This Is Why You Don't Succeed

[Sedalia Dave]

Very thought provoking and incredibly insightful.

 

 

[The Original Lumpy Gritz]

110% on point

[Alpo]

Did you notice right at the tail end, in the ending credits? 15:39

 

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But didn't he just say that phones are bad?

 

Maybe it's because I'm of a different generation. A telephone is a telephone. I have the telephone next to my bed. If I wake up in the middle of having a heart attack, I want to be able to pick up my phone and call 911. Hard to do that if it's out in the living room. If my daughter calls me, at 2:30 in the morning because something bad happened to her, I want to be able to hear the phone and wake up. Again, not too easy to do when it's out in the living room.

 

[Rye Miles #13621]

Does he know every millennial out there? This guy is full of himself, he thinks he’s some kind of an expert! 

[J-BAR #18287]

Makes sense to me; thanks for posting this.

[Rye Miles #13621]

My grandson and granddaughter are both millennials and they’re nothing like this supposed expert says. He’s a typical know it all fool that doesn’t know it all! Speaking for a whole generation without knowing everyone of them is ridiculous!

[DeaconKC]

Well, I have seen first hand what he is speaking of. No, it's not everyone, but it is a significant portion of younger folks.

[Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L]

3 minutes ago, DeaconKC said:

Well, I have seen first hand what he is speaking of. No, it's not everyone, but it is a significant portion of younger folks.

 

Agreed. I was an engineering supervisor for many years and had to regularly lay down the law to the new hires as to what was expected of them, both the do's and do not's!

[Texas Maverick]

Even retired I see his examples daily. They feel they are entitled and can do whatever they want. For instance. we have a horse farrier come to the barn to shoe or trim our horses and the others that are needing done. He is scheduled to be there at 8:00 am. We arrive at 7:00 am to get our horses ready because it is supposed to be first come first served. Our little millennial comes driving up around 8:00 am and gets her horse and moves to the front of the line saying she has to get back to work, like none of the others there work. The others keep letting her get away with it. When I am there I push back and tell her to get there earlier if she wants to get to the front of the line. I am the old fart that doesn't put up with her crap. The others don't want to make waves and get into a pissing match with her. I feel sorry for the farrier because he is caught in the middle of this situation. Too bad for her, I have all day to do it so bring it on. This is just one example of what I see daily around here and most of the time they get away with it.

 

TM

[Cypress Sun]

 

I used to see a lot of what was described in the video when I was working. Some of the causes he spoke of are true. His solution that it is corporate's responsibility to build up their self-esteem and turn them into adults is pure bull***t.

 

I'm there to teach them if they don't know how to do a certain part of their job, to help guide them through the various steps of their job, to help them enjoy their success in doing a good job and to help mold them into good employees.

 

I'm NOT there to babysit them, teach them social skills, do the job their parents should have done or to turn the instantly gratified narcissists into adults. They can follow the rules, come in on time/leave on time, put their damn phones down and do their job. If they can't, they can go do it somewhere else. 

[Rye Miles #13621]

3 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said:

 

I used to see a lot of what was described in the video when I was working. Some of the causes he spoke of are true. His solution that it is corporate's responsibility to build up their self-esteem and turn them into adults is pure bull***t.

 

I'm there to teach them if they don't know how to do a certain part of their job, to help guide them through the various steps of their job, to help them enjoy their success in doing a good job and to help mold them into good employees.

 

I'm NOT there to babysit them, teach them social skills, do the job their parents should have done or to turn the instantly gratified narcissists into adults. They can follow the rules, come in on time/leave on time, put their damn phones down and do their job. If they can't, they can go do it somewhere else. 

Agreed and that goes for anyone of any age! There’s many GENXers that fit this bill as well as people our age. Believe I’ve met some!

