretty good trap gun. Won a couple of matches with it.
  8. Howdy Yes, the 45 Colt is a very cool cartridge. It has been around since 1873. However, if you want to shoot fast, I suggest you start with 38 Special. Some new shooters buy 45 Colt, because of its mystique, but then they try to shoot fast, and find the recoil prevents it. So they try to down load the 45 Colt and shoot very light bullets, so it recoils about the same as a lightly loaded 38. The big cavernous case of the 45 Colt does not always do well when loaded way down. With a light load of Smokeless powder, the large amount of airspace inside can lead to spotty ignition and inconsistent powder burn. Yes, there is the 45 Cowboy Special, designed specifically to shoot light loads in a 45. The case is much shorter than a 45 Colt, it has the same interior capacity of a 45 ACP, and the same loading data can be used. But last time I looked, 45 CS was pretty expensive, and frankly, I don't know where you would buy them in quantity today. There is always the 45 Schofield too, a shorter 45 caliber case than 45 Colt, but longer than 45 CS. Most revolvers that will shoot 45 Colt can also shoot 45 Schofield, however sometimes there is a problem because of the larger rim diameter of the 45 Schofield case. Schofield brass tends to be pricey too, Here is a photo of various 45 caliber cartridges. Left to right they are 45 Colt, 45 Schofield, 45 Cowboy Special, 45 Auto Rim, and 45 ACP. (Automatic Colt Pistol) I just checked the Starline Brass site, which is where I buy all my brass for comparative prices. 45 Colt $115/500 45 Schofield $121.50/500 45 Cowboy Special $129/500 38 Special $83/500 Yes, Starline does make 45 CS. I only quoted prices for 500 to keep everything comparable. You may find better prices elsewhere, and you can probably buy less than 500 at a time at places like Midway USA (you can look it up) That is correct. 45 Colt was never chambered in rifles until sometime in the 1980s. You will hear a lot of theories about how Winchester would not chamber their rifles in a cartridge with the name Colt on it, but the fact is, in the 19th Century 45 Colt ammunition had very small rims, much smaller than today. A rifle extractor could not get a good grip on the rims of some of the old 45 Colt ammo. Here is a photo of some old 45 Colt rounds. Notice how tiny the rims are on most of them. You don't need a very wide rim to keep the round from being shoved too far into the chamber of a revolver, and most of the old revolvers used an ejector rod to poke the empties out from inside. The round second from the right is a round that was loaded for the Army to be used in one of the double action revolvers of the time, and it had a much larger rim so the revolver extractor could reliably extract it. Which is the reason that 45 Schofield also has a wider rim, for the extractor of the S&W Schofield revolver. the round all the way on the right is a modern 45 Colt round, with a rim large enough for a rifle extractor to grab. The Winchester Center Fire rounds (WCF) were the most common rifle rounds in the 19th Century. In this photo, left to right, the rounds are 45 Colt, 45 Schofield, 44-40 (44WCF), 44 Russian, 38-40 (38WCF), and 45-70. Notice the 45 Colt, 44-40, and 38-40 are all approximately the same length. In Black Powder days, cartridges were completely filled with powder, so the relative size of the cartridge was a good indicator of relative power. I scrounged around in my hard drive and found this comparitive photo of a 44-40, 38-40, and 32-20 (32WCF) round. Sorry, I always have to correct this statement when I see it. It is not the shape of 44-40, or 38-40 or even 32-20 that makes it seal the chamber better than 45 Colt. It is because the brass of these cartridges is thinner at the case mouth than 45 Colt. So they seal the chamber better, eliminating blow back better, than a round with thicker brass at the case mouth, such as 45 Colt. Regarding making your own Black Powder, I strongly suggest against that. You need to have plenty of open space, so the powder can be corned (ground into grains) with nobody and nothing nearby. Powder mills used to explode regularly, and it usually happened when the powder was being corned.
  9. Wow Loophole. That must be an old photo. Saguaro Jack is timing you and I don't remember the last time I saw him at a match. Is that at Country Pond? By the way, yes, I shoot an Uberti 1860 Henry. Don't need the stick, thanks, I make my own.
  10. I always reply to questions like this the same way. What is the problem with sooty brass? Does it not shoot as well as shiny brass? Just polish it between loadings. Try shooting Black Powder sometime if you want to see sooty brass.
  11. What? C&R colts? Of course they are pricey. What do you expect? They are 50 years old. They are not being made right now, not C&R Colts. The law of supply and demand. Something is in high demand, it is expensive. By the way, that 2nd Gen Colt in the photo above was quite a deal. $680 out the door. But that was almost 20 years ago.
  12. Yes. Whenever they start up again I will probably be there. But first I will have to load up a bunch of ammo. By the way, if you find a C&R (older than 50 years) Colt you can buy it on your C&R. But you do have to register it with the State.
  13. Where have you been? I got my Stainless Merwins a few years ago.
  14. Howdy from a fellow denizen of the Commonwealth of MASS. You might look into getting a Curio and Relic license from the BATF, which will open up more possibilities for firearms not on 'the list'. PM me if you want to know more about that. Although the J/P 200 is an excellent Big Lube bullet, designed by a master, for 45 Colt I use the PRS 250 grain bullet exclusively in my 45 Colt Black Powder loads. I will add, I only shoot these in my revolvers, my rifles are all either 44-40 or 38-40. Here is what goes into my 45 Colt Black Powder loads. I actually load them on my Hornady Lock & Load AP progressive press. My loads make plenty of smoke, and yes, that is a 2nd Gen Colt. All 2nd Gen Colts are Curios and Relics. Regarding your rifle I am not much help, because as I stated earlier all my CAS rifles are chambered for either 44-40 or 38-40. By the way, it is not the shape of these bottleneck cartridges that makes them better suited for Black Powder, it is the fact that the brass at the case mouth is much thinner than the brass of other cartridges such as 45 Colt. Thinner brass means the case expands better at the relatively low pressure generated by Black Powder. This tends to seal most of the fouling in the bore, with very little blowing by into the mechanism of the rifle. So for a 45 Colt rifle and Black Powder I suggest you use a heavy bullet, such as the PRS 250, which will present more resistance to moving than a lighter bullet. More resistance to moving will cause higher pressure, causing the thicker case of 45 Colt to expand better to seal the chamber than a lighter bullet will.
  15. Both the Colt Single Action Army and the Winchester Model 1873 came out in 1873. The Colt was chambered for 45 Colt and the Winchester for 44-40. It was not until 1878 that Colt chambered the SAA for 44-40. It is often stated that if one was lucky enough (or rich enough) to own both a Colt and a Winchester, 44-40 was the preferred chambering, because the same ammunition could be fired in both. However there was a period of five years when this was not possible. I like to think I lived then.
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