Bottom Dealin Mike, SASS #22273 7 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I was shooting in a match today and I realized I was the only one on my posse shooting a SxS shotgun. I thought back and I've seen only two or three SxS shotguns at matches so far this year. I started this game in 1995, and side by sides were the rule rather than the exception then. But the last couple of years it seems like side by sides are definitely in the minority. I shoot a couple of 19th century sidelock guns, and I have no plans to switch. What do you all shoot? Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger Sgt. Jake McCandless #3368 13 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I use one of three Hammered SxS and also a hammerless. I have noticed hear in New England in the last couple of years the SxS is making a resurgence,just my observation. Adios Sgt. Jake Link to post Share on other sites
Justin O Lawman,SASS#7672 1 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I Shoot 4 different SXS and a 87 Lever action shotgun. No 97's! They just are not cowboy!!!!!!!! My story and I'm sticking to it. Link to post Share on other sites
Angry Ned 22 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I'm using A Pioneer SxS, opened hammered shotgun. A terrific gun that I hope someday my skills will catchup to the quality of this great gun. Ned Link to post Share on other sites
Brasspounder 14 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Shootin' Frontiersman, I gotta use a sxs double....Hammers of course! Link to post Share on other sites
Snake River Clay SASS #34984 99 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 SxS Link to post Share on other sites
Utah Bob #35998 16,966 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Maybe it's a Pennsylvania thing... Link to post Share on other sites
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 1,638 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Most be a local club thing in your area. If you go to any large match you will see lots of top shooters going to the SxS. Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty Dude, SASS # 51223 76 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 SXS, Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Nelson #19958 37 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Just got back from the Colorado State Championship, we (my wife and I)noticed after the first main match day that on our posse the only NON SxS was an '87. Not only no '97's, there were 4 of us shooting one version of an Open Top or another. First time in 12 years of shooting that has ever happened. What a great posse! Doc Nelson Link to post Share on other sites
Bottom Dealin Mike, SASS #22273 7 Posted June 13, 2011 Author Share Posted June 13, 2011 Must just be a PA/MD thing, but '97s are definitely the most common here. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubious Don #56333 205 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 SXS's going the way of the dinosaur? Not hardly! "Round these parts there's quite a few pards still use'em! If the rumors of the 97 imports are true, barring any change I forsee the SXS becoming more in use. Already shooters are realizing the benefit of the reliability of a shotgun with relatively few moving parts being more reliable than a pump gun. Link to post Share on other sites
Go West 465 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 The question seems to be which double are people shooting around here it seems. I haven't been able to keep up when I've tried a double or 87, but a lot of folks have made a successful switch. Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 7,048 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I have 2 TTN's and a Stoeger coachgun and that's what I use for cowboy. I have a chinese 97 and use it when I shoot WB which is practically never. SxS going out of style? Doesn't Evil Roy now use one? Some of the top shooters here in Ohio use a SxS. 97's are just not cowboy enuff. That's my opinion and I'm stickin to it! Rye Link to post Share on other sites
Jefro, SASS#69420 431 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Most be a local club thing in your area. If you go to any large match you will see lots of top shooters going to the SxS. Yep, a bunch of shooters have retired thier 97 and switched back to SXS. The only time I use my 97 is for Wild Bunch, course I shoot mostly BP for SASS . Jefro Relax-Enjoy Link to post Share on other sites
Nate Kiowa Jones #6765 476 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I was shooting in a match today and I realized I was the only one on my posse shooting a SxS shotgun. I thought back and I've seen only two or three SxS shotguns at matches so far this year. I started this game in 1995, and side by sides were the rule rather than the exception then. But the last couple of years it seems like side by sides are definitely in the minority. I shoot a couple of 19th century sidelock guns, and I have no plans to switch. What do you all shoot? What I'm seeing is just the opposite. In the last few years more and more folks have gone to the SXS's. I believe part of it is because more and more places now stage the long guns horizontally pointed down range. For year most places staged them vertically in racks and such. Vertically staged the 97 had the advantage of loading as you bring it to play where the SXS had to be turn over at least slightly to load then brought to play. Next, over the long haul the 97 will fail more often than a SXS. Simple mechanics, more parts more things to go wrong. Then you have more and more stage writers splitting the shotgun. Something like 2 shotgun then 10 rifle then 2 more shotgun. SXS’s and 97’s are about equal for the first two rounds. The 97 will lead if he can pull 4 rounds. Link to post Share on other sites
Aunt Jen 0 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I was shooting in a match today and I realized I was the only one on my posse shooting a SxS shotgun. I thought back and I've seen only two or three SxS shotguns at matches so far this year. I started this game in 1995, and side by sides were the rule rather than the exception then. But the last couple of years it seems like side by sides are definitely in the minority. I shoot a couple of 19th century sidelock guns, and I have no plans to switch. What do you all shoot? I kinda prefer the SxS. It's not as fast as the '97, but it's more reliable. The '97s break down too much, and I like to be there at a match to enjoy, which I wouldn't do with a break down. Aunt Jen Link to post Share on other sites
