Jump to content
SASS Wire Forum

Socialist 2nd Lt. Discharged


Recommended Posts

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/19/west-point-grad-who-posed-with-communism-will-win-in-cap-discharged.html

 

So...I have two questions:

 

  • Why did this fella waste his time and our money by going to West Point?
  • Are there really, as he claims, lots of active duty and vets who "feel the way he does"?????

 

LL

Link to post
Share on other sites
32 minutes ago, Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 said:

...Are there really, as he claims, lots of active duty and vets who "feel the way he does"?????

 

LL

 

I would seriously doubt there are lots of vets who think the same way he does but certainly there are some. I can name one right now. John Kerry.

Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, Chili Ron said:

Howdy,

I couldn't read the article due to popups and nonsense.

Best

CR

 

Here:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/west-point-grad-who-posed-with-communism-will-win-in-cap-discharged/ar-AAyPXpa

 

Personally I wish they'd never given this anti-American creep the time of day. If he loves communism so much nothing's stopping him from moving to Cuba.

Link to post
Share on other sites

 Except for having to feed the little bastard, a little time at Leavenworth would be a good thing!!

 

Failing to protect and defend the Constitution!!!

 

OH! And a good long blanket party!!!

Link to post
Share on other sites
40 minutes ago, Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 said:

So...I have two questions:

 

  • Why did this fella waste his time and our money by going to West Point?
  • Are there really, as he claims, lots of active duty and vets who "feel the way he does"?????

 

LL

 

My guess is that he was probably very gung ho as a high schooler, but for whatever reasons his attitude shifted once at West Point. Whether a result of a rebellion against the environment of a military academy, fear at the realization that he could be going into harm's way, the awareness that he doesn't actually have what it takes inside to be a leader regardless of his success there, or some other factor or combination. I'm sure psychological testing of him would be fascinating.

As it is, I certainly hope the Army puts him on the hook for the value of his education, and makes sure it is paid in full. Too many people would have walked into his shoes and been successful given the opportunity, and more yet never had the opportunity.

As for your second question, "lots?" In the greater scheme of things, no. Are they out there? Of course. Given the numbers of military and veterans, it is almost guaranteed that there are socialists and communists in the ranks, serving quietly. There are plenty of veterans who have become disillusioned with the military, the use of the military by the government, and what our own government stands for. You have to think though, to him, thousands would likely constitute "lots." As a percentage of our military community though, that is a drop in the bucket.

Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, DocWard said:

You have to think though, to him, thousands would likely constitute "lots." As a percentage of our military community though, that is a drop in the bucket.

 

That's the point I was going to make. If he's basing his estimate on social media activity, even if he went to the trouble of counting individuals instead of just adding up his "likes" and "shares," he'd be completely buried if even 1% of veterans and active duty people responded to him.

 

Also, just because somebody likes or comments favorably on a post doesn't mean they support you. I imagine a lot of his "followers" are too yellow to hang a Cuban or Russian flag on their front porch.

 

I wonder if my grandson ever saw the guy. He drives a truck for the 10th.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Too bad they can't revoke his degree.

 

Mebbe, as Doc suggested, they can bill him for it*. He certainly didn't deliver on his half of the bargain...  :angry:

 

*Something in the neighborhood of $300 grand.  

Link to post
Share on other sites

If I recall in my discussions with Officers when I was in the Navy for every year of college paid for by the Navy one was obligated to serve a year. If something occurred that one couldn't fulfill his or her obligation the Navy expected reimbursement. But I do not know any of the details in this regard.

 

As to how many Commies are in our military? One is one too many.

 

I have known people that were very left leaning that served in the military. When I asked how they felt about the military and their politics the usual answer was that they didn't broadcast their political leanings, but each one of these individuals did their duty and served honorably. That is all anyone can ask and I can respect that, even though I did not agree with their politics.

Link to post
Share on other sites

it amazes me how those with an education and the ability to explore things around them still think communism works after watching communist countries fall apart or stay stagnant in poverty.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Punk.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, different; but we don't need either here and really wish anyone that wants either would LEAVE and go where that mess already exists.

Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

 Except for having to feed the little bastard, a little time at Leavenworth would be a good thing!!

 

Failing to protect and defend the Constitution!!!

 

OH! And a good long blanket party!!!

Remember, it's not waterboarding if you use diesel.

Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said:

Socialism and Communism are different. They were at war with each other when Hitler (Socialism) attacked USSR (Communism) in Operation Barbarosa.

pretty good breakdown here in a nutshell.

