Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 3,233 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 https://www.foxnews.com/us/colt-suspending-production-of-ar-15-for-civilians Hmmm.... LL Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,524 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 There are so many AR’s out there I don’t blame Colt. They are one of the most expensive out there so I assume they’re having a tough time selling theirs. Link to post Share on other sites
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 891 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 No surprise. As they say, market pretty full, and they hope, I am sure, to reap some publicity points. Link to post Share on other sites
Pat Riot, SASS #13748 22,461 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 From what I hear they are deserving of this situation. Link to post Share on other sites
Dantankerous 4,347 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Plenty others from which to choose and enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun Clay 478 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 It's a miracle that Colt doesn't consist of empty factories. They're a text book case of how not to do things. Link to post Share on other sites
Smuteye John SASS#24774 2,796 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, Shotgun Clay said: It's a miracle that Colt doesn't consist of empty factories. They're a text book case of how not to do things. If it wasn't for their government contracts, they would. Coppering their bets on the next election, maybe? Link to post Share on other sites
Forty Rod SASS 3935 7,206 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Shotgun Clay said: It's a miracle that Colt doesn't consist of empty factories. They're a text book case of how not to do things. Kinda like Caterpillar in a different industry. Link to post Share on other sites
DocWard 5,414 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I honestly don't recall the last time I saw a new Colt of any kind in a gun shop. Doesn't seem like a major loss to the industry. Link to post Share on other sites
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 2,705 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Which is why they're bowing out, as Colt stated in the article. The market is flooded with too many others. Link to post Share on other sites
DocWard 5,414 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: Which is why they're bowing out, as Colt stated in the article. The market is flooded with too many others. Since your reply followed mine, I don't know if it was a response to mine or not. I've not seen new Colts of any kind in gun stores, either the one I work at or those I frequent locally. I get asked all the time if we have any Colt 1911s and the Colt Cobra in addition to ARs. The answer is invariably "no." I look to see if others have the same things when out, just because, and don't see them. I'm assuming they are out there, but not in particularly impressive numbers. Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,524 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 9 hours ago, DocWard said: I honestly don't recall the last time I saw a new Colt of any kind in a gun shop. Doesn't seem like a major loss to the industry. I bought a NEW Colt Cobra last year and then a NEW Colt King Cobra a few months ago at my LGS. There's several gun shops in the area and ranges and they all have new Colts. 1911's, New Revolvers (The Cobra line) and some AR's. I don't know where you're going but come up here to NE Ohio and you'll find new Colts all over!! I'll even take you to lunch Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Harley, #14153 2,962 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 This is an economic/business decision that will be spun as socially “aware”. Link to post Share on other sites
Trigger Mike 1,038 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Bass pro has the colt king cobra (or did til I got there) and a 1911. I didn't ask if they had an AR. I recall under Obama a colt AR would sell for 1100 , then Obama would talk about gun control and the colt would jump to 2000 but other brands not as much, especially the no name brands. I recall a time even during the 2000 a piece era that safari still brought only 800. Colt always held value on its name alone. Sad they are stopping. Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,524 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 My LGS and range (where I used to work part time) has a used Colt AR for around $850.00, I'm thinking about it! Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. James H. Callahan 1,579 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 12 hours ago, Smuteye John SASS#24774 said: If it wasn't for their government contracts, they would. Coppering their bets on the next election, maybe? Hasn't FN had the govt. contracts for a few years now? JHC Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,524 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Capt. James H. Callahan said: Hasn't FN had the govt. contracts for a few years now? JHC Yes for the pistols, and Beretta before that. Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. James H. Callahan 1,579 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I thought I heard they got the contract for 16's (M-4s, whatever) but maybe I got it wrong. JHC Link to post Share on other sites
sassnetguy50 311 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Charlie Harley, #14153 said: This is an economic/business decision that will be spun as socially “aware”. Sounds like the media is twisting it that way, not Colt. https://www.colt.com/news/2630 Link to post Share on other sites