[Badlands Bob #61228]

The corporate culture has changed over the last 20+ years.  There are no more pensions and the best way to get a pay raise is to quit and find another job.  It's pretty common for people in the tech world to change jobs every 3-4 years.  Down sizing and layoffs are common depending on the economy and there is no loyalty between a company and the employee anymore.  It's all about what's in it for me.  This is the environment these millennials are having to work in.  

[watab kid]

i think ive become my father - i no longer understand where the young are coming from nor why they think like they do , not sure i want to really , 

 

if bobs right [ive been out for a while] i guess some of it makes sense , but im not sure turning to communism is a good choice yet i see a lot of youth doing just that , just wait till they get a taste of that - and coming back is not near so easy as getting into it 

[Calamity Kris]

I too have seen first hand what the Op is talking about.  A very recent example:

 

Candidate responds to a job listing.  Isn't qualified but begs and begs the recruiter to get them an interview.  Recruiter obliges.

From the VERY BEGINNING and for the first couple of minutes, the candidate is told the job is in-office only.  No virtual or hybrid work available.  Candidate states they understand.  45 minutes into the interview, the candidate is asked which site is closer to them, for commuting purposes, "A"or "B".  The candidate says "wait, this isn't a remote job?  Is there any hybrid work available?  I live an hour and a half from the closest office and I don't want to drive that far." The candidate is again told this is an in-office only position.  The candidate responds "are you sure?"  The candidate is again told yes this is an in-office only position and they are thanked for their interest and their time.........

 

I don't believe it's corporate's responsibility to build up Millennials self esteem.  It's up to the individual to build themselves up through hard work and perseverance. 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

On 12/19/2023 at 1:47 PM, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Does he know every millennial out there? This guy is full of himself, he thinks he’s some kind of an expert! 

And you don't think he is because.........?

[Rye Miles #13621]

9 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

And you don't think he is because.........?

I just  don’t think he’s an expert because he thinks he is just like all the other so called experts out there. Where’s his data ? Interviews etc.? It’s easy to become an expert today, just go on the internet! This is all his opinion and he’s kind of annoying to listen to. That’s MHO.

[Major Hazzard, SASS #23254]

On 12/19/2023 at 2:47 PM, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Does he know every millennial out there? This guy is full of himself, he thinks he’s some kind of an expert! 

Nobody knows "every millenial out there".  That doesn't invalidate his observations.   My personal impression is he knows what he's talking about and articulates his points very well.  Having recently finished "raising" three Millennials, he's spot on.  If you want to challenge his data, do your homework and get back to us.  

[Ozark Huckleberry]

My b-I-law was a ‘captain of industry’ — major IT business. 
 

Did a performance eval on a probationary hire, and the next day the probie’s mother was in his office to discuss the evaluation. Seems she felt the kid’s worth was under-appreciated. 
 

B-i-l was polite, compassionate, professional. Let her have her say,  and walked her to her car. 
 

Went back to his office, called in the probie, and asked him if he understood the terms of ‘probational employee’?

 

Then told him to leave his access pass, and security escorted the kid to pack his desk and leave the grounds.

[Rye Miles #13621]

9 minutes ago, Major Hazzard, SASS #23254 said:

Nobody knows "every millenial out there".  That doesn't invalidate his observations.   My personal impression is he knows what he's talking about and articulates his points very well.  Having recently finished "raising" three Millennials, he's spot on.  If you want to challenge his data, do your homework and get back to us.  

I have no interest in challenging his data, that's up to him to show it or maybe you if you want. I'm done with this conversation. Have a Merry Christmas.

[Eyesa Horg]

From my experiences in the phone company as a manager/supervisor, he's pretty much right on the money. Sad, but true. I know several of the good ones and even they bitch about their peers. 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

3 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

I just  don’t think he’s an expert because he thinks he is just like all the other so called experts out there. Where’s his data ? Interviews etc.? It’s easy to become an expert today, just go on the internet! This is all his opinion and he’s kind of annoying to listen to. That’s MHO.

Point taken and accepted.

