Texas Jack Black Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Who in your opinion would you say is the fastest 97 shooter in the game currently? Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Deuce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvil Al #59168 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Them boys down in Florida are pretty dang salty with a 97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 I was witness to Widder running 6 kds in 3.82. That's fast on water. He ran 4kd in 2.30 Those are all hitting and knocking down the kds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Badly Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 It ain't me. Plus I had to reengage 3 kds at the SE Regional. In my defense, I think the rifle targets behind them were magnetic cause I didn't miss them. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jack Black Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 49 minutes ago, Anvil Al #59168 said: Them boys down in Florida are pretty dang salty with a 97. Quite true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jack Black Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, Tennessee williams said: I was witness to Widder running 6 kds in 3.82. That's fast on water. He ran 4kd in 2.30 Those are all hitting and knocking down the kds. Not the oldest How about the fastest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Opinion only: On any given day or time, about ANY of a dozen or so 97 shooters could claim the fastest. Put all of them together for a week, with daily competition, and here are my top choices to run the fastest 4 and 6 shots...... with the shooters choice of starting position and not touching shells. They can start with gun on table, port up or down. Or, they can start holding SG in Hand(s). Don't restrict the shooter to position the SG in a particular, 'restrictive' manner but allow them to start at their preference. This is the only way to determine their real speed. ALL shells in belt, hand NOT touching shells. AND, included in that guideline, another Cowboy will work the timer. It should not be started by the shooter because this would restrict their preferred starting position. My 97 favorites over the years are, in no particular order: Deuce - 4 or 6 shots Santa Fe River Stan - consistently a Master at the 97 Arcadia Outlaw - tough and fast The Outlaw Travis James - I wouldn't bet against him anytime. Midwest Hale - surprisingly Awesome. Missouri Traveler - Lefty's dad. And on good runs, I think he can best Lefty on 4 or 6. Copperhead Joe - One of the original 97 shooters that inspired me..... and still does. SideKick - his 4 shots will make you nervous and envious. Prestidigitator - Don't know if he is still shooting, but his speed is Awesome. Phantom - He's a Borg. Hell's Coming - His reputation speaks for itself with the 97. I've seen his videos. He's GOOD....Real Good! And last but definitely not the least: Red Knee - his left handed style may actually be the fastest 4 shots I've ever seen. AND, on top of all that, Chicken George has 2 young sons that are burning up the 97 and whooping up on any and all competition. Watch out for them. Hope I didn't leave anyone out. My apologies if I did. ..........Widder (and somewhere during all that competition, I might get in the top 10, assuming I can get a good tail wind). ...........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Graybeard Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Widder ...you forgot Gunslinger Grace...she can work a 97 pretty dang good herowndangself...also current Woman's National Champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jack Black Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 55 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Opinion only: On any given day or time, about ANY of a dozen or so 97 shooters could claim the fastest. Put all of them together for a week, with daily competition, and here are my top choices to run the fastest 4 and 6 shots...... with the shooters choice of starting position and not touching shells. They can start with gun on table, port up or down. Or, they can start holding SG in Hand(s). Don't restrict the shooter to position the SG in a particular, 'restrictive' manner but allow them to start at their preference. This is the only way to determine their real speed. ALL shells in belt, hand NOT touching shells. AND, included in that guideline, another Cowboy will work the timer. It should not be started by the shooter because this would restrict their preferred starting position. My 97 favorites over the years are, in no particular order: Deuce - 4 or 6 shots Santa Fe River Stan - consistently a Master at the 97 Arcadia Outlaw - tough and fast The Outlaw Travis James - I wouldn't bet against him anytime. Midwest Hale - surprisingly Awesome. Missouri Traveler - Lefty's dad. And on good runs, I think he can best Lefty on 4 or 6. Copperhead Joe - One of the original 97 shooters that inspired me..... and still does. SideKick - his 4 shots will make you nervous and envious. Prestidigitator - Don't know if he is still shooting, but his speed is Awesome. Phantom - He's a Borg. Hell's Coming - His reputation speaks for itself with the 97. I've seen his videos. He's GOOD....Real Good! And last but definitely not the least: Red Knee - his left handed style may actually be the fastest 4 shots I've ever seen. AND, on top of all that, Chicken George has 2 young sons that are burning up the 97 and whooping up on any and all competition. Watch out for them. Hope I didn't leave anyone out. My apologies if I did. ..........Widder (and somewhere during all that competition, I might get in the top 10, assuming I can get a good tail wind). ...........Widder I think you underestimate yourself Best Wishes and I thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno Mustang Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 A little bird told me if you come to the TN State there is a great chance that you will see the fastest 97 around. It might be appropriate to plan a 97 shoot off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 I would add Walker Colt to Widder's list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said: Not the oldest How about the fastest? He may be getting on up in years but he is still pretty dang fast! I agree there are a lot of fast ‘97 shooters in Florida. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Badly Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Tom Bullweed said: I would add Walker Colt to Widder's list. Hey Tom. Enjoyed shooting on your posse at the Regional. I know you can vouch for how slow I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Heyya Widder, Thanks for being generous with that list Here's one...wish he was still shooting. Badlands Bud Story: He was on my WR posse (the year he won with 15 total Rank Points...and wasn't clean). Stage had two KD's that launched flyers. He shot it KD,KD,Flyer,Flyer. Was sitting around the campfire with Spence and the rest of the Whack Pack and I told him what Bud did. His response: Damn...I don't have the ba$$s to do that in the National Championships! Sure miss having fun with that guy...he was ALWAYS fun to shoot with. Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Gut C. Gunman, the Young Gun who won Bordertown deserves mention. At his age he's just going to get faster. He'll probably shoot a '97 side match at EOT. Let's see how shooters rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Heyya Phantom. A few years back, in my prime, we had a stage with two KD's and bird launchers, one on each side of the stage, about 25 ft apart. When the scenario stated to 'shoot KD and then bird', I ask if I could shoot KD, KD and then bird, bird. "SURE" laughed the posse marshal. He thought I was joking. I hit both KD's and then went for the birds. They were both still in the air when I fired at them, but I MISSED them both. I've always been a bad aerial shooter. I doubt I could manage that now..... but I would try again if given the chance. I love the challenge and ain't afraid to miss. No doubt, Badlands Bud and Lead Dispenser were two of the fastest with the 97. And too bad they still don't shoot. Hope you had a peaceful Thanksgiving. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Heyya Widder, Thanks for being generous with that list Here's one...wish he was still shooting. Badlands Bud Story: He was on my WR posse (the year he won with 15 total Rank Points...and wasn't clean). Stage had two KD's that launched flyers. He shot it KD,KD,Flyer,Flyer. Was sitting around the campfire with Spence and the rest of the Whack Pack and I told him what Bud did. His response: Damn...I don't have the ba$$s to do that in the National Championships! Sure miss having fun with that guy...he was ALWAYS fun to shoot with. Phantom I watched Spence shoot two KD's and two flyers at Stampede once, it was impressive. Cobra Cat can rock a 97 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Just now, Assassin said: Cobra Cat can rock a 97 too. He sure can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I know how to pick one up and clear it at the Un-Loading table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT. ELI 35882 GUNFIGHTER Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Missouri Traveler is pretty salty with a 97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rough 'N Ready Rob Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 2:44 PM, Phantom, SASS #54973 said: Heyya Widder, Thanks for being generous with that list Here's one...wish he was still shooting. Badlands Bud Story: He was on my WR posse (the year he won with 15 total Rank Points...and wasn't clean). Stage had two KD's that launched flyers. He shot it KD,KD,Flyer,Flyer. Was sitting around the campfire with Spence and the rest of the Whack Pack and I told him what Bud did. His response: Damn...I don't have the ba$$s to do that in the National Championships! Sure miss having fun with that guy...he was ALWAYS fun to shoot with. Phantom I witnessed Bud doing that too, couldn't beleave it. He use to shoot our annuals, I was lucky to be possed with him, we were walking to the next stage, I asked him how often do you practise ? he said I'm out of school now so 5 hours a day, I'm lucky to do that in a year. He was at another local match I was at. He shot a stage so fast the TO said the timmer must have stop he couldn't shoot that fast. He ask the TO can I shoot it again and if I get close to that time can I have it, TO said OK. He shot it again and beat that time. Not only is he a good shooter he is a nice young man, I would like to see him out here shooting again too. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo Montana Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 3:30 PM, Tom Bullweed said: I would add Walker Colt to Widder's list. I shoot with Walker Colt regularly, I am continually awed by his competence and skill with the 97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I remember Bud having some issue with his 97 one time. He went over somewhere and put around 100 rounds through it. I can't remember if this was when we were done for the day at an annual or what. He finished, took his 97 back to the vehicle. When he came back, minutes later, he couldn't believe someone had already scooped up all the hulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 2:56 PM, Old Man Graybeard said: Widder ...you forgot Gunslinger Grace...she can work a 97 pretty dang good herowndangself...also current Woman's National Champ He’s probably never seen her shoot! Good add! All the 97 shooters need to know the young lady from Iowa! Hugs! Scarlett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken George* Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 You may want to look at who wins the 97 speed events at EOT and Land Run. They have the title of being the fastest pump shotgun shooter in the world and nation. You can also see the world record runs, which include Lead Dispencer, Deuce Stevens, and Badlands Bud here... https://www.caswr.com/mens-shotgun-pump And here... https://www.caswr.com/mens-shotgun-six-shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 9 hours ago, Chicken George* said: They have the title of being the fastest pump shotgun shooter in the world and nation. As I'm sure you know, EOT and Land Run while being call the World and National Championships, are not Qualifying events...therefore, if you win, you only beat those that decided to pay the entry fee and go. While still an accomplishment, the "titles" don't mean you're the "fastest (fill in blank) in the world and nation. Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells Comin Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 And remember doubles are for sissies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Hells Comin said: And remember doubles are for sissies Well that true...but FC shooters have no choice. Oh, and I wear Cat Print Shirts...so... Phantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totes Magoats Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I watched those boys from Florida and Cobra Cat at Land Run, they'd get my vote. Totes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Totes Magoats said: I watched those boys from Florida and Cobra Cat at Land Run, they'd get my vote. Totes Have ya ever seen Red Knee from Oklahoma? When he was a little more active (before Covid) he was Oklahoma State speed 97 champ, Regional Speed 97 champ, and when he went to the Natl's, he was the National Speed 97 champ. He's got nerves of steel and eyes like lasers. He could probably leap a tall building if you put a cape on him..... If you order up 4 hamburgers and 2 hotdogs, he'll have those burgers done before you can blink ye eyeball. The 2 hotdogs take a little longer..... (4 shots or 6). ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Have ya ever seen Red Knee from Oklahoma? I've always wondered...why are his knees red... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Jake Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 2:03 PM, Reno Mustang said: A little bird told me if you come to the TN State there is a great chance that you will see the fastest 97 around. It might be appropriate to plan a 97 shoot off! I hope it happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hells Comin Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 31 minutes ago, Diamond Jake said: I hope it happens! Gee who would that be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Hells Comin said: Gee who would that be! Rumors and Rumblings is that some Cowboys out west will be riding the trail and wearing out horses headin towards TN next summer. It won't be a place for the faint of heart or rude behavior... HC: pack up that lightning rod you compete with and bring it over. The welcoming committee will be hanging around the Speed SG stage on side match day. ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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