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  3. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765
    Unless the two piece firing pin is replaced with the one piece the Lever actuated trigger block is a secondary safety. The hammer can fall but the gun will not fire if the lever is even slightly down. The lever has to be fully up to lift the locking bolt in place behind the breech bolt. But, at the same time the locking bolt lifts the rear portion of the firing pin inline with the front part of the firing pin. Only then will it fire.
  4. Stopsign32v

    Thanks for the reply. I can get a Rossi with the old bolt in it for $400. I could swap the bolts and probably still break even. Would it be worth the hassle in your mind? Would it cause smoothness issues in the action and would the headspace issue be something you could do? 

     

    Thanks
     

    1. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765

      Nate Kiowa Jones #6765

      It could cause all the above. You gotta keep in mind, Rossi has been making these guns since the 60's so the parts will vary from gun to gun year to year. Also, the bolts are caliber specific.

      As for the headspace if it ends up excessive that will require removing the barrel setting the shoulder back by one thread thickness, trimming the chamber face to the correct headspace then reaming the chamber back to spec. That job alone is $300.

    2. Stopsign32v

      Stopsign32v

      I see, I would probably pass on it then. Thank you for the advice. 

       

      I plan to get your DVD and tune kit. The issue I'm running into with my Rossi is it is messing up the rims of my brass. I took one coil off the extractor spring and it made it much better but there is still a small mark on all of them. Would the DVD show how to get rid of this or will I have to live with it? Brass falls a foot behind me when cycling. 

    3. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765

      Nate Kiowa Jones #6765

      you mean the ejector. That's the plunger part in the face of the breech bolt. If the marks are on the rim you will want to reduce the extractor, the bar on top of the bolt. The DVD shows all of this. Use my ejector spring, too.

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  6. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765
    Big clue, the T-bolt retailed for about $450. All the others start at about $1000 That should tell you something right there.
  7. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765
    The TTN part will work in the originals too. I still have many of the TTN parts.
  8. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765
    Warden, you still need colt 1878 parts? BTW, that W. Richards is Belgian. Here's one I did awhile back,
  9. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765
    Most any will work. Some better than others. The most challenging is removing stuck nipples. So, I built this one from a small 1/4" drive socket notched to fit and to be used with the 1/4" square drive to 1/4" hex adaptor into an impact driver. I have even used it on original CB guns with good success
  10. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765
    Yep, had one of those Frankfort's too. Hung up way too much. So, when the Hornady came out I bought it. It works pretty good and the Dillon tubes fit it, too.
  11. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765
    Thanks PWB Good to know. I always run on the assumption that it was still not allowed. Just to clarify, would this Titanium part need to be approved by SASS? The reason I ask. From SHB page 4 Just because a manufacturer designs a part or firearm for this sport or just because a firearm was available, does not necessarily mean it is legal for competition. Only the modifications referenced here as allowed are approved. All others are illegal.......................................................................................................................for SASS Cowboy Action Shooting™. Any firearm modification not referenced in this Handbook is prohibited. ​As written it would appear the material may be allowed but the actual part may not be allowed.
  12. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765
    You are correct. I forgot about the marlin firing pins. Titanium hammers do work and much faster too.
  13. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765
    So titanium hammers and firing pins would be allowed? Like I said, IIRC before the Firearms covenant there were rules barring such thinks.
  14. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765
    From the Shooters handbook version 21.8k Page #3 "Any firearm modification not referenced in this Handbook is prohibited." Page #4 "Replacement parts may be made from materials other than the original unless such material is specifically prohibited." I don't have the time to chase down the specific rule but before there was the Firearms Covenant lightweight materials like Titanium and such was not allowed. I don't think that has changed . As for who, I would never mention a name without the persons permission. I agree. But, lighter parts would be a bandaid too.
  15. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765
    Sorry, but lock time can be a factor. I know of at least one multi world champ that can out run the hammer fall of a revolver to a point that if the hammer fall is really slow he will actually be moving to the next target before detonation causing misses. To improve locktime you have two options. Lighter components like hammers and firing pins or SASS mandated standard weight parts and heavier springs.
  16. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765
    Yep, I too am betting it's the bolt finger broke off or the cam on the hammer worn away. Would those be the older AWA Peacekeeper or Longhorn models. Those were all made with ASM early 1st gen style parts and were notorious for going out of time. The early bolt fingers were real pointy/sharp and the cams were soft so the cams wore away regularly. The new AWA's are much better. They are made with Pietta parts they all have pressed in hardened cams and 2nd/3rd gen bolts with a more rounded tip.
  17. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765
    Prays for the Parson get well David,
  18. Nate Kiowa Jones #6765
    That's not too big for a liner.
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