Two Spurs Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 See if this link to the September Chronicle, page 48 works. http://sassnet.com/Downloads/14eChron/14septchron.pdf (Nope, you'll have to scroll down to page 48.) That's funny. I actually read that right before I went to bed late last night. Thanks again for all the responses. Well.............most all of them. This thread (that I swear I've never seen before) is like a car you see for the first time, love it, then buy it,.....only to start seeing them on the road all the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Spurs Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 I have em in all my 73's, that I compete with. Good Morning Dee! Two Spurs (headed in the right direction.... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oklahoma Dee Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 That's funny. I actually read that right before I went to bed late last night. Thanks again for all the responses. Well.............most all of them. This thread (that I swear I've never seen before) is like a car you see for the first time, love it, then buy it,.....only to start seeing them on the road all the time! LOL - thats because you finally caught up with em!!! Your goin faster and smoother!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rance - SASS # 54090 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I have 2 custom built '73's First one built didn't have it.. Did have a little hick-up in it that took yer mind off the stage when shooting it... Second one built I had him install one and send another kit for the first one.. It fixed that little hick-up in the first one... 125 TC lead rounds being used in both... Also noticed that they load a lot easier through the gate... not a big deal but it did help.. Rance Thinkin' I like the change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spades Hanlin SASS#66204 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I like mine, soon all my 73's will have one installed.. Spades H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvil Al #59168 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Also noticed that they load a lot easier through the gate... not a big deal but it did help.. Rance Thinkin' I like the change You know. I noticed that also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal TKD, Sass # 36984L Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Man came here looking for information that he does not have. No reason for you to post what you did. If you have no interest in the topic, stay out of it. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partner Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 http://www.slickmagicguns.com/SlickMercantile.html The information on the bullet alignment kit explains it all. I suggest a dry lube be applied when installing. An occasional light coat of wax may be applied to you liking. Keep it clean of sand. Okay. You convinced me. Just ordered one from Slick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 FYI, typing magazine sleeve into the search box brings up two discussions about this in the past year: http://sassnet.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=218963 http://sassnet.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=214058 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 The best solution is to replace the bolt and barrel with ones which will accept a 44-40. Smokestack, I tried that, but it wouldn't shoot my 38's well at all!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pit Bull Tex Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Two Spurs,come to baytown and we will put one in for you to try and you can pick up some AA hulls while your here.I will PM my phone number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Rotten Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Try running 38 snap caps and you'll see right away why tube liners are good stuff. Won't have a 73 in 38 without one. Working my way to the top of the lists. Dang Smokestack is right though. 44-40 or 38-40 fixes most everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Rotten Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 You git 'em Goody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Dear Two Spurs, I'm so sorry this thread wasn't brought to my attention earlier and the rude comments were visible so long. I guess there is not much point in hiding them now. I appreciate those of you who reprimanded the person for his offensive posts. I hope he got the point and we (Moderators) will not see this behavior again. In the future, please use the Report feature, that keeps a log of the bad behavior and puts a red alert on the Moderator forum. Sincerely, Allie Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 So, I see Slick's carbon fiber tube unit and Boogie's stainless aluminum tube. Does anyone have experience with both and can provide us with an evaluation as to which one might be superior? I have this gut feeling that the carbon fiber tube might be more susceptible to splitting, decomposing, internal chipping or flaking due to the spring constantly compressing and decompressing. I imagine that the carbon fiber tube is probably 4 ounces less weight than the stainless aluminum tube, but that's a guess. If a source other than Boogie in Germany for Boogie's stainless aluminum tubes was mentioned, I didn't see it. Is there a US stocking distributer for the stainless aluminum tube? I see that Slick's carbon fiber tube is available from him here in the US. Any thoughts or advice on any of this......superiority, weight, carbon tube deteriorating or breaking? Thanks EDIT: Also, thanks to Larson P for pointing out my error in noting the metallurgy in Boogie's tubes. I recall reading "aluminum" but wrote "stainless" instead. Thanks, Larson. -CB- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 So, I see Slick's carbon fiber tube unit and Boogie's stainless tube. Does anyone have experience with both and can provide us with an evaluation