Joe LaFives #5481

I would consider that fraud and would go to great lengths to tell as many folks as I could that he was unethical.

You could choose to play with just one Pistol and accept the misses too. But IF you want to do well you wouldn't

Craigslist here in Phoenix has a ton. I suspect that the Dallas Ft Worth area would be a great choice.

1. Was SASS (or CAS) your first foray into an organized firearms competition? No If you answered NO; a. What shooting game or games did you play prior and why start SASS? GSSF in 93, 94 and one Combat Pistol match in 1976 b. Was the cost of those games more or less than your SASS cost? Far less for the Glock match (just the pistol and ammo) - Far less for the Combat because it was in its infancy and no one had race guns. c. Did you have to/ choose to delay SASS because of the costs? No - had a good job. If you answered YES a. What brought you to SASS as opposed to any other shooting sport? Always had an interest in Cowboy stuff. Grew up with Westerns on TV and western movies and my friends who shot felt the same way. b. What hobby/ sport/ game did you participate in prior? LOTS, RC cars, Fencing, Golf, Tennis, board games, Basketball, general shooting, touch football, foosball. c. Were the costs of the above more or less than SASS entry? Pretty much all of them were cheaper - although RC Cars and Golf could be more now. d. Did you have to/ choose to delay SASS because of the costs? No - had a good job

Not strictly true. Used to be that you tricked out a Ruger or Colt by changing the main spring. And you didn't really touch the long gun or shotgun at all. Now a days. You pretty much add $300+ to each gun to get them up to competition speed (sometimes a LOT more) .

Seriously Ed - SASS has an enduring appeal and organization that none of the others had. I was attempting to answer the comments about an "SESS". I feel the most compelling argument is that most of us grew up in the heyday of westerns. In 1959 there were 29 prime time westerns on television. We are dealing with young people that don't even know what a western is. Young people that shoot today are interested in EBRs and the like.

Thanks Captain Obvious - that was my point

There have been at least 4 "spin offs" of SASS in the past 30 years. The First was Old West Shooting Association started by Bill Hahn - a former leader of SASS - His was One event a year in Raton New Mexico - Something like 36 stages and used just one pistol if I recall correctly. The second was NCOWS (still exists today but quite small relatively and very regional. They allow a lot more types of firearms and isn't as much of a competition. The third was WASA - This was started by a group from the old CAS City wire that predates the SASS wire. It was a non profit and lasted about 2-3 years. The forth is Western 3 Gun - This also still exists but in a much smaller capacity and allows more freedom of movement when shooting.

I've used 3 bullet pullers in the past 40 years. The first was a wood handled one and lasted about 20 years as I wasn't pulling a lot of bullets - only loading maybe a 600 rounds a year. The second was all plastic and lasted about 3 years - loading perhaps 5000 rounds a year. The last has lasted more than 15 years as it has a metal shaft - https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1012714588?pid=215517 I tend to hit my anvil and use a limp wrist and not too hard - usually 3 swings does the job.

I remember my wife and I talking to her about it at EOT some years ago . Jan is a vet as well. So many areas will provide money for vet school if a person promises to be a Large animal vet for them for a certain amount of time. Our BEST to her for a great career

The reason was that they made the movie - The long riders as the youngers, had the keach brothers and the quaid brothers all acting as members of the james younger gang.

I remember that Carradine attempted to buy Cole Younger's alias and then settled for Coleman.

I consider everything pre SASS wire as old days. So 2000.

yes it is