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Nate Kiowa Jones #6765

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  1. The most fragile leaf is the hand/pawl spring. most of the modern clones now have took a hint from Ruger and they drill the frames to accept a coil and plunger. That has help a lot. AWA had the coil main spring setup. But the leaf hammer springs didn't fail near as often as the hand springs. The other problematic leaf is the twin trigger/bolt springs. There are some wire replacements. but, i find that most of them will lose tension over time. They don't break. They just get really light. If someone could figure out how to do one of those with a coil in it, much like Ruger trigger spring i do believe they would be more consist. Bottom line is if you are going to that much trouble just buy a Ruger.
  2. Much of the problems with the clones is the out dated leaf springs. Ruger are coil springs. Coil springs will always outlive leafs. Both will race. it just takes a lot more to make a model T ready to race
  3. My perspective on the various SAA's is from a gunsmiths view. Not what they cost or how well they retain their value. Purely from the mechanical perspective. If you want tuff out of the box, Ruger is the way to go, but I don`t consider it to be an SAA clone. The Ruger lock works were designed in the 1950-60's. It is nothing like the colt style lock basically unchanged since 1836. Comparing Rugers to a colt SAA or Colt SAA clone is like comparing 60`s muscle cars to model T`s.
  4. The EMF PIETTA's use 2nd gen screw sizes. These will work Socket cap, Alloy steel black oxide finish, #8-36 but will require fitting.
  5. After almost two years Rossi/Taurus/CBC is shipping guns again. Their most popular is the 20" stainless round barrel in 357 mag so these were first. I got some in September. but, recently I got some in 44mag too.
  6. Here ya go. Giraffe, 9, dies of ‘acute spinal cord injury’ in freak accident at Kansas City Zoo
  7. Two things. How far off the firing pins are the hammers when rebounded. If it's more than an 1/8th in. you can lower it some for a slightly stronger hit before it rebounds. Second, how close are the TTN/1878 springs? I have some of those.
  8. Fire forming cases usually involve down loaded and most times annealed brass rounds. I don't think fire forming at full pressures is a good idea. Shooting the 44 specials in a reamed 44-40 chamber can lead to ruptured cases which can lead to gas cutting in the chambers and enough blow back to cause injuries too. It's just not an industry acceptable practice.
  9. Reaming it so it will accept a 44 spec has put the chamber out of spec for both cals. At CAS ammo pressure it probably will sort of work. But, guns out live owners and the next feller may push it too far.
  10. Thanks, Over the years I've done several of these. Here one of the 86's with a 45lc Vaquero to match.
  11. This about sums it up. Thanks Allie Mo and old Ben
  12. The current Miroku Winchester not only has the tang safety and rebounding hammer, but it also has the shorter 5 piece inertia style firing pin. The original and the B 92 both have one piece full length firing pins. The current Miroku Winchester also has a lever actuated trigger block and a two piece trigger. The original and the B 92 do not have these add-on parts. I do fire control conversions on the guns. Here are the parts that get changed. The 5 piece firing pin not shown but is changed to the full length one piece original style They are all replaced with just 5 parts. The full conversion consist of welding up the tang safety hole and color-case hardening. Shown here with the hammer on the 1/4 cock safety.
  13. Unless the two piece firing pin is replaced with the one piece the Lever actuated trigger block is a secondary safety. The hammer can fall but the gun will not fire if the lever is even slightly down. The lever has to be fully up to lift the locking bolt in place behind the breech bolt. But, at the same time the locking bolt lifts the rear portion of the firing pin inline with the front part of the firing pin. Only then will it fire.
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