 

Quote

 

The Difference Between Communism and Socialism

Communism and socialism are economic and political structures that promote equality and seek to eliminate social classes. The two are interchangeable in some ways, but different in others.

In a communist society, the working class owns everything, and everyone works toward the same communal goal. There are no wealthy or poor people -- all are equal, and the community distributes what it produces based only on need. Nothing is obtained by working more than what is required.

Communism frequently results in low production, mass poverty and limited advancement. Poverty spread so widely in the Soviet Union in the 1980s that its citizens revolted.

Like communism, socialism’s main focus is on equality. But workers earn wages they can spend as they choose, while the government, not citizens, owns and operates the means for production. Workers receive what they need to produce and survive, but there’s no incentive to achieve more, leaving little motivation.

Some countries have adopted aspects of socialism. The United Kingdom provides basic needs like healthcare to everyone regardless of their time or effort at work. In the U.S., welfare and the public education system are a form of socialism.

Both are the opposite of capitalism, where limitations don’t exist and reward comes to those who go beyond the minimum. In capitalist societies, owners are allowed to keep the excess production they earn. And competition occurs naturally, which fosters advancement. Capitalism tends to create a sharp divide between the wealthiest citizens and the poorest, however, with the wealthiest owning the majority of the nation's resources.


 


 
Link to post
Share on other sites

Want to see some “spin”?

Google “Communism vs Socialism” then click on images.

I will just leave it at that because anything else I say will be moderated and I will get a spanking. :P

Link to post
Share on other sites

It's too bad they accepted his resignation. I guess they just wanted to be done with the embarrassment.

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm sure there are many Gold star families, who would love to have a 'meeting' with this POS.

I know my 3 combat vet, sons, sure would.

I just don'r understand how this POS made it all the way to graduation, with his 'head', where it is.

OLG

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
26 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said:

It's too bad they accepted his resignation. I guess they just wanted to be done with the embarrassment.

 

 

If they'd kept him around in order to discipline him or for a court martial, he'd have been an ongoing distraction. This way he's somebody else's problem.

Link to post
Share on other sites

In the gulf war a young Marine Lcpl went on 20-20 to announce he was a conseintous objector liberal media ate it up. I can not speak for him specifically but I believe he joined for the G.I. bill. He was a reserve in a unit near San Francisco.

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said:

just don'r understand how this POS made it all the way to graduation, with his 'head', where it is.

OLG

I can’t believe he kept it under his hat for 4 years with roommates and commanders. :blink::angry:

Link to post
Share on other sites

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/06/19/commie-cadet-sends-vulgar-message-on-his-way-out-of-the-army/?utm_source=clavis

 

They knew.  

 

Quote

Even while still a cadet, Rapone’s online postings alarmed a West Point history professor, who wrote Rapone up, saying his online postings were “red flags that cannot be ignored.” Rapone was disciplined but still allowed to graduate.

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, Utah Bob #35998 said:

I can’t believe he kept it under his hat for 4 years with roommates and commanders. :blink::angry:

If this is the guy I am thinking about, all of west point knew. Seen it a number of different  times on facebook

Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, DocWard said:

My guess is that he was probably very gung ho as a high schooler, but for whatever reasons his attitude shifted once at West Point.

 

When this first came on the national scene my gut feeling was that he knew exactly what he was doing and wanted to get a first class education on the taxpayers dime, then get kicked out and not have to pay a cent. 

 

 

8 hours ago, DocWard said:

As it is, I certainly hope the Army puts him on the hook for the value of his education, and makes sure it is paid in full.


Ditto. But I'm not holding my breath.  

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said:

I’ll bet we have not seen the last of him. He will run for office in a blue state. 

 

I can think of a couple states he could get voted in as governor...

Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

When this first came on the national scene my gut feeling was that he knew exactly what he was doing and wanted to get a first class education on the taxpayers dime, then get kicked out and not have to pay a cent. 

 

 


Ditto. But I'm not holding my breath.  

 

It could very well be. It could also be, as has been suggested, that his beliefs and opinions shifted while deployed. I had forgotten about his deployment prior to West Point.

I actually will not be surprised if he is handed the bill for his education, since there are legislators and others who are incredibly angry about this. I won't hold my breath, I will cross my fingers.

Link to post
Share on other sites
16 hours ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said:

I’ll bet we have not seen the last of him. He will run for office in a blue state. 

 

There's a socialist wingnut on the Seattle city council (Kshama Sawant) who would probably love to have his child.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.