Ace_of_Hearts Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) I have been noticed to get a new drivers license..... In the notice is another notice that my drivers license is no longer a REAL ID. A Real ID must be used to board an airplane or enter a Federal Building where ID is required after October 2020. I must present 1 - Proof of identity 2 - Proof of a Social Security Number 3 - 2 proofs of residential address I think I'll just use my passport. (which I guess is a "Real ID" that I got without all the above requirements) Edited December 9, 2016 by Ace_of_Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Yeah... ain't that sumpin'. A state-issued driver's license is not sufficient ID to buy a firearm in our state... ya gotta have a garbage bill or some such to supplement it. Sheesh. I wonder if anyone's ever done a study to determine how much this stuff has reduced crime... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) I have read about situations where a state-issued concealed carry ID is not considered a valid form of state ID. At first I wondered how this could be and then I quickly ascertained the requiring party just simply the anti-gun in nature. TSA being one of the entities that will not accept it as ID. But not being able to use your driver's license at the driver's license office showing it to the same office that issued you your driver's license to get another driver's license makes no sense to me. Edited December 8, 2016 by Dantankerous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Ah yes, the slippery slope rears it's ugly head once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 My state-issued concealed pistol license has no photograph and I never would have considered it ID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Yet some places allow voting without an Id? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Brules Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Still, no "Voter ID" is required to ensure the basic premise and principles for fair and genuinely untainted elections; the cornerstone of our continued existence as a free nation with a strong Constitution. Edited December 8, 2016 by Cat Brules, SASS #14086 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) My state-issued concealed pistol license has no photograph and I never would have considered it ID. Some states have a CCH license that is identical to a DL except at the top says concealed carry license, not drivers license. My state's DL and CCH are identical but for that wording at the top. I can see why a non picture carry permit would not work for valid ID. I did not imagine a state would issue a carry permit without the holder's picture on it. Edited December 8, 2016 by Dantankerous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Bob #35998 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I have read about situations where a state-issued concealed carry ID is not considered a valid form of state ID. At first I wondered how this could be and then I quickly ascertained the requiring party just simply the anti-gun in nature. TSA being one of the entities that will not accept it as ID. But not being able to use your driver's license at the driver's license office showing it to the same office that issued you your driver's license to get another driver's license makes no sense to me. Exactly. You have to be printed and pass a background to get a ccw license. Idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muleshoe Bill SASS #67022 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Ain't it a screwed up country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I can see why a non picture carry permit would not work for valid ID. I did not imagine a state would issue a carry permit without the holder's picture on it. I don't have a photo on my license to practice law, either. Or some other licenses I have held. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Sin Nombre Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I have read about situations where a state-issued concealed carry ID is not considered a valid form of state ID. At first I wondered how this could be and then I quickly ascertained the requiring party just simply the anti-gun in nature. TSA being one of the entities that will not accept it as ID. But not being able to use your driver's license at the driver's license office showing it to the same office that issued you your driver's license to get another driver's license makes no sense to me. This cracks me up. In order to get a driver's license, you need to go through a bunch of extraneous hoops, and yet that same driver's license can't be used to renew the driver's license. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) But if I just say "hey mon, I don't have that s**t, I am here illegally". I can gat a DL??? Edited December 8, 2016 by Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee Stud Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Yeah... ain't that sumpin'. A state-issued driver's license is not sufficient ID to buy a firearm in our state... ya gotta have a garbage bill or some such to supplement it. Sheesh. I wonder if anyone's ever done a study to determine how much this stuff has reduced crime... Hardhand Smidgeon... you got to be kiddin'? What the hell is a "garbage bill"? Where do ya get 'em? Dam. ts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twelve mile REB Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 My DL has a picture My CC has a picture My Veterans has a picture You mean I have to get 666 tattooed on my forehead to know who I am? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Hardhand Smidgeon... you got to be kiddin'? What the hell is a "garbage bill"? Where do ya get 'em? Dam. ts Well TS, it's like this... 'Bout oncet a week or so, the Garbage Fairy comes along and takes stuff from yer garbage cans - kinda like a honeybee in the springtime. But they sends ya a bill; they expects ya to send 'em money. Greedy ba$tards! They already get all that free garbage and they ain't satisfied. And if ya forgets to take your garbage cans out for 'em the night before, the garbage pig will fill yer shoes with mush. [According to Mike Cleary, the former morning personality on KNBR radio station.] :-) But seriously... to buy a firearm, you need an automobile registration, electric or water bill, garbage bill, or some such with your name and address on it. Can't be trustin' their own issued ID's, don'tcha know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badlands Bob #61228 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 We went through the same mess in Georgia. Georgia has always required a birth certificate and other records to get your first driver's license. After that, the driver's license was all you needed. THEN, North Carolina decided to give driver's licenses to illegal aliens. The illegals would come to Georgia and trade in the North Carolina license for a Georgia license. The only way to fix this was to require everyone in Georgia to validate legal residency when their license came up for renewal. Then you got a gold star on your license which mean you don't have to bring all the extra I.D. next time. North Carolina was not the only state passing out driver's licenses to illegals but they were the one we saw the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 So a few years ago there was discussion about having some sort of national ID card... and there arose a hue and outcry about government control: "Show me your papers!" Look where that mindset is leading us. But... is sure seems to work for Mexico! Mexico's National Voter ID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I remember discussing a similar matter with a pleasant old man, one afternoon in an ambulance. We were taking him home to die. He and his wife were one of the last couples to run the gauntlet across the East German frontier, his suitcase and overcoat inherited a few bullet holes from the trip. He said (among other things) that to cross an internal border in the Soviet Union, one had to show a passport. Not just an ID, but an actual passport. He said he came to the US to escape that one phrase he most detested: "Yo' papiss plizz." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 My state-issued concealed pistol license has no photograph and I never would have considered it ID. Same here in Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Ron Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Howdy, I yam who I yam. Best CR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Bear, SASS #26793L Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 There are a few states, like here in PA, where the state issued drivers license does not meet the federal guidelines for an acceptable ID. As I understand it, PA still has a year or so to comply and I was told that they have no intention of doing so. So yes we will need another for of ID. A passport will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yul Lose Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Hardhand Smidgeon... you got to be kiddin'? What the hell is a "garbage bill"? Where do ya get 'em? Dam. ts Ya get billed by the trash companies that come by once a week to collect yer garbage. The Gray can is for trash, the blue can is for recyclables, the green cans are for green recyclables like leaves and grass clippings. Don't mix the three up because then you'll get in trouble from the garbage collector. Seems I threw some empty spray paint cans in the trash and they were supposed to go in the recycle can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace_of_Hearts Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 WELL! I got my REAL ID drivers license. I had to show my 1 - Passport 2 - Social Security Card 3 - Bill from the County Assessors office and bill from State tax office. Now I guess I can get onto airplane in 2020. Typical of the Government...... The regular driver licence has printed on