Lawdog Dago Dom Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Buying out your neighbor's gun collection? A bill for banks to rat out customers. Incredible. https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/nssfgun-control-politicians-want-banks-to-snoop-on-gun-buyers/#more-200575 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 If they want to know what guns I have they can look at the forms I submitted. But that would be too easy, and besides, that’s not how commies take over. They get everyone to rat on one another. Gotta get that group-think going… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 A few months ago, the teller "casually" asked me what the cash withdrawal was for. I said "Western Art". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdog Dago Dom Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 Should have said a Hunter Biden painting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Pete Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I'm at a loss (could be reading comprehension) after reading the article ... how ... the bank could tell it was a firearm or ammunition transaction. Usually ... I purchase these things via credit card ... AND ... the transaction simply shows money paid to a particular vendor. I have been purchasing 9mm ammo in bulk lately (1000 rounds / 20 boxes) and the credit card statement simply shows money paid to (as an example) Rodgers Sporting Goods. How would they know if I was purchasing bulk ammo or a case of duck decoys?? My most recent pistol purchase shows money paid to a Sporting Goods dealer ... and I paid the receiving FFL in cash. I am missing something somewhere ... perhaps they are going to make the vendors identify such purchases??!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassnetguy50 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 @Patagonia PeteCredit cards would be the easiest for them to track. They could integrate it into the MCC system so the store employee would be as oblivious as the customer. Walmart used ID scans to track every purchase of ammunition a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I haven’t had a Teller ask me what withdrawal money was for. My response probably wouldn’t be very nice and I think it would surprise me a bit. Now that I have thought about I believe I will say something like “What’s the money for? Why hookers and cocaine…what are you doing later?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I think they miss-spelled Sen. Malarky's Name ... He's full of it . Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I took out a pretty good chunk of cash recently. The teller actually asked me what it was for. I asked him if he really needed to question me. His response was that depending on what I needed it for I might be better off getting a cashiers check. I just took the cash. But I do realize that some older folks have been conned out of money through various scams and they could be concerned about something like that. Especially repeated withdrawals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Wot @sassnetguy50 sez. These codes have been around for a loooong time, presumably for such innocent reasons as tracking purchases for cardholder rewards. Codes could be easily added to the tables. Quote What are merchant category codes? Merchant category codes became a requirement for businesses in 2004, per the IRS, which created them. In short, they are: Four-digit numbers that classify a business by what it sells or the service it provides. If the merchant sells or provides more than one thing, its code is typically based on the item or service that makes up the majority of the business (see below for exceptions). Assigned to a business by the payment networks — Visa, Mastercard, American Express and Discover — when that business sets up a credit card payment system. Card-issuing banks have no control over how these codes are assigned and can't change them. Generally standardized. A business with a home furniture store MCC typically registers as a home furniture store whether you're using a Mastercard, Visa, American Express or Discover. How do MCCs work? Purchases are automatically categorized by the MCC of a store when they're reported to your credit card issuer, which uses these codes to determine whether you get additional rewards. Say you're shopping at a candy store, which according to the IRS list above would have an MCC of 5441, for "candy, nut and confectionery stores." If you buy something there with a card that offers bonus rewards in that category of spending, your card issuer will grant you those extra rewards based on that MCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 We have a small town bank. Everybody knows everybody. I’f I made a big withdrawal they’d probably assume it was for farm equipment. If I said it was for guns they’d probably say “Cool. Whatcha gettin? I just got a new Browning .358 for Elk season” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I have been getting cash and paying with cash for most gun purchases for a few years now I have never been questioned about what it was for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 This is no big deal to me. I've been hiding gun purchases from the wife for years. The federal government should be no challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L said: A few months ago, the teller "casually" asked me what the cash withdrawal was for. I said "Western Art". I would have casually said, "None of your business M'am!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Bob Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said: This is no big deal to me. I've been hiding gun purchases from the wife for years. The federal government should be no challenge. Sometimes it’s better to have to ask for forgiveness than permission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassnetguy50 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: I haven’t had a Teller ask me what withdrawal money was for. My response probably wouldn’t be very nice and I think it would surprise me a bit. Now that I have thought about I believe I will say something like “What’s the money for? Why hookers and cocaine…what are you doing later?” Please keep us updated on how the AHIDTA responds to that from the California immigrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdog Dago Dom Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: I haven’t had a Teller ask me what withdrawal money was for. My response probably wouldn’t be very nice and I think it would surprise me a bit. Now that I have thought about I believe I will say something like “What’s the money for? Why hookers and cocaine…what are you doing later?” You can get this for much less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 4 hours ago, sassnetguy50 said: Please keep us updated on how the AHIDTA responds to that from the California immigrant. I have no idea what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassnetguy50 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Appalachia High Intensity Drug Traffic Area. There are multiple HIDTA programs around the nation, federal program started in the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Y'all got guns , who would have thunk it CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Ron Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Howdy, Very simple is to have your response ready. Antiques is always the answer. Same as when I had the quiestest Camaro at the autocross.... Why wake a sleeping cop? Dont start nothin wont be nothin.... Best CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashknife Cowboy Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Gotta love cash..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Duncan Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/12/2021 at 10:09 PM, Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L said: A few months ago, the teller "casually" asked me what the cash withdrawal was for. I said "Western Art". I would have smiled back at the teller and ignore the question by not answering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxahachie Kid #17017 L Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 If asked that question, by my bank...I plan to say, "I am buying a nuclear weapon from Afghanistan, that traitor joe left behind, and it came over the border at Del Rio". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Why worry about banks when we all carry a tattletale in our pocket that tracks location and can listen to your conversations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassnetguy50 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Texas Joker said: Why worry about banks when we all carry a tattletale in our pocket that tracks location and can listen to your conversations? Tattletale is rarely in my pocket. Easy to leave in the cupholder and it sits on the counter a lot. Where as the autodeposited checks require use of the bank to withdraw cash. Hopefully this will be a booster for local shop sales where people can pay cash instead of internet stores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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