sarcasmn Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I am a big fan of Josey Wales after reading the book. I am thinking of getting one of the monster Walkers just for fun. I have a lot of experience shooting and hunting with muzzleloading rifles, both cap and flint lock. I do not however have any experience with black powder revolvers. Is the Uberti replica ok. I am sure there are members here that shoot black powder and could steer me in the right direction. Like I said, I doubt I would try to shoot matches with this thing but would like to dip a toe into percussion pistols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORNERY OAF Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I have 2, uberti makes awesome guns....only problem I ever had was the front sight fell off of one. The ram rod under the barrel drops if you use full loads but that was a failing common to the original as well. Someone showed me the small rubber bands ,like hair tie type, black, put over the rod and barrel after loading, works like a charm. I have plans on shooting Pale Rider gunfighter with them both one of these days. I'm earing my Wheaties first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasmn Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 Yeah I know they are a handful. I love history and these guns have great history. I want one just because. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 There are conversion cylinders available for them, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Made belt holsters for several with Walkers or Dragoons. One customer was about 5-feet tall and couldn't have weighed more than 110 lbs. He had virtually no hips. I wonder how he kept his pants up, especially if he sneezed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 One of the more impressive things I've seen in this sport was when a shooter named Lonesome Charlie Reynolds (now gone) showed up at a black powder shoot with his nephew. They called themselves "The Boom Brothers" and they both shot gunfighter with Walkers and Dragoons. It was fun to watch! And, yes, Uberti makes a very nice Walker. Had one when I was young & strong. Too Much Fun! --Dawg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Keep your off hand away from the cylinder face or anywhere forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Curly SASS#57086 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 They are a lot of fun to shoot. I loaded 60 grains of black powder and the boom is awesome . I shoot with a pard, alias is Sam Walker, from Cheyenne, who shoots gunfighter with his conversion cylinder Walkers at the last Hell on Wheels. Fun to watch. Enjoy, DC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasmn Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 You guys are bad for me to talk with. Now I want two walkers to shoot gunfighter with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORNERY OAF Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 You thought you could only have one????? Oh my, welcome to the madness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I had a pair for awhile, but dang, are they awful things to carry around all day. If you shoot full 60 grain loads, you're going to eventually notice frame deformation start developing just behind the wedge. Without a top strap, the wedge on open top C&B designs bears the full force of the ball slamming into the rifling along with all that pressure behind it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholla Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 He carried four revolvers, so you are just getting started. https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/The_Outlaw_Josey_Wales 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 If I shot gunfighter with any sort of Dragoons, I would by necessity have to shoot outlaw category. Not because it is fun and would look good, I just couldn't hold them both up to eye level. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Loose Moose Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 You better eat your wheaties, they weigh over 9lbs a piece unloaded. They’re essentially hand held revolving rifles. They sure do bark thunderously loud, they’ll make the mouse fart - powder puffers tuck their tails in shame and envy! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimstone Bill Willson Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 If you are not dead set on the Walker, a 3rd Model Dragoon is a little more refined version of the Walker with almost all the boom. If you really need all the boom, a Walker cylinder can be fitted on a Dragoon by a machinist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I'd opt for Dragoons over Walkers if shooting GF'r. The lack of a loading lever catch on a Walker might cause/will cause problems when the lever drops and ya have two loaded guns out simultaneously. (Unless there is a trick... and yes, I am aware a Dragoon might/can drop a loading lever too, but my experience with a Walker is about 100% it will...) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Curly SASS#57086 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 6 hours ago, Dantankerous said: I'd opt for Dragoons over Walkers if shooting GF'r. The lack of a loading lever catch on a Walker might cause/will cause problems when the lever drops and ya have two loaded guns out simultaneously. (Unless there is a trick... and yes, I am aware a Dragoon might/can drop a loading lever too, but my experience with a Walker is about 100% it will...) I made some leather strips with snaps to hold the loading lever from dropping. Will drop is what does happen. I kept them on my cart until time to cap, too much weight to carry all day. Walkers are beasts to shoot in a match. DC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Foot Johnson Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 9 hours ago, The Loose Moose said: You better eat your wheaties, they weigh over 9lbs a piece unloaded. They’re essentially hand held revolving rifles. They sure do bark thunderously loud, they’ll make the mouse fart - powder puffers tuck their tails in shame and envy! That sounded