Chuck Steak 331 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Maybe we can just buy some of the other great - low priced rifles made by colt. Wait - maybe not Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,524 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, Capt. James H. Callahan said: I thought I heard they got the contract for 16's (M-4s, whatever) but maybe I got it wrong. JHC I found this: Colt will instead concentrate on fulfilling military and law enforcement contracts with its rifle manufacturing. Veilleux said the company has been awarded "significant" military and law enforcement contracts. "Currently, these high-volume contracts are absorbing all of Colt's manufacturing capacity for rifles," he said. Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. James H. Callahan 1,579 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 This was from 2013, they have a more recent article that Colt and FN have a joint contract thru 2020. JHC https://www.guns.com/news/2013/02/26/fn-lands-army-m4-contract-underbids-colt-remington Link to post Share on other sites
Hashknife Cowboy 480 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 The press release I heard was, suspending manufacturing of civilian models until all pending government contracts are fulfilled. Then production will resume. They also stated that the market currently possess several of their civilian rifles and there is no current shortage. Personally why the media release and I’d rather see increased production of revolvers. Just my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 3,233 Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: I found this: Colt will instead concentrate on fulfilling military and law enforcement contracts with its rifle manufacturing. Veilleux said the company has been awarded "significant" military and law enforcement contracts. "Currently, these high-volume contracts are absorbing all of Colt's manufacturing capacity for rifles," he said. And those customers do not whine about "weapons designed for the battlefield" or complain about lethality. LL Link to post Share on other sites
Colorado Coffinmaker 3,450 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Well ..... BYE Link to post Share on other sites
DocWard 5,414 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: I bought a NEW Colt Cobra last year and then a NEW Colt King Cobra a few months ago at my LGS. There's several gun shops in the area and ranges and they all have new Colts. 1911's, New Revolvers (The Cobra line) and some AR's. I don't know where you're going but come up here to NE Ohio and you'll find new Colts all over!! I'll even take you to lunch Interesting! I've been on the lookout at both our store, and a couple of small local gun stores. I did check briefly at one larger stand alone gun store as well when I was there. I don't have any intent to buy, more just curiosity. If I make it up that way though, I'll look you up for lunch! Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,524 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, DocWard said: Interesting! I've been on the lookout at both our store, and a couple of small local gun stores. I did check briefly at one larger stand alone gun store as well when I was there. I don't have any intent to buy, more just curiosity. If I make it up that way though, I'll look you up for lunch! You’re on!!! One of the ranges/gun shops has a King Cobra and a New Night Cobra. They also have a Colt AR for $1500.!!!Yikes!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Sixgun Sheridan 4,254 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Colt had exclusive rights to manufacture the M4 for the military during the early 2000s, right in the middle of two wars. They charged the government full retail... $1000 per rifle. Despite that they still went bankrupt in 2013. If that doesn't tell you something is seriously wrong with the company I don't know what else is. Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Nichols, SASS #6461 277 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 You can find Colt AR's all over Texas for under a grand, 6920's go for $900 or so!? Rye they are NOT nor ever were one of the most expensive. You want expensive I have 2 Noveske's that retailed for over $2600 apiece !!! AND YES they are worth every penny......can't compare a Corolla to a Porsche. La Rues are also way up there as well as KAC and a cpl others. Colt has NEVER been a friend of gun owners, they been running on their name for far too long. I wish they would finally go belly up, I truly do. Link to post Share on other sites
Pat Riot, SASS #13748 22,461 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Well ..... BYE Right On! Link to post Share on other sites
Rye Miles #13621 6,524 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Dutch Nichols, SASS #6461 said: You can find Colt AR's all over Texas for under a grand, 6920's go for $900 or so!? Rye they are NOT nor ever were one of the most expensive. You want expensive I have 2 Noveske's that retailed for over $2600 apiece !!! AND YES they are worth every penny......can't compare a Corolla to a Porsche. La Rues are also way up there as well as KAC and a cpl others. Colt has NEVER been a friend of gun owners, they been running on their name for far too long. I wish they would finally go belly up, I truly do. I stand by what I said. I said they were ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE! I know there's others that are more expensive but they're up there compared to many others. They can't compete with $400-$500 rifles. They're concentrating on their military and LE contracts. Good for them! Personally I love Colt firearms and I wish them the best! Link to post Share on other sites
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