Tennessee williams Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 What's your favorite 45-70 load for our 200yd targets? I only have imr4198 and trailboss powder. I have 405 and 410gr cast bullets if you have a favorite in one of those combos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G W Wade Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I used 4198 and my friend used Trailboss. Both good I had a little more velocity GW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Twelve grains of TB will work a treat for you. That's my load. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 4198 works, but is a shoulder buster. I’ve never loaded a round of anything with Trailboss, but I’ve seen it work with 45-70. People giggle because it will take about 2 minutes to cover that 200 yds my favorite 45-70 load for 405 cast bullets is 14.2 Unique. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Altman SASS#74468 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I like 31 grains of IMR 4198, which gives me a velocity of about 1326 fps with a 405 grain cast bullet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) TN is the proud owner of a new rifle..... a Winchester 1885 Hi-Wall in 45-70. I ask him where he got the $$$ to buy such a rifle and he said he's been saving it up and keeping it in a secret place that his Bunkhouse Boss would never find. I ask what kinda place is that. TN sez....... "The Oven". He keeps his extra gun money in the oven cause she never uses it...... Hey, this is a true story. A feller just can't make this stuff up. ..........Widder Edited April 15 by Widder, SASS #59054 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted April 15 Author Share Posted April 15 That was a true story. The only other safe space in the house is the bottom of the laundry basket. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shapiro Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Mine was about 68gr of 2F, dropped over 6 seconds through a 3 foot brass tube. Then compressed with a compression die with a wad made from a plastic milk jug. And a 525gr pill seated to a depth that would just engage the rifling. That may not be quite what you're looking for though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I settled on 13.2 Unique/405 for short ranges like you mention, it's very accurate and brings home the wood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Wheeler Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 405 grain LFN bullet over 13 grains of Trail Boss lets me reach out to 200 yards with my Marlin 1895CB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blarney Kid Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I use 50gr. 2f, 10gr. by vol of cream of wheat and a 350gr. bullet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk James Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 22 grains of XMP 5744 with a 405 gr bullet 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Crimes Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I shoot my Pedersoli 1886 with shaver sights with 34gr of AR2207 (H4198) with a 405gr pill. Its a big heavy rifle and handles the push just fine. At a range shoot I lucked into a 78 out of 100 at 300M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKFOOT SASS #11947 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 7 hours ago, Dutch Wheeler said: 405 grain LFN bullet over 13 grains of Trail Boss lets me reach out to 200 yards with my Marlin 1895CB. That works for me! Blackfoot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Creek Jack Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 24 gr. Of 5744 behind a Lazer cast 405 gr. bullet for my 1886 Winchester, deadly accurate out to 400 yards. I bet your Hi Wall would love it! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Snuffy Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Tennessee Williams send you a pm Tennessee Snuffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 23 minutes ago, Silver Creek Jack said: 24 gr. Of 5744 behind a Lazer cast 405 gr. bullet for my 1886 Winchester, deadly accurate out to 400 yards. I bet your Hi Wall would love it! I've seen SCJ's accuracy at distances. He ain't lyin' when he says deadly. This is the 45-70 load I'm trying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 8 hours ago, Dutch Wheeler said: 405 grain LFN bullet over 13 grains of Trail Boss lets me reach out to 200 yards with my Marlin 1895CB. I have quite a few of these exact loads. Very mild on the shoulder, very pleasant to shoot. I'm just not certain as to their effective longer range AND I hate to use up these great TB loads now trying to figger it out. I'd feel fine using these on deer within 100 yards though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Spade Mikey Wilson Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 16.0 grains of Trail Boss under a 300 grain lead bullet gets me out to 200 yards, and won me a bunch of big bore shoots over the years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted April 15 Author Share Posted April 15 2 hours ago, Dantankerous said: I have quite a few of these exact loads. Very mild on the shoulder, very pleasant to shoot. I'm just not certain as to their effective longer range AND I hate to use up these great TB loads now trying to figger it out. I'd feel fine using these on deer within 100 yards though. I don't do very much hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 5 minutes ago, .44bang said: Remington 405 JSP, Win LR primer, 46 Gr. IMR 3031 for outstanding accuracy at all ranges. What club allows the use of a jacketed bullet?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I've loaded 405 gr lead with 39-40 grs of 3031. A little thump, but not bad. I need to chrono them to see where I'm at though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 i appreciate the input here - these days powders are few and far between i have been looking for options , this helps , on another site i was told 13 grn red dot but ive not seen anything to confirm this so im reluctant to try it or suggest its an optional powder , but if anyone has experience id like to know , there are a lot of options in powder but not a lot on the shelves these days , i have some of a couple pf the above but id like another option if thats possible - one i have a lot of , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, watab kid said: i appreciate the input here - these days powders are few and far between i have been looking for options , this helps , on another site i was told 13 grn red dot but ive not seen anything to confirm this so im reluctant to try it or suggest its an optional powder , but if anyone has experience id like to know , there are a lot of options in powder but not a lot on the shelves these days , i have some of a couple pf the above but id like another option if thats possible - one i have a lot of , Ed Harris came up with "The Load" many years ago, consisting of 13.0 grains of Red Dot, and used it in just about every standard rifle cartridge/lead bullet combination around. https://www.hensleygibbs.com/edharris/articles/The Load.htm Edited April 16 by Three Foot Johnson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 thanks , that was a notation i either missed or was not presented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 23.5 grains of 5744 under the 325 gr bullet cast in a RCBS mold, #45-325-FN-U, outta my 1886. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Arrow Hombre Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 My old standby powder was IMR SR-4759 which was discontinued a while back. I have a bit left, but will be trying Accurate 5744 and shooters world buffalo as replacements. All three of them are bulky extruded powders with very similar burn rate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I shouldn't tell this, but TN Williams and I have a pair of Marlin 1895 COWBOY's in .45-70 which we plan to compete with in future months. Plus, TN has a couple other 45-70's he'll probably dust off and shoot a little. All this info posted above will help us greatly. THANKS, everyone! ..........Widder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 19 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: I shouldn't tell this, but TN Williams and I have a pair of Marlin 1895 COWBOY's in .45-70 which we plan to compete with in future months. Plus, TN has a couple other 45-70's he'll probably dust off and shoot a little. All this info posted above will help us greatly. THANKS, everyone! ..........Widder If you're going to stretch the range out, put a decent sight set on 'em. I've got MVA on my 1895 and Lee Shaver on a couple of Sharp's. Still waiting on another MVA for my Chiappa Little Sharps .22 - 9 1/2 weeks and counting... a year and a half ago, this one only took 3 weeks, 3 days... maybe I should shoot them an email. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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