ridiculously heavy, so I weighed one and it looks like a hair under 4 1/2 pounds. Uberti's site says the 1847 is 4.46 pounds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 2/14/2024 at 1:53 PM, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: There are conversion cylinders available for them, too. Me, shooting my Walker with a conversion cylinder and an SAA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend P. Babcock Chase Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Howdy Sarcasmn, I occasionally shoot a .45 Colt converted 3rd model dragoon. When moving from one target to the next you can build up a lot of momentum that can be hard to stop at the next target in addition to finding yourself shooting lower and lower on each succeeding target due to the weight. Still it's a bunch of fun and style points. I would caution you to consider a later dragoon not just because of the ramming lever dropping. The Walker, like the earlier Patterson, has oval cylinder notches with no tapered lead. To operate reliably, a Walker has to be well set up and timed. On the other hand, if that's a handicap you are willing to accept, go for it. If you do, I'd suggest an '87 shotgun would also be right up your alley. I know as I often shoot one with my dragoon. Great fun and frustration. Rev. Chase 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcasmn Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 Funny you would say that. I have managed to get two 97’s one is a 08 coyote cap and the other was set up by Jimmy Spurs so I think I have two pretty good 97’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend P. Babcock Chase Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Howdy Sarcasmn, I said '87! I'm sure you are well prepared with the two '97's , but if you are going to go the Walker route you need to get a lever action '87. That way you can overcome any inconvenience that the walker creates in the stage with a true train wreck when you shoot the shotgun portion. In fact, you could actually go for the trifecta by picking up a Colt Lightning repro for your main match rifle. You'll have a blast then. Rev. Chase 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 i have one - its very nice , but im not gonna buy a second to use as main match revolvers - as stated above its a lot of weight to carry around all day - id use the 1860 or my 1851s before the 1847 , and i have those as well , so there you go , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 2/14/2024 at 1:24 PM, sarcasmn said: I am a big fan of Josey Wales after reading the book. I am thinking of getting one of the monster Walkers just for fun. I have a lot of experience shooting and hunting with muzzleloading rifles, both cap and flint lock. I do not however have any experience with black powder revolvers. Is the Uberti replica ok. I am sure there are members here that shoot black powder and could steer me in the right direction. Like I said, I doubt I would try to shoot matches with this thing but would like to dip a toe into percussion pistols. The Dragoon's are so much better guns then the Walker and almost as big . Easier to hang on too & holster all day . But still to heavy. So Saith The Rooster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blarney Kid Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/15/2024 at 4:36 AM, The Loose Moose said: You better eat your wheaties, they weigh over 9lbs a piece unloaded. They’re essentially hand held revolving rifles. They sure do bark thunderously loud, they’ll make the mouse fart - powder puffers tuck their tails in shame and envy! The Walker weighs 4 1/2 lbs. empty. Still plenty heavy to lug around all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come On Christmas Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) I read that from 1847 until the 357 magnum came along (@1935) it was THE most powerful handgun in existence. The loading lever can be a challenge as it drops down sometimes. I read that the reason the 1st model Dragoon came along soldiers were blowing them up overloading them because of the length of the cylinder. This and loading conical bullets backwards. I have had one. Recently I bought a used ASM 2nd model Dragoon. It I will never part with. It’s a moose as well. I watch for used Walkers on Gunbroker. Don’t see many. People get excited and bid em up too high. Now, soldier On With The Hunt! When you buy a LaMat know that a Minie Ball fits perfect inside a 20 gauge plastic wad in the shot shell barrel. Snicker Edited February 20 by Come On Christmas Addition of LeMat Referance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 my question is did they mess up the movie with an 1872 gatling gun at the end of the war surender stuff or was it the 1865 version in the movie ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cusz M. Dutch SASS Life 55326 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 You mentioned ML hunting. Ruger Old Army with a ball and a full load of H777 sure does the job on does 60 grains of Goex should work also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 I used to shoot Frontiersman a lot. A pard wanting to sell his Dragoon let me use it for a match. By the 5th stage my thumb, wrist and forearm were so tired and aching, I could barely complete the string. Cool pistol, but not for competition, so I passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe T Vator Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 FUN to shoot and absolutely can shoot matches with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Black_Powder_Magnum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.K. Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Before you try the "road agents spin" with the Walkers like Josey Wales, According to the Article in the latest American Rifleman, he used rubber replicas for that scene. A friend of mine had an Original Colt Walker. He never shot it. He was offered a lot of cash for it but it was handed down through his Wives family as far as I know he never sold it. Very Cool shootin iron! Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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