Buckshot Bob Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bear Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 What....no Curly Bill Brocius????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 One of my favorite bad guys was Morgan Woodward. I remember him in a movie I saw as a kid, I looked it up and think it was The Wild Country. He could be one mean rotten son of a biscuit. He was also a Texan and a Texas Longhorn like me, and he is buried in Arlington Tx some 180 miles east of here. Played the bad guy on many other show and movies as well (Like the original Star Trek). He just looked like a police sketch of a bad guy, and he sure had that mad dog face down pat. JHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I like the list. Lee Van Cleef takes it in many ways because his role was essentially always the villain. They list Lee Marvin as Liberty Valance; good enough, but he was a bit over the top there. He was even smoother as the wicked guy in Seven Men From Now with Randolph Scott, a classic performance. Likewise, Richard Boone was a great bad guy as Cicero Grimes in Hombre, but almost as good in The Tall T; that one also with Randolph Scott. But though both Marvin and Boone made great villains, they had too many other non-villainous roles to be pigeonholed as great villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Gene Hackman in “Unforgiven”; brutal and scary the way he threatened Morgan Freeman with just a whisper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Jack Nicholson, Missouri Breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Jeff Daniels in “Godless” https://m.imdb.com/title/tt5516154/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 William Holden as Pike Bishop in The Wild Bunch Henry Fonda as Frank in Once Upon a Time in the West Lee Marvin as Liberty Valance in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance Jack Palance as Jack Wilson in Shane Jeff Daniels as Frank Griffin in Godless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 I just keep thinking, how can Bruce Dern not at least make the list ? Who’s the worst, meaning the best, could probably start allot of saloon fights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe LaFives #5481 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Eli Wallach - Magnificent Seven First place though to Karl Malden in Nevada Smith - after all he had Steve McQueen's mother SKINNED in that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said: I just keep thinking, how can Bruce Dern not at least make the list ? Who’s the worst, meaning the best, could probably start allot of saloon fights. I thought you specified that in the OP. Mebbe I mistook it. I saw an interview with him about the making of The Cowboys, and The Duke told him "You know, some people will hate you forever!" JHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 24 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said: I just keep thinking, how can Bruce Dern not at least make the list ? Who’s the worst, meaning the best, could probably start allot of saloon fights. You should have been here 20 years ago. We used to have some damn good fights, some friendly virtual ones, some not so much. JHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 OBTW, ACS (ALWAYS capitalize Saloon) Rookies. JHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Haller Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Not much of a list if it doesn't include Bruce Dern! Let's see, he killed John Wayne ("The Cowboys"), hung Clint Eastwood ("Hang 'em High"), and beat the tar out of Charlton Heston ("Will Penny"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 And tried to kill Wild Bill Hickock (Jeff Bridges) from a wheelchair. He was just plain mean and despicable. And I will never forgive him for his cowardice and base immorality in The Cowboys. Mark of a great actor, I guess, that he has so deeply affected people by his performances. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Not as well known as the others mentioned but Ted Di Corsia played a great bad guy in many movies! This is him the The Quick Gun with Audie Murphy https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0208125/bio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Richard Boone in The Shootist and Big Jake. Bill McKenney and John Vernon in The Outlaw Josey Wales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 A list of the top ten most despicable villains that doesn’t include Bruce Dern is no list at all!! Fabulous actor and capable of playing either side of the fence with equal brilliance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 17 hours ago, Capt. James H. Callahan said: OBTW, ACS (ALWAYS capitalize Saloon) Rookies. JHC So sayeth Unick the Wonder Mule! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawhorse Kid Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 To name a few: Ian McShane: Al Swearengen - Deadwood Mark Harmon: Bruce Barkow - Crossfire Trail Gene Hackman: Little Bill Daggett - Unforgiven, Harod - The Quick and the Dead Lee Marvin - most characters played by him Richard Boone: Cisero Grimes - Hombre, John Fain - Big Jake, Mike Sweeney - The Shootist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 John Russell, DeForest Kelly, Jack Elam, Warren Oates, and even Victor French played totally despicable villains at one time or another. Don’t forget Ed Asner in Eldorado, or Glen Ford in The Man From Colorado!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocWard Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 When I read the title to the thread, I thought it meant, "OK, we know Bruce Dern is going to be at or near the top of most everyone's lists, so lets just set him aside and list the other greats without mentioning him." Then I watched the video, and saw he wasn't listed, and realized that you were posting the video out of disbelief and/or to be mocked. I will admit right now I have never been a fan of Who Shot Liberty Valance, despite being a fan of all the stars. The character was simply so over the top as to push my willing suspension of disbelief. Some enterprising soul would have shot him in the back and nobody would have seen a thing. 9 hours ago, LawMan Mark, SASS #57095L said: Richard Boone in The Shootist and Big Jake. Bill McKenney and John Vernon in The Outlaw Josey Wales. I have to disagree with you on John Vernon. His character, Fletcher, was held at gunpoint while his men were slaughtered, and afterward he felt obligated to join the pursuit. When he finally meets Josey face to face at the end, he says he owes him the first move. Bill McKenney, on the other hand, pretty much pegs the Villain-o-Meter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Sawhorse Kid said: Richard Boone: Cisero Grimes - Hombre, John Fain - Big Jake, Mike Sweeney - The Shootist And as Frank Usher in The Tall T; killing a young kid and throwing him down the well qualifies as villainy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Alan Rickman in Quigley Down Under [and most ANY of his roles] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 When I think of best Western movie villains I consider them like this: If I met them in real life would the job they did as a movie or TV show villain make me want to steer clear of them even though I know they were just acting? Only a few make that list: Bruce Dern Gene Hackman Eli Wallach Lee Van Cleef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: When I think of best Western movie villains I consider them like this: If I met them in real life would the job they did as a movie or TV show villain make me want to steer clear of them even though I know they were just acting? Only a few make that list: Bruce Dern Gene Hackman Eli Wallach Lee Van Cleef I ain't skeered of no Hollyweird actors Well, maybe Lee Van Cleef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: I ain't skeered of no Hollyweird actors Well, maybe Lee Van Cleef Oh, I wouldn’t be scared, just very very leery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 23 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: Oh, I wouldn’t be scared, just very very leery. I'd be scared, real scared, if he was coming after me...he's been dead for 34 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 I'm not sure I'd label Gene Hackman's Bill Dagget a villian when he was beating the hell out of the lying, slimey, English Bob. English Bob had it coming. Will Munny was probably the badest man in the movie but he was the reformed "hero". All said and done Will Munny was plain mean and certainly had the highest body count and had murdered plenty of men and other living beings along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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