Doc Coles SASS 1188 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I have long ago sworn not to watch American guns, but made a mistake while I was switching by and saw the section about sporterizing a guy's 1898 Krag. The guy says that its his grandfather's gun and the dolts behind the counter blather on about how its one of the nicest ones they have seen in years. Then the idiot gun owner says "I want to get it sporterized" and the idiots behind the counter agree to do it! WOW! No ethical gunsmith should agree to do that job. Tell the guy to buy one of the readily available cut up guns and do what he wants to that. Offer to buy the original gun and get him a cut up example to make the way he wants. If it comes right down to it, decline the job. As a gunsmith I, and I presume the idiots at Gunsmoke don't need money bad enough to do this job. It made my blood boil and I was yelling at the TV. Absolutely disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Jack, SASS #77862 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I've watched it twice, twice was enough for me. I get it that it's supposed to be entertainment on TV, but I choose to be entertained elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Hey Mad Dog... I have a REALLY nice Swedish Mauser. It all matches, and has the sling, cleaning rod etc. It shoots the 6.5 X 55 unbelievable well. I want to have it sporterized and made into 357 Colt Python... 6" What cha think? Snakebite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Jack, SASS #77862 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Hey Mad Dog... I have a REALLY nice Swedish Mauser. It all matches, and has the sling, cleaning rod etc. It shoots the 6.5 X 55 unbelievable well. I want to have it sporterized and made into 357 Colt Python... 6" What cha think? Snakebite I think, therefor I am! I used to have one of those in carbine form. Converted it into something useful.. a pistol stocked bolt action and an 12" barrel in 45-70. It was a blast to shoot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Hey Mad Dog... I have a REALLY nice Swedish Mauser. It all matches, and has the sling, cleaning rod etc. It shoots the 6.5 X 55 unbelievable well. I want to have it sporterized and made into 357 Colt Python... 6" What cha think? Snakebite Not exotic enough of a caliber. But you do need to get away from the unimpressive 6.5 ballistics. Needs to be something in the 300-375 gargantuan short action over-bored ultra belted behemoth magnum to take down any four legged thin skinned medium game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarheel Rifleman, SASS # 23477 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 It made my blood boil and I was yelling at the TV. Absolutely disgusting. Me too. It looked like they really cut up that original, but I hoped it was another 'fake' build like the "custom howda pistol" that was really a Pedersoli or the 'custom buntline barrel' that had Uberti stampings on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Cord Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 It sure looked like they chopped it up to me. The prices this guy quotes for stuff are so unrealistic too! In return for thousands of dollars they will turn your primo collector grade rifle into a $500 shooter!! If you kept watching he absolutely bends his "friend" over for $2600 for a S&W 686 with a marginal gunsmith doing some "improvements" and adding a little engraving. Me too. It looked like they really cut up that original, but I hoped it was another 'fake' build like the "custom howda pistol" that was really a Pedersoli or the 'custom buntline barrel' that had Uberti stampings on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Shot my first elk with a 30-40 Krag in original condition. Given to me by my father-in-law. Guys in camp laughed at my old gun. That was until I was the only one who got an elk that year. Fine rifle. Shot was about 275 yards off hand. and that's the truth, not some 3 hour marathon story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kajun Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 If you kept watching he absolutely bends his "friend" over for $2600 for a S&W 686 with a marginal gunsmith doing some "improvements" and adding a little engraving. Imagine what he would have done to him if he wasn't his "friend." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolan Kraps, SASS # 24084 Life Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Stupid show. Just like any "reality" show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Will Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 It IS a "produced " TV. Show.... all scripted... ec Xcept for the Dragoons(?)! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusta B. Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 If you kept watching he absolutely bends his "friend" over for $2600 for a S&W 686 with a marginal gunsmith doing some "improvements" and adding a little engraving. Yep, it takes a lot of money to support his ego & all that silly-cone on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I always wanted a 1.7 x .505 Gibbs in a concealable snubbie! I wonder if there is a gumsmith that can convert an original Remington O/U Double Deringer to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Sgt. Jake McCandless #3368 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I don't watch it anymore as I end up yelling at the TV more that if I was watching some Moronic politician,raises ma blood pressure. Adios Sgt. Jake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Ringer Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Hey Mad Dog... I have a REALLY nice Swedish Mauser. It all matches, and has the sling, cleaning rod etc. It shoots the 6.5 X 55 unbelievable well. I want to have it sporterized and made into 357 Colt Python... 6" What cha think? Those clowns on the t.v. could make that happen. There are just genius. Here's how it could go down. Melt down the mauser and pull up the blue prints for the Python From the internet. Next machine the python from the melted down mauser. Mix in a little hottie and gunsmith drama and it's done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Shot my first elk with a 30-40 Krag in original condition. Given to me by my father-in-law. Guys in camp laughed at my old gun. That was until I was the only one who got an elk that year. Fine rifle. Shot was about 275 yards off hand. and that's the truth, not some 3 hour marathon story. This is the biggest pile of HS that I've ever read... any fool knows that you can't shoot an elk with a 30-40 Krag unless it has been sporterized. I just can't believe you would try to sell that load of crap to all these guy on the wire. GEEEZE! Snakebite Wanta swap that gun off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 This is the biggest pile of HS that I've ever read... any fool knows that you can't shoot an elk with a 30-40 Krag unless it has been sporterized. I just can't believe you would try to sell that load of crap to all these guy on the wire. GEEEZE! Snakebite Wanta swap that gun off? ??? I hope that's sarcasm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 It is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twelve mile REB Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 ??? I hope that's sarcasm... No need to hope, it is. The only thing dumber than Gunsmoke is anyone that would waste time looking at it. Except perhaps someone that would give them money to produce it. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafe Conager SASS #56958 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I watched and yelled at the tv to, I stopped watching regularly when he wanted to charge a guy $3000 for a Springfield .45acp that lists for $1200, then made a deal with him for $1500. I only watch now if they have a historical gun on it. Rafe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crooked jake,4371 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I have long ago sworn not to watch American guns, but made a mistake while I was switching by and saw the section about sporterizing a guy's 1898 Krag. The guy says that its his grandfather's gun and the dolts behind the counter blather on about how its one of the nicest ones they have seen in years. Then the idiot gun owner says "I want to get it sporterized" and the idiots behind the counter agree to do it! WOW! No ethical gunsmith should agree to do that job. Tell the guy to buy one of the readily available cut up guns and do what he wants to that. Offer to buy the original gun and get him a cut up example to make the way he wants. If it comes right down to it, decline the job. As a gunsmith I, and I presume the idiots at Gunsmoke don't need money bad enough to do this job. It made my blood boil and I was yelling at the TV. Absolutely disgusting. Feel yer pain Doc ..........I don't watch it or the one with the blonde with the whiney voice ......good to know some still have ethics .......good on ya Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARSHAL W.E. BGood SASS 18429 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 On wanna convert my original 1878-manufacture Colt SAA into a top-break Webley-Vickers 50-80...can you help me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 No need to hope, it is. The only thing dumber than Gunsmoke is anyone that would waste time looking at it. Except perhaps someone that would give them money to produce it. 12 Gunsmoke is one of the finest programs ever made! American Guns is one of the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacknife Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Don't yall laugh when they convert my Browning 410 over under into a side match derringer. Gonna put anything on the market to shame. Coming to a side match near you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fillmore Coffins, SASS #7884 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Hey Mad Dog... I have a REALLY nice Swedish Mauser. It all matches, and has the sling, cleaning rod etc. It shoots the 6.5 X 55 unbelievable well. I want to have it sporterized and made into 357 Colt Python... 6" What cha think? Snakebite Hey Snakebite. When I had my store in the 90's, it was the heyday of the Swedish Mauser importation. I used to joke that I bought them by the cord as I received 20 to 50 a week and always had guys waiting to dig thru and find the treasures. Man those were good times! Fillmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Don't yall laugh when they convert my Browning 410 over under into a side match derringer. Gonna put anything on the market to shame. Coming to a side match near you. You will have to shoot it "Gang Banger" style..... Snakebite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I wonder how much it would cost to convert an SKS to a '73. Maybe have them redo a 1st Gen to look like a Ruger.........you know, just to give it "the look". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Hey Snakebite. When I had my store in the 90's, it was the heyday of the Swedish Mauser importation. I used to joke that I bought them by the cord as I received 20 to 50 a week and always had guys waiting to dig thru and find the treasures. Man those were good times! Fillmore I think that I bought mine something back then... got it at Herb Bauer's sporting Goods. I bought it to shoot the long range matches at CVR... and then when (U No Who) put that jacketed round through the front window of a house over in Los Osos, they stopped allowing jacketed ammo. (a good thing). It shoots OK with gas checked hard lead, but with the jacketed stuff it is absolutely amazingly accurate. They are actually bringing a very good price now. SAMCO can no longer get them, and the surplus supply seems to be drying up. It has been a tough decision to have it made into a Python. I'm still checking around to get the best price for the conversion. Snakebite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.O. Curly Jim Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Howdy: I gots ya all beat..I want my pristine Luger carbine re-done in .45 Win Mag...Maybe send if down thar and have them do it fer me..whatcha all think?? Maybe even it is supressed??? Seriously..these guys have no idea and the sad part is 99% of the folks that watch the show are just as misinformed as they are. It's scripted..I have been on "Pawn Stars"..some NatGeo episodes and the like and it really is a bit disappointing when you see what all goes on behind the scenes... Curly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Jack, SASS #77862 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 It has been a tough decision to have it made into a Python. I'm still checking around to get the best price for the conversion. Snakebite I'll do it! I'll do it! FREE! Can't beat that! I'll read up on what needs to be done, meantime meet me at Adobe Walls with the gun. I'm sure I could get it back to you sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Shot my first elk with a 30-40 Krag in original condition. Given to me by my father-in-law. Guys in camp laughed at my old gun. That was until I was the only one who got an elk that year. Fine rifle. Shot was about 275 yards off hand. and that's the truth, not some 3 hour marathon story. Oh...I thought you were going to say you killed Bin Laden with it. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Cord Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 What's wrong with silly-cone? Yep, it takes a lot of money to support his ego & all that silly-cone on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Cord Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Double action conversions of this model and caliber are actually quite common. The semi-auto version is a bit tougher to do and you won't see many of those around. I bet the guys from American Guns could do it for you. Now you just have to decide on the finish you want. Black or green spray paint? p.s. Magna-porting is gonna cost you a bit extra but is highly recommended. I always wanted a 1.7 x .505 Gibbs in a concealable snubbie! I wonder if there is a gumsmith that can convert an original Remington O/U Double Deringer to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Believe the record elk was killed with a Krag. I slobber all over em at gunshows but haven't bit yet. My pocketbook is still reeling from having THE original Billy Dixon Sharps rebarreled and the wood all redone. Honestly, I watched maybe 10 minutes of the first episode and never went back. What a croc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samcro Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Fake Shop with Fake Boobies where everything cost 10k and that's the only kinda customers he wants. I been in a lot of shop and never once NO NOT ONCE have I seen a guy offer cash, gold bullion and a Rolex watch for a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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