Roanoke Rifleman, SASS #30256 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 The powder I have Ben using for my 45 leave the brass real dirty. What is the best powder for not only function but easy cleaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bearded Wonder Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 American pioneer powder fffg or GOEX, just don't let the sun go down before cleaning. i dunk my brass in a mixture of vinegar and water then rinse and tumble when i get home. For smokeless i like Trail boss. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bearded Wonder Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 After tumbling my brass looks like this, with the trail boss I use 180gr hi-tech coated bullets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Stephen D Hill, SASS #56151 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 No matter what kind of powder you use (smokeless or black) you will get dirty brass. Part of what you expect when shooting 45lc. I personally use nothing but Titegroup with a good crimp. Just have to clean your brass very good. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Clark Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 700x works well with 180 grain bullets for smokeless, as does BlackMZ for FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Winchester WST is what I use, a little smoky on the case but cleans up very quickly in my tumbler. Cases don't HAVE to be jewelry. Just remove the grease and dirt. Anything more is (vanity ). I've found most of the double-base powders (that contain some nitroglycerin as well as the standard nitrocellulose) leave lots more soot and greasy residue on cases. That would include some of these common powders, even some recommended above: TiteGroup (very high NG content) Bullseye (high NG content) Unique 231 (and most other powders made by Alliant and Winchester) The exception to that seems to be a couple of double-based powders that run much cleaner - Clays and E3. If you are using conventional lubed bullets, much of the grime is coming from the lube. The poly coated bullets remove almost all of that. Bottom line - So, if you must have "as clean as possible" fired cases, I'd suggest Clays and a poly-coated 250 grain slug in .45 Colt. Good luck, GJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I use Clays. Reason is that Clays may be used for my 357, 45acp, 45 colt, and for 12ga. One powder fits all so one 8lb is all I need for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust'N Bottles Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I find Trail Boss to work well and and cleans up easy. Its very bulky so its easy to see while loading, but because its so bulky it's only available in 9oz cans or 5lb kegs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mink Shoals Bandit, #49388 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Titegroup or Clays is the cleanest I have found.. Trailboss is the dirtiest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, Mink Shoals Bandit, #49388 said: Titegroup or Clays is the cleanest I have found.. Trailboss is the dirtiest... +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftwood Johnson, SASS #38283 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Howdy Have I stated recently that dirty or stained brass shoots just as well as shiny clean brass? The only real disadvantage to dirty or stained brass is it is harder to find in the grass. As already stated, with the low pressure loads we usually shoot, not enough pressure is generated to fully expand the cases to seal the chamber, so blowby is common. It is not a big deal. A good tumble with a drop of polish added should get your cases as clean as they need be. For what it's worth, a little bit of powdery residue on the inside of the cases does not mean anything. It does not cause any problems, My go to Smokeless powder for all my revolver loads is Unique. Part of the reason I like Unique is it takes a reasonably large charge to do the same job as 2 grains of Whiz Bang. The more you fill up that cavernous 45 Colt case with powder, the more efficient the powder burn is. You want to see dirty brass sometime, try shooting Black Powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 http://reloadammo.com/45cload.htm A powder with a fast burn ratio, ie TiteGroup - 250gr bullet and a tight crimp with the Lee Factory Crimp Die FYI ... No straight case cartridges will eject from the chamber with no blowback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I would recommend Hodgdon's Universal. (They label it "Universal Clays", but DO NOT CONFUSE UNIVERSAL WITH PLAIN "CLAYS"!) Universal is similar in burning rate to Unique. Plain CLAYS is similar to Bullseye, i.e., faster-burning than Universal! That is NOT to say that you necessarily use the same charges for the Hodgdon powders as the Alliant powders. ALWAYS GO BY THE PUBLISHED MANUALS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Mongo, SASS #61450 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Another thing you might try is annealing your brass. There are several Youtube videos and websites that explain how to do it. Several local shooters who shoot .45 LC in their rifles have had much less blow back after doing this. All my larger caliber cowboy main match rifles are .44-40 just to avoid the blow back problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stump Water Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Red Dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Unique, WW231 & REAL BP. OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefro, SASS#69420 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, Stump Water said: Red Dot. Yep, I use Red Dot for all my smokeless stuff 45Colt, 45acp, c45sp, 44/40, 38sp, 12ga.............prefer 2f Schuetzen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Mink Shoals Bandit, #49388 said: Titegroup or Clays is the cleanest I have found.. Trailboss is the dirtiest... Depends on how you load them. I've found Trailboss very clean when not loaded at the bottom end of the range. When I shoot smokeless, it's my go-to powder for big cases which, are loaded at mid-range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawman Mays Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Driftwood Johnson, SASS #38283 said: My go to Smokeless powder for all my revolver loads is Unique. Mine too as well as for my Rifles in .44-40. I don't use it because it's clean or dirty, I just like the feel and sound of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Trailrider #896 said: I would recommend Hodgdon's Universal. (They label it "Universal Clays", but DO NOT CONFUSE UNIVERSAL WITH PLAIN "CLAYS"!) Universal is similar in burning rate to Unique. Plain CLAYS is similar to Bullseye, i.e., faster-burning than Universal! That is NOT to say that you necessarily use the same charges for the Hodgdon powders as the Alliant powders. ALWAYS GO BY THE PUBLISHED MANUALS! +1 The new labels just say "Universal". I like this powder better than Unique. It burns cleaner. BUT (there's always a 'but') In my Rossi 92 I get some blow back. if I load the rounds hot enough not to get blow back they are too hot for SASS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I, too, use Universal, but... Can we say .44-40, boys n girls! No blowback with that cartridge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 21 minutes ago, Trailrider #896 said: I, too, use Universal, but... Can we say .44-40, boys n girls! Clean, too. Probably not what the OP wants to hear.... but it's a great answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: BUT (there's always a 'but') In my Rossi 92 I get some blow back. if I load the rounds hot enough not to get blow back they are too hot for SASS. If you haven't already, try a heavier bullet. Solved the blowback problem when I had a Rossi '92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: +1 The new labels just say "Universal". I like this powder better than Unique. It burns cleaner. BUT (there's always a 'but') In my Rossi 92 I get some blow back. if I load the rounds hot enough not to get blow back they are too hot for SASS. BUTT-If you'd use Unique in the proper quantity, you'd have a more harmonious outcome....... OLG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOOTIN FOX Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Red Dot, Promol(cheaper Red Dot), 700X, Trailboss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostVaquero Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I like Trailboss. No way to double charge. Rotary tumble with SS pins a bit of polish and nice and shiny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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