Favorite 45-70 load

[Tennessee williams]

What's your favorite 45-70 load for our 200yd targets? 

I only have imr4198 and trailboss powder. I have 405 and 410gr cast bullets if you have a favorite in one of those combos. 

[G W Wade]

I used 4198 and my friend used Trailboss.    Both good     I had a little more velocity    GW

[Michigan Slim]

Twelve grains of TB will work a treat for you. That's my load.

[Hoss]

4198 works, but is a shoulder buster. I’ve never loaded a round of anything with Trailboss, but I’ve seen it work with 45-70. People giggle because it will take about 2 minutes to cover that 200 yds

my favorite 45-70 load for 405 cast bullets is 14.2 Unique. 

[Doc Altman SASS#74468]

I like 31 grains of IMR 4198, which gives me a velocity of about 1326 fps with a 405 grain cast bullet.

 

 

 

[Widder, SASS #59054]

TN is the proud owner of a new rifle..... a Winchester 1885  Hi-Wall in 45-70.

 

I ask him where he got the $$$ to buy such a rifle and he said he's been saving it up

and keeping it in a secret place that his Bunkhouse Boss would never find.

 

I ask what kinda place is that.   TN sez....... "The Oven".

 

He keeps his extra gun money in the oven cause she never uses it...... 

 

Hey, this is a true story.  A feller just can't make this stuff up.

 

..........Widder

 

[Tennessee williams]

That was a true story. The only other safe space in the house is the bottom of the laundry basket.

[Doc Shapiro]

Mine was about 68gr of 2F, dropped over 6 seconds through a 3 foot brass tube.  Then compressed with a compression die with a wad made from a plastic milk jug.  And a 525gr pill seated to a depth that would just engage the rifling.

 

That may not be quite what you're looking for though.

[Three Foot Johnson]

I settled on 13.2 Unique/405 for short ranges like you mention, it's very accurate and brings home the wood. 

[Dutch Wheeler]

405 grain LFN bullet over 13 grains of Trail Boss lets me reach out to 200 yards with my Marlin 1895CB.

[The Blarney Kid]

I use 50gr. 2f, 10gr. by vol of cream of wheat and a 350gr. bullet.

[Kirk James]

 22 grains of XMP 5744 with a 405 gr bullet

[Major Crimes]

I shoot my Pedersoli 1886 with shaver sights with 34gr of AR2207 (H4198) with a 405gr pill. 

 

Its a big heavy rifle and handles the push just fine.

 

At a range shoot I lucked into a 78 out of 100 at 300M.

[BLACKFOOT SASS #11947]

7 hours ago, Dutch Wheeler said:

405 grain LFN bullet over 13 grains of Trail Boss lets me reach out to 200 yards with my Marlin 1895CB.

 

That works for me!

Blackfoot

[Silver Creek Jack]

24 gr. Of 5744 behind a Lazer cast 405 gr. bullet for my 1886 Winchester, deadly accurate out to 400 yards. I bet your Hi Wall would love it!

[Tennessee Snuffy]

Tennessee Williams

 

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Tennessee Snuffy

[Dantankerous]

23 minutes ago, Silver Creek Jack said:

24 gr. Of 5744 behind a Lazer cast 405 gr. bullet for my 1886 Winchester, deadly accurate out to 400 yards. I bet your Hi Wall would love it!

 

I've seen SCJ's accuracy at distances. He ain't lyin' when he says deadly. This is the 45-70 load I'm trying.

[Dantankerous]

8 hours ago, Dutch Wheeler said:

405 grain LFN bullet over 13 grains of Trail Boss lets me reach out to 200 yards with my Marlin 1895CB.

 

I have quite a few of these exact loads.  Very mild on the shoulder, very pleasant to shoot. I'm just not certain as to their effective longer range AND I hate to use up these great TB loads now trying to figger it out. I'd feel fine using these on deer within 100 yards though.

[High Spade Mikey Wilson]

16.0 grains of Trail Boss under a 300 grain lead bullet gets me out to 200 yards, and won me a bunch of big bore shoots over the years.

[Tennessee williams]

2 hours ago, Dantankerous said:

 

I have quite a few of these exact loads.  Very mild on the shoulder, very pleasant to shoot. I'm just not certain as to their effective longer range AND I hate to use up these great TB loads now trying to figger it out. I'd feel fine using these on deer within 100 yards though.

I don't do very much hunting.

[Three Foot Johnson]

5 minutes ago, .44bang said:

Remington 405 JSP, Win LR primer, 46 Gr. IMR 3031 for outstanding accuracy at all ranges.

What club allows the use of a jacketed bullet??

[Smokin Gator SASS #29736]

I've loaded 405 gr lead with 39-40 grs of 3031. A little thump, but not bad. I need to chrono them to see where I'm at though.

[watab kid]

i appreciate the input here - these days powders are few and far between i have been looking for options , this helps , 

 

on another site i was told 13 grn red dot but ive not seen anything to confirm this so im reluctant to try it or suggest its an optional powder , but if anyone has experience id like to know , there are a lot of options in powder but not a lot on the shelves these days , i have some of a couple pf the above but id like another option if thats possible - one i have a lot of , 

[Three Foot Johnson]

2 hours ago, watab kid said:

i appreciate the input here - these days powders are few and far between i have been looking for options , this helps , 

 

on another site i was told 13 grn red dot but ive not seen anything to confirm this so im reluctant to try it or suggest its an optional powder , but if anyone has experience id like to know , there are a lot of options in powder but not a lot on the shelves these days , i have some of a couple pf the above but id like another option if thats possible - one i have a lot of , 

Ed Harris came up with "The Load" many years ago, consisting of 13.0 grains of Red Dot, and used it in just about every standard rifle cartridge/lead bullet combination around.

 

https://www.hensleygibbs.com/edharris/articles/The Load.htm

[watab kid]

thanks , that was a notation i either missed or was not presented 

[Griff]

23.5 grains of 5744 under the 325 gr bullet cast in a RCBS mold, #45-325-FN-U, outta my 1886.  

[Straight Arrow Hombre]

My old standby powder was IMR SR-4759 which was discontinued a while back. I have a bit left, but will be trying Accurate 5744 and shooters world buffalo as replacements. All three of them are bulky extruded powders with very similar burn rate. 

[Widder, SASS #59054]

I shouldn't tell this, but TN Williams and I have a pair of Marlin 1895 COWBOY's  in .45-70 which we plan to compete with in future months.

Plus, TN has a couple other 45-70's he'll probably dust off and shoot a little.

 

All this info posted above will help us greatly.   THANKS, everyone!

 

..........Widder

 

 

 

[Three Foot Johnson]

19 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said:

I shouldn't tell this, but TN Williams and I have a pair of Marlin 1895 COWBOY's  in .45-70 which we plan to compete with in future months.

Plus, TN has a couple other 45-70's he'll probably dust off and shoot a little.

 

All this info posted above will help us greatly.   THANKS, everyone!

 

..........Widder

 

 

 

If you're going to stretch the range out, put a decent sight set on 'em. I've got MVA on my 1895 and Lee Shaver on a couple of Sharp's.  Still waiting on another MVA for my Chiappa Little Sharps .22 - 9 1/2 weeks and counting... a year and a half ago, this one only took 3 weeks, 3 days... maybe I should shoot them an email.