as to which one might be superior? I have this gut feeling that the carbon fiber tube might be more susceptible to splitting, decomposing, internal chipping or flaking due to the spring constantly compressing and decompressing. I imagine that the carbon fiber tube is probably 4 ounces less weight than the stainless tube, but that's a guess. If a source other than Boogie in Germany for Boogie's stainless tubes was mentioned, I didn't see it. Is there a US stocking distributer for the stainless tube. I see that Slick's carbon fiber tube is available from him here in the US. Any thoughts or advice on any of this......superiority, weight, carbon tube deteriorating or breaking? Thanks The Boogie tube is not stainless. It is aluminum. The spring and follower are stainless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isom Dart, SASS#8096 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 TS, no experience with this one in particular, but, I wish these were out about two years ago. Bought a '73 in 32-30, always had trouble getting the last two cartridges in and would get a hiccup every now and then. Figured out Uberti's one tube fits all deal. Noticed that my orig.73' tube was smaller (32-20), ordered a 32-20 mag. tube, spring and follower from Brownells. Shimmed the tube to get it centered then Acra-Glassed it in. Installed it and ,,, wow, stuff (follower, spring) just came right on through. OK,,, hole in frame is also .45 sized. Go back, machine an adapter for the hole ,, install everything, fine tune it and all is well in 32-20 land. It took me about a week to figure all this stuff out and get it working, piddling around. Naps here and there etc. And now there's a kit for it. At least guys won't have to go through what I did. Oh well, Isom Dart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rance - SASS # 54090 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 If ya put in "smooth cycle sleeve kit" in the search window above.. It'll show ya some other different suppliers... Seems they all run around $75.00 Rance Thinkin' that little search window is great fer stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick McClade Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 The carbine fiber based tubes are very durable and only get smoother with use. these tubes are used by many national & world champions with over 200 sold just in the past 3-4 months. No negative issues that I'm aware of have been reported as of yet. These kits are much lighter than others available on the market. The complete kit weighs considerably less than one loaded 38 round, therefore not adding any unwanted weight. But the best part "Lifetime Guarantee" !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiowa Kid, SASS #69870L Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 The carbine fiber based tubes are very durable and only get smoother with use. these tubes are used by many national & world champions with over 200 sold just in the past 3-4 months. No negative issues that I'm aware of have been reported as of yet. These kits are much lighter than others available on the market. The complete kit weighs considerably less than one loaded 38 round, therefore not adding any unwanted weight. But the best part "Lifetime Guarantee" !! I Love the heck out of my thanks Slick.. KK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I got mine from Slick. I have shot two matches with it and so far the occasional hiccup this rifle had is gone. This may prove to be his best invention yet! Thanks Slick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hikes Point Hank Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Jimmy Spurs donated a slew of em to the last Georgia State Match and I had the fortunate luck to win one. Can't beat that and as a result of his generosity I'll be a repeat customer. I used mine at EOT this year and did ok for a rookie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls Head Bill SASS#33692 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 ...you run a junky Baikal...... I run the same junky Baikal.......and won the match yesterday...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Mike #8595 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I see a brand new rust spot in the making :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Jimmy Spurs donated a slew of em to the last Georgia State Match and I had the fortunate luck to win one. Can't beat that and as a result of his generosity I'll be a repeat customer. I used mine at EOT this year and did ok for a rookie... Hard to do much better. See you in Tennessee. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulls Head Bill SASS#33692 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I have a 24" barreled Uberti 73 in .357 mag. It has been a great rifle. I couldn't find a magtube "sleeve" in 24" length. I won one of the 20" lengths that Jimmy Spurs donated to the Georgia State Match back in May. (Thanks Jimmy!!) Yesterday I scrubbed out my rusty 24" magtube, and epoxied the 20" sleeve inside the 24" magtube. I kept the receiver end of the tubes flush on the end. Now......the spring that came with the sleeve kit is for a 20" long magtube, not the 24". But.........3 empty .45 Colt cases fit just fine to take up the extra space in the magtube before screwing in the endcap at the muzzle end. I just got in from trying it out. WOW......10 rounds as fast as I can work the lever and the trigger......and it's VERY SMOOTH!!!! I'd do it again!