Rye Miles #13621 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Yes I wear them all day and I also have ammo in my belt. Extra weight???? Gimme a break! What are we talking hear 10 lbs at the most??? Geeeeez…………………….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Most of the time they come off, less were a tear on my back and feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvil Al #59168 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I never saw John Wayne put his guns in his saddle bags and walk around with empty holsters!!!!!!!!! Pay me what he was getting paid for those. And I will wear them as long as he did. And like him. I would take them off. Run back to my nice comfy trailer on the stage lot. And wait for them to get ready to shoot the next scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Seriously? No....LT to ULT is the firing line. When you tip your cart back you sweep yourself and everyone walking behind you. What? That's not a sweep but someone else walking to the cart from the ULT is? Yes to muzzle awareness....NO...to paranoid "safety" Nazi's. Read the rulebook. Or watch everyone and anyone running around calling DQ'S. The rules allow you to sweep yourself with no penalty. The RO I handbook says you earned a SDQ for sweeping anyone with an unloaded gun. I see nothing that limits this to the firing line. The 170 rule for example is limited to the firing line per the RO I. I personally am not really concerned about an unloaded firearm in a gun cart but am a lot more nervous about a firearm/pistol being handled by a shooter that sweeps the posse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvil Al #59168 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Carts that lean back. Which many do. Sweep everyone that walks by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Irish Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 No, they pull my pants down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dollar Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 No, they pull my pants down Ouch... now I cant get the visual out of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The O'Meara Himself Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 If They'd fit in the truck seat I'd put 'em on before I left home and take 'em off when I got home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother King, SASS #69031 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 The rules allow you to sweep yourself with no penalty. The RO I handbook says you earned a SDQ for sweeping anyone with an unloaded gun. I see nothing that limits this to the firing line. The 170 rule for example is limited to the firing line per the RO I. I personally am not really concerned about an unloaded firearm in a gun cart but am a lot more nervous about a firearm/pistol being handled by a shooter that sweeps the posse. That's fine, GCK...now ... show me the rule that says ANYWHERE is a SDQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Hay Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I take off the SG belt and Holsters. Can't bend over with them on. Its easier to pick brass and set targets with them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Cannuck Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Mine go on when I load up atthe truck and they come off only for lunch or natures call. I actually love the feel on my hips. Frenchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I leave em on. I guess because I wore a gun, ammo, cuffs, pepper spray, baton, and radio all day fior 30 years, I got used to the weight. Hey maybe that's why my back hurts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 People keep mentioning lunch.........John Wayne didn't stop for no lunch!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waimea Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 That's fine, GCK...now ... show me the rule that says ANYWHERE is a SDQ. Brother King This is from the Shooter's Handbook page 22. The bolding and large lettering is mine. 2. Safe Gun handling is the shooter’s responsibility. The 170-degree safety rule is in effect. Muzzle direction is important between, before, during, and after shooting a stage. A muzzle must not be allowed to “sweep” the other participants at any time. Long guns shall have their actions open with chambers and magazines empty and muzzles pointed in a safe direction when transported at a match. A holstered revolver (loaded or empty) with the hammer fully down on an empty chamber or expended case is considered safe and may not be interpreted as sweeping another shooter while safely secured in the holster. Failure to manage safe muzzle direction is grounds for disqualification from the stage, and for repeated offenses, from the match. Waimea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother King, SASS #69031 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 So... I'm over by my gun cart taking my pistols out of my holsters to put them away and you go to the TO or PM and tell him that I swept you while you backed into my gun cart. You're saying that I would then get a SDQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pay Dirt Norvelle #90056 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Mine go on when I get to the range and go off after all the stages are done and it is time to eat. It is not that much weight and I have had back surgery and have an artificial leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waimea Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 So... I'm over by my gun cart taking my pistols out of my holsters to put them away and you go to the TO or PM and tell him that I swept you while you backed into my gun cart. You're saying that I would then get a SDQ? Sent ya a PM. But to answer your question, no. You'd get an apology for me backing into your cart. Waimea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 So... I'm over by my gun cart taking my pistols out of my holsters to put them away and you go to the TO or PM and tell him that I swept you while you backed into my gun cart. You're saying that I would then get a SDQ? Yes, unfortunately I have seen it happen a couple of times (but not the backing into cart part), both were new shooters and they learned a valuable lesson. If you sweep someone handling guns you can be reported for unsafe gun handling. Remember everyone is a safety officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother King, SASS #69031 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 You may have seen a unicorn, too. However, the rule as written applies from the LT to the ULT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bill Mathewson, 37826 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Yes, Yes, No, No then Yes, Yes, No. 1st and 2nd stage yes. Take off after shooting 3rd stage to take a pee break. Pick up brass on last part of third and fist part of 4th stage re-holster to shoot and end of the 4th stage. 5th stage yes, 6th stages no. now don't you wish you didn't ask. BBM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuteTheMall Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I never saw John Wayne put his guns in his saddle bags and walk around with empty holsters!!!!!!!!! He typically wore only one holster anyway, and he NEVER picked up any brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 You may have seen a unicorn, too. However, the rule as written applies from the LT to the ULT. What is it you do not understand about "A muzzle must not be allowed to “sweep” the other participants at any time. " At any time, means at any time. At any time would not seem to mean between LT and ULT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet Jones 99980 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I don't take em off till the last stage is shot. I just like the weight and feel of my sweeties. I like to caress the rosewood in between stages. I like the creak of the leather with guns in em. It puts me in the 1800s mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourmash Bill Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Nope, back in the day I was an avid weight lifter and I still lift weights regularly. I start out by curling 12 ounce weights in my right hand and when it gets tired I switch to my left. If I'm having a great part.. session I sometimes lift weights with both hands at once, though my wife frowns on that. I hear ya pard! only my weights are only 2 ounces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elk Creek LeMieux Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I'm still new so my opinion don't count... But I like wearing the pistols. I will say though, that in the colonial stuff I do with my father in law, I don't keep a tomahawk and possibles on my person all weekend. So I might not wear pistols the entire time during a big match. The novelty wears off after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Tex Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I think I saw another post or two maybe about where else can you walk around all day with two sixguns hooked to ya. I have to second that sentiment. When I am at the range getting ready for a cowboy shoot I get my chops busted by my buddies who don't shoot it when I take the rig out and strap up the hardware. But it does feel cool, and soon, I will be posting my profile picture that I honestly think looks pretty bada$$. I know thats conceited, but I just love running around with that rig and the guns on. So I only actually take it off for lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Dan O'Shootem SASS # 61974 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Skinner Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 You may have seen a unicorn, too. However, the rule as written applies from the LT to the ULT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 That's fine, GCK...now ... show me the rule that says ANYWHERE is a SDQ. You may have seen a unicorn, too. However, the rule as written applies from the LT to the ULT. I don't see "...from the LT to the ULT" mentioned anywhere in any of the "sweep" references: Appendix A – Range Safety Rules #2 RO1 p.14 Safety Practices SHB p.22 SDQ's (Penalty Overview) RO1 p.25 Pocket RO Card RO1 p.28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I take mine off when I visit that little house out back and sometimes for lunch break... Jabez Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 It would appear that we have another shooter (BK) that could use an RO refresher course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Diamond Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I take them off after I shoot the 6th stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Three pages and I keep wondering, why would anyone care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Duncan Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Three pages and I keep wondering, why would anyone care? Cars about what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvil Al #59168 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Three pages and I keep wondering, why would anyone care? +1 Some are acting like they are better than others just because they leave there guns on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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