Guest diablo slim shootist Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Must be a yankee thing!!!All kidding aside most are not only going back to sxs they favor single trigger now. Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Dog, SASS #20401 29 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Just the opposite is true from what I have observed. What I see is the pendulum has definitely swung back to the double and I am part of that trend. Yesterday I only saw one 97 being used at the local match. And that was in the hands of a former world champ who has always been a 97 man. I have a dozen or so originals and 4 Chinchesters and they all stay home these days unless I am going to a WB shoot. Link to post Share on other sites
Red Hooker 42 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 My total SG arsenal is four hammer doubles, two "hammerless", three single barrel (one functional), no pumps. If I were to get another SG, it'd be an '87. Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang Gregg 201 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I've got a Stevens 311D and a Winchester 23. The Stevens is a 28" 12 gage (for flying targets) and the Winnie is a 20" 12 gage. I love them both! Mustang Gregg Link to post Share on other sites
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L 591 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 SXS GG ~ Link to post Share on other sites
Irish Rambler 0 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I love my sxs SKB straight stock that Goatneck Clem slicked up for me. Irish Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Whiskers 246 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I used one of 3 SxS's for several years then switched to a 97 (actually 2 of em).When they both went down 2 years ago I went back to and have stuck with my SxS's. Link to post Share on other sites
Colorado Coffinmaker 3,618 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Western PA, the S X S is re-surging. I shoot two TTNs and a Pedersoli, all Hammer doubles. Getting to be more and more of them. Coffinmaker Link to post Share on other sites
Possum Skinner, SASS#60697 241 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 TTN Hammered double. I've tried a '97. Just didn't like it. Possum Link to post Share on other sites
ChuteTheMall 18 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 TTN hammered double, kinda like the cowboys used. Never fails if I remember to cock the hammers. Link to post Share on other sites
Marauder SASS #13056 1,119 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Yup, the SxS is so dependable. And many of the top shooters have switched to the SxS, such as Evil Roy. Plus Deuce Stevens, Red River Ray both shoot the SxS and are really fast with it. As is Silver City Rebel and Dirt Merchant. Some newer fast shooters such as Fast Eddie showing folks how to do it. I think that has influenced many of us to reconsider the SxS and many are switching back to them. The availability of good quality tuned SKB's and Brownings have further helped but the Stoeger and stolid Baikels are still doing good service. For stages with a little movement, the SxS can have a slight advantage over the 97 in most folks hands since you can easily dump the empties while moving. The 97's are still popular but I see a LOT more SxS that i used to. Those lucky folks that learned to load 4 with a 97 (Swift Stoney can sure do it!) can keep up and even exceed nearly any SxS, but that is relatively rare. Link to post Share on other sites
Adirondack Jack, SASS #53440 16 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Ask any FAST SXS shooter, and they will tell ya one reason they stay with em is that way they don't NEED 3 or 4 shotguns (one to shoot, a backup, one in the shop, one to canabalize for parts).... Just sayin. I carry a Baikal double to a match with ZERO concern it will act up. Link to post Share on other sites
Rio Brazos Kid 38 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Must be a yankee thing!!!All kidding aside most are not only going back to sxs they favor single trigger now. I am very partial to my Stoeger Supreme single trigger Coach Gun. I like it much better than my back-up gun which is also a Stoeger but with two triggers. There's really no appreciable difference in speed, but the single trigger O/U shotgun is what I have shot for years and so it just feels more natural on the Coach Gun, and I am partial to it. RBK Link to post Share on other sites
Ivory Jack, #8534 LTG 0 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 My main match shotgun is a Winchester Model 1887 made in 1892. My backup shotgun is a Rossi Uplander (hammered double with 28" barrels). Black powder in everything, of course! Link to post Share on other sites
Palo Verde, SASS # 56522 94 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Yup, the SxS is so dependable. And many of the top shooters have switched to the SxS, such as Evil Roy. Plus Deuce Stevens, Red River Ray both shoot the SxS and are really fast with it. As is Silver City Rebel and Dirt Merchant. I believe Evil Roy's grand daughter, Holy Terror, shoots a '97, as does Lead Dispenser and Badlands Bud (I believe) and many of the other top shooters. Both SXSs and '97s are fast in the hands of someone who has practiced . As for reliability, I have seen'em both fail --- usually at the worst possible time . Yes, a '97 has a lot of parts, but only a few of those parts will stop it from running, and a '97 should have regular inspections of it's working parts - just like you do on your other guns. Just comes down to whatcha like . Link to post Share on other sites
Hells Comin 590 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Bet ya that 80% of the shooters in the Top 10 at EOT will be shooting 97's. Also bet ya a 97 will win speed shotgun! Bet ya $0.50 Hells Comin Link to post Share on other sites
Smithy 0 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 An 1887 fixed up by Lassiter with a SXS hammerless for back up. Smithy. Link to post Share on other sites
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 1,497 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I shoot one of my 4 S X S, 2 - 12s and 2- 16s ..... Looking for a Hammered 16 of the made in the US type .... Jabez Cowboy Link to post Share on other sites
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