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Death 6683 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 One I've seen is aluminum the other is made of carbon fiber, which is the best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Apparently, no one can say which is best at this point in time. Probably because no one's tried them side-by-side over time or performed significant (or any?) comparative fire-testing. I've (since my last reply) spoken to three others who have them (all the Shotgun Boogie aluminum kits) and they have noticed significant improvement in the loading and cycling of their 73's. I also have since ordered Boogie's kit. I'd say there's currently not enough even emperical data to say with reasonable certainty if either the aluminum or the carbon fiber unit is mechanically or functionally superior. As I said, I doubt if any real side-by-side testing has been done(?). I haven't handled Slick McClade's carbon fiber tubes, but I ordered one from and I spoke via email with Shotgun Boogie, who is an engineer. His aluminum tubes are Oxygene coated to prevent electrolysis corrosion (a concern of mine) and are also ultra light. His machined, stainless followers are beautifully done. Everything's easy to custom trim and install. Should last a lifetime. Very noticeable functional improvement with the sleeve installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie two feathers Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 does anyone have experience with both types? i have a carbon fiber in one 73 and i went to remove it to clean and it does not want to come out of mag tube. will have to try a different method of removal. does the alum come out of tube easy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kajun Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I bought one from Slick and installed it about a month ago. I have to say that my rifle is smoother when shooting....kind of gives me a little more confidence while shooting and it has improved my rifle time a little bit. It may be that the confidence I have causes me to push myself a little more on the rifle.....for me it was a good experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigan Slim Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I wonder iffin they fit the new Winchester 73? My little girl has one and I have one coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 does anyone have experience with both types? i have a carbon fiber in one 73 and i went to remove it to clean and it does not want to come out of mag tube. will have to try a different method of removal. does the alum come out of tube easy? I suggest you contact Slick McClade, if he's who you bought it from and get advice. Removing the insert for maintenance is one reason I asked a lot of questions. 73 mag tubes are notorious for corrosion and if you were able to easily unscrew the mag plug, corrosion may not be the issue. But, being carbon fiber, the insert may not be reactive, but could have caused moisture to be trapped and not easily dissipate. Another thought is that you didn't trim the tube short enough and when you reinstalled the mag tube end plug, you crush-fit the insert, making it difficult or impossible to remove without destroying it. Those are just guesses. Were I you, I'd contact the supplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I have an aluminum in one rifle. I got it as an experiment both for cycling and rust prevention. Mine was from The Smith Shop. My main concern was the dissimilar metals can sometimes react. So for that, the carbon fiber may be better - if it can be readily removed. Since I was concerned with the metals and to avoid rust, I put on a pretty good layer of a good synthetic grease. After a month or so, I took it apart to see how things were working. How much dirt got in between the mag and the tube, etc. The tube came out nicely was still clean on the outside and appeared to be avoiding any rust build up. So I put it back in. As to cycling the rifle, it may make a little difference but it was hard to tell. The one warning is to make certain the mag plug is the proper length. My rifle is a Renegade (Uberti) and the plug the maker supplied extended too far into the action. So on the last round, it hindered the elevator from raising. This would quickly wear the elevator as well as not cycling as I wanted on the last round. So I took some careful measurements and contacted the maker. They then made a plug and switched it out with me. Not it is GREAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Ringer Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I'm a big fan of the reduced diameter magazine tube. Fast or slow, you'll notice a difference if your experiencing the allusive random glitch. Like Lunger said, I now run a 105 crimped in the grove. Prior to the insert, I wouldn't run the little 105 in my rifle. Now it's 105's in all my guns and great rifle performance👍 Regards, Ringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 My exerience using the tube liners is very positive. Two of three 73s of mine have a hick-ups loading the first two rounds in the mag (9the and 10th loaded). Many times it causes me to jack out a live round, not desirable. Installed an aluminum liner on the worst gun in June and never had the problem again. Got that one from my son. Made a post on this forum after that wanting a source and a cowboy sold me one he won at half price as he shoots 45s. Installed the second aluminum one in the second troublesome rifle in Oct and boy was it smooth for all the rounds last weekend. Now I am a bit up in the air for the third 73, it has never had a loading issue. Trying to decide whether I should fix something that is not broke, get an aluminum mag liner or get a resin mag liner. Right now it is wait and see. Of course the liners all come with new stainless springs and follower. I was a bit nervous, as the first gun we put the aluminum tube in the mag was originally a basket case. When I purchased it at about half pirce, it was extremely flawed and would not function. A prior owner had cut off the barrel, and welded up the toggle links trying to duplicate a popular short stroke kit and bent the lever (on purpose). Over the years I had to have a new lever installed, all new short stroke kit, and many more interanl parts replaced, etc. It has always had trouble loading the first two rounds (even after all the fixes). The liner makes that now my best 73. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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