 

Ex: something that may have been.

Spurt: a drip under presssure.

 

Heard that in first grade (Thanks Miss Estep) and never forgot it

[TN Mongo, SASS #61450]

As a recently retired educator and coach for 45 years, I have seen what he describes in a portion of my former students.  I don't think his generalizations are true for the entire group of these people.  It is amusing however, to listen to my children (daughter 39 and son 36) both in upper management positions, complain about the work ethic of some of the younger employees.  They do have hard working younger employees who go above and beyond, but they each have a number of people they supervise that drive them nuts because they are barely competent yet feel they are owed promotions and bonuses just for clocking in.

[Wild Eagle]

Interesting that after 16 years of school he blames the companies for not being willing to teach the kids.  Seems like the blame should go to the schools for not getting the kids ready for real life jobs.  Instead of no cell phones in the conference rooms how about no cell phones in class?  How about the schools teach them about conflict resolution, how to deal with their co-workers, and customers, how to dress professionally, etc.  Kids today are coming out of college at 22-23 years old and then a company has to spend three or four years training them on work ethic and how to deal with real life, how to interact with co-workers, even if you are from different political parties, and how to build your job skills and contribute to the company's success.  Then after that you can start teaching them how to do the job they were hired for in the first place.  Might be OK if you're an entry level workplace that requires minimal job skills and expects very high turnover, but if you aren't setup to train everyone in what should have been taught in school, and require an extensive set of job skills, you'll go broke training people that are not adding to the company.  Sounds to me like this guy is just kicking the can down the road, don't blame the schools, blame the companies, if the companies don't do better than the schools, he'll probably start blaming the nursing homes later.

 

[PowderRiverCowboy]

No I don't succeed anymore, because I gave the hell up, tired of being the only one that gave a crap and doing all the work. Same goes for Holidays .  

[J-BAR #18287]

Success is the responsibility of the individual person, not a corporation.  Grow up, decide what's holding you back, adapt.

 

It may take a while.  I was in my 40s before I became an adult.

[Ozark Huckleberry]

On 12/24/2023 at 3:16 PM, Wild Eagle said:

How about the schools teach them about conflict resolution, how to deal with their co-workers, and customers, how to dress professionally, etc.  Kids today are coming out of college at 22-23 years old and then a company has to spend three or four years training them on work ethic and how to deal with real life, how to interact with co-workers, even if you are from different political parties, and how to build your job skills and contribute to the company's success. 

 

For many people, foundational workplace skills came from entry-level jobs worked part-time and/or seasonal. 

 

Minimum wage laws that push entry-level wages higher in the idea that even the drive-through operator has a 'right' to be paid 'a living wage' reduces the jobs available for the very people that need those entry-level jobs to develop the skills they need to perform well in the workplace later on.

[Buckshot Bob]

2 hours ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

 

For many people, foundational workplace skills came from entry-level jobs worked part-time and/or seasonal. 

 

Minimum wage laws that push entry-level wages higher in the idea that even the drive-through operator has a 'right' to be paid 'a living wage' reduces the jobs available for the very people that need those entry-level jobs to develop the skills they need to perform well in the workplace later on.

This is a big part of the problem. Your first job shouldn’t be after you graduate college, or even high school. Part time or summer jobs in HS can teach allot of life’s lessons. And really help the child learn what they want to do for a career. Some want to be the next captain of industry others are perfectly happy digging a ditch. But it takes some life experience to reach these conclusions for yourself. 

[Alpo]

4 hours ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

Minimum wage laws that push entry-level wages higher in the idea that even the drive-through operator has a 'right' to be paid 'a living wage' reduces the jobs available for the very people that need those entry-level jobs to develop the skills they need to perform well in the workplace later on.

I remember my first job. The store owner says, "I'm going to pay you $2 an hour. You're not worth $2 an hour, but the law says I have to give you that much".

 

And he was right. I did not have a clue about how to be an employee. So for at least the first month I was not worth $2 an hour.

[Cypress Sun]

 

When I first started in the electrical trade, the owner of the company I applied at told me he'd pay me $3.25 an hour....gawd, I thought I was rich after making $2.25 to $2.75 an hour at various jobs. I had no experience whatsoever and was scared of electic. Worked for 40+ years in the trade. I'm not scared of electric now...but I sure as hell respect it.

[Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L]

I started formally working at 13 for my dad and uncle in their garage / trucking business for $5.00 a week. During school, I worked about 25 hours a week. During the summer, over 50 hours per week so I was making $0.10 an hour (or less)! Later, I talked my dad into paying me $1.00 an hour until 5 pm and $0.50 an hour after 5 pm. During some very busy periods, I was making up to $100.00 a week. 

 

I started working to buy a motorcycle when I turned 16 but my parents wouldn't let me (though they would let me ride any bike I could borrow. Go figure.). So at age 16, I bought a 1967 Mustang GTA, 390 cu in.

 

[irish ike, SASS #43615]

Never did he say "all" millennials.  He's a well educated individual who does happen to do research to "back up" his commentary.

As a Boomer who had to manage millennials he is spot on. They were raised with never being told no, or experiencing failure. Even if their team lost they got trophies and were told they were good players.

 They can't grasp being to work on time or why they can't just come in and leave when they want.

My profession requires confidence and social skills to meet with clients and present/discuss projects. They leave college with zero ability to do this.The plague caused us to send everyone home and work from home. We lost efficiency and output.

Now they don't understand why they have to come back to work.  

They don't get the concept that in order to get a raise or be promoted they have to excell and work hard.

[Dantankerous]

I work for a company that is entirely manufacturing based. For the hourly workpool we hire for operations and maintenance positions. The vast majority of whom we have working for us now are millennials.  I have worked for over 30 years in the same environment and can say based on my personal observations that the laziest of all employees I've ever witnessed are indeed millennials but that does not mean that all of the millennials we have resemble that. Certainly we had some worthless Boomers and some worthless Gen Xers but also true is in much fewer numbers and with much less intensity at being worthless than what we see in today's millennials. Surprisingly and very refreshing are the newest generation of youth I'm witnessing in this particular plant site,  the Gen Z folks who have all exhibited a high work ethic and a fascinating disdain for the generation ahead of them. And they're not quiet about telling the millennials to get off their lazy asses. And they are the only ones that can do that because HR will consider it harassment if any of us older folks say the same. How entirely messed up is that?

 

My observation.

 

 

[Wild Eagle]

18 hours ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

 

For many people, foundational workplace skills came from entry-level jobs worked part-time and/or seasonal. 

 

Minimum wage laws that push entry-level wages higher in the idea that even the drive-through operator has a 'right' to be paid 'a living wage' reduces the jobs available for the very people that need those entry-level jobs to develop the skills they need to perform well in the workplace later on.

Totally agree with you.  Many of the positions I hired for did not require a degree.  The guy with 2 years work experience and no degree usually got an interview before the guy with a degree and no work experience.  But the schools know this and have not stepped up to get the kids ready to join the workforce and be productive.  The education system needs to adapt to the needs of the country and the actual "new" reality.  Not many go to work at 15 like a lot of the boomers did.

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

55 minutes ago, Wild Eagle said:

But the schools know this and have not stepped up to get the kids ready to join the workforce and be productive.  The education system needs to adapt to the needs of the country and the actual "new" reality.  Not many go to work at 15 like a lot of the boomers did.

The schools have a political agenda that has nothing to do with teaching young people to be productive. They'd rather teach them that "Heather has two Mommies", that there are more than 2 sexes and to be offended by EVERYTHING. 

That's the only way that they can get these people to be useless, and therefore have to be dependant on somebody else for their everything, like the Government. And if certain people in the Government promise to give them everything, that's the people they're going to vote for.