El Sobrante Kid Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 ... Spray Case Lube was highly recommended in my other thread, and I have some on the way. For those of you who use One Shot, what have you found that contributes to success or failure? I'm curious if anyone tries to, or tries not to, get any on the inside of the case mouth, and what your results were. The case mouth sees at least some contact from both internal sizing and flaring. The label says that One Shot will not contaminate powder or primers, but I'll go with experience over labels, every time. Thank you for your comments and suggestions, the Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I have used it for years loading for Cowboy and before that Highpower Rifle Silhouette and Huner Pistol Silhouette. Never worried about getting any inside the case mouth which is does. No affect on the loads from that. It is a non issue as far as I am concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Yup, it is good stuff. If it is hot out when I am drying my brass outside, I give it a light coat on the cookie sheet it's on. If I have dried it in the oven, once it cools, it goes into an ammo can where it will get a quick coat, I close and shake the can, then give it another spray and shake again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erasmus Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Most failures I've seen come from not letting the brass dry after spraying with one-shot. If you don't let it dry (it's a dry lubricant in a fluid carrier) your cases may stick. Other than that, I try to get some in the case mouth just to ensure I don't pull the shoulder back out when my expander ball exits the case mouth. For "precision" stuff I'll then trim, tumble, and load. I don't imagine One Shot will contaminate powder, but I can't imagine it's doing any favors towards keep consistent amounts of friction on the bullet despite consistent nec tension. Though I've never actually checked, so maybe I'm overthinking things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Dump some hulls in a plastic box. (This brass is dirty but it is all I had for the photos.) Give it a LIGHT spritz. (A second or two max.) You do not need or want to soak or try to totally cover the brass. Just a light misting. Shake the box from side to side three or four times. This will make a number of shells turn on end. Give the shells another light spritz. You want the lube in the case mouths. Again do not try to soak the brass or cover everything. The lube will self disperse and be dry to the touch in just a few minutes. The lube will NOT harm the powder and makes life a lot easier even with carbide dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Be sure to shake the can well before using and periodically if you are applying to more than one lot of brass. It dries pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 On a Dillon the powder funnel in the powder measure serves two purposes. The straight part on the bottom expands the case after it has been resized and the tapered part above it puts the funnel on the case to ease bullet seating. On thick neck cases like .45 Colt (particularly new brass) the brass tends to stick on the expander and contributes to hard cycling of the press and is often responsible for the case popping off the expander/funnel and shaking out some powder. The One Shot makes this process noticeably easier and smoother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Creek Jack Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Yep, used it for several years, good stuff and never a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horace Patootie, SASS #35798 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I orient my cases on a cookie sheet facing away from me. Spray them, then tilt the cookie sheet which rolls the cases a little. Spray them again. Horace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Hornady One Shot is good stuff and I've used it before. Being cheap, I mix my own spray case lubricant with lanolin and 99% Isopropyl alcohol. Mix it 12-1 and put it in a spray bottle. It's like an action job for your press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Dobbs Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 10 minutes ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said: Hornady One Shot is good stuff and I've used it before. Being cheap, I mix my own spray case lubricant with lanolin and 99% Isopropyl alcohol. Mix it 12-1 and put it in a spray bottle. It's like an action job for your press. This….used one shot till I started shooting a lot of high powered rifle then to keep from suffering more from Bidenomics I started making my own with the recipe above and been very happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Ron Wayne Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Works great . Used it for years . Zero issues. Rooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 One thing Hornady One-Shot is not good for is as a lubricant for Rifle calibers. This would encompass cartridges where the case length exceeds about 1.5" unless you are using Carbide dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 i use balistol , granted im new to needing to ibe cases to resize , but itr works well so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 6 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: One thing Hornady One-Shot is not good for is as a lubricant for Rifle calibers. This would encompass cartridges where the case length exceeds about 1.5" unless you are using Carbide dies. Never had a problem using it on rifle cases up to and including .458 Ackley Magnum. I don’t use it if I’m having to form cases from basic brass or other serious case forming operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 I just started using One shot this year. From above posts, I think I've been using way too much! I get an oily build up on the shell plate while loading. I do like the cases being dry when loaded and not needing to be cleaned off like Dillon lube or homemade lanolin/alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 20 minutes ago, Eyesa Horg said: I just started using One shot this year. From above posts, I think I've been using way too much! I get an oily build up on the shell plate while loading. I do like the cases being dry when loaded and not needing to be cleaned off like Dillon lube or homemade lanolin/alcohol. It doesn’t take much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 4 minutes ago, Boggus Deal #64218 said: It doesn’t take much. Thanks, that's what I'm gathering. They sit at least 10 minutes before loading and feel dry to the touch. I have been throwing a couple hundred brass at a time in a box cover lying flat, spray ,shake around,spray, then let sit while I get the loader set and adjusted. Will try cutting waay back! Even though the can says to get it in the mouth, I have avoided that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 As I don’t expand the case mouths of pistol brass, I don’t try to get any in there but the don’t try to avoid it, either. On bottle necked rifle cases that I’m not using a carbide expander button, I do try to get a little in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go West Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 I spray a couple of shots in my case feeder and let the swirling mix it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 7 hours ago, watab kid said: i use balistol , granted im new to needing to ibe cases to resize , but itr works well so far Same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 7 hours ago, watab kid said: i use balistol , granted im new to needing to ibe cases to resize , but itr works well so far I prefer a non-oily case lube. Ballistol is at least 60% white mineral oil. (See https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0723/3621/2253/files/SDS-WTC-Ballistol-Multi-Purpose-Liquid-Revision-4.pdf?v=1694022408.) Powder contaminated with oil burns poorly. Oil can contaminate primers so they will not ignite. I've helped clear two squibs this year already. One at EOT and another at a local match this month. I keep oil away from powder and primers when reloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Well heck. I have always used DILLON case lube for resizing. Never had any sort of problem. I have also never bothered to remove the lube from the loaded rounds before firing. Nary a problem there either. I are, however, willing to give One Shot a try next time I run out of Dillon case lube. Oh, most forgot. I make sure all the cases are on their sides inna shoe box before I squirt (lightly) then shake the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 9 hours ago, watab kid said: i use balistol Probably one of the worse choice you could make. Ballistol is oil. Oil and primers and power do not play well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: Probably one of the worse choice you could make. Ballistol is oil. Oil and primers and power do not play well together. I, too, have used Ballistol for years. But not spraying it onto the brass. Just a tiny bit on my fingertips which I use on the outside of my 44-40 and 32-20 cases, so none gets inside or in the primer pockets.. I load both of those calibers in low volume so this is doable. I have often heard of using lube on regular straight wall cases just to make the press run easier and I think I will get some One Shot and start doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 I hate it when a manufacturer uses the same name for different products. Jeep has the Cherokee and Grand Cherokee. Ruger, the Vaquero and New Vaquero. One of the worse was Hodgdon with Clays, Universal Clays and International Clays. Hornady has done the same thing with One Shot. They have one for case lube and one for gun lube. In this thread are talking about the one on the left in the Red can. Not the one on the right in the Black can. For lubing cases Red good, black bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 4 minutes ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: I, too, have used Ballistol for years. But not spraying it onto the brass. Just a tiny bit on my fingertips which I use on the outside of my 44-40 and 32-20 cases, so none gets inside or in the primer pockets. Sort of the point of a spray on lube. Ease of use. Plus a little lube in the case neck makes cycling the press easier. Finger lubing cases and the old lube pads went out with 45 RPM records. (I still have hundreds of old 45s. I have been trying to convert them to digital to make listening to them easier.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 One other problem with oil (not so much on pistol cases) is if you use it on rifle cases you can get oil dents. Ask me how I know? Back around 1960 I grabbed a can of the "wonder" lube that does everything - WD-40 - and sprayed it on some .30-06 cases. The results were less than optimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kajun Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 18 hours ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said: Hornady One Shot is good stuff and I've used it before. Being cheap, I mix my own spray case lubricant with lanolin and 99% Isopropyl alcohol. Mix it 12-1 and put it in a spray bottle. It's like an action job for your press. Cheap doesn't even begin to describe how tight, thrifty and economical you are! Why even Ben Franklin squints when you actually open up your wallet, he ain't seen the light of day in ages! 🤣 Krazy (wut uses Hornady One Shot on pistol brass and Evil Bob's choice on bottleneck rifle brass) Kajun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedalia Dave Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 41 minutes ago, Krazy Kajun said: Cheap doesn't even begin to describe how tight, thrifty and economical you are! Why even Ben Franklin squints when you actually open up your wallet, he ain't seen the light of day in ages! 🤣 Krazy (wut uses Hornady One Shot on pistol brass and Evil Bob's choice on bottleneck rifle brass) Kajun What's this Evil Bob's choice you are referring to??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump Water Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: Hornady has done the same thing with One Shot. They have one for case lube and one for gun lube. In this thread are talking about the one on the left in the Red can. Not the one on the right in the Black can. And you have the One Shot sonic cleaner solution. https://www.hornady.com/reloading/case-care/sonic-cleaners-and-solutions/lock-n-load-sonic-cleaner And note that, like their presses, the sonic cleaners are "Lock-N-Load". Quite the marketing think-tank. ETA: When I started reloading in the late 80's I used a lube pad two or three times and tossed that greasy mess. Been using One Shot case lube since then on every thing from .38 S&W to .300 Win. Mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 3 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: Sort of the point of a spray on lube. Ease of use. Plus a little lube in the case neck makes cycling the press easier. Finger lubing cases and the old lube pads went out with 45 RPM records. (I still have hundreds of old 45s. I have been trying to convert them to digital to make listening to them easier.) Keep in mind we are talking about @Abilene, SASS # 27489, he is older than dirt and still does things the same from the dark ages. LOL TM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kajun Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 2 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: What's this Evil Bob's choice you are referring to??? Evil Bob is Badlands Bob's alias. Kajun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 13 hours ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said: Same here good - im not alone , thanks for hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 13 hours ago, Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 said: I prefer a non-oily case lube. Ballistol is at least 60% white mineral oil. (See https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0723/3621/2253/files/SDS-WTC-Ballistol-Multi-Purpose-Liquid-Revision-4.pdf?v=1694022408.) Powder contaminated with oil burns poorly. Oil can contaminate primers so they will not ignite. I've helped clear two squibs this year already. One at EOT and another at a local match this month. I keep oil away from powder and primers when reloading. that concerns me a little , i dont need those issues , ill clean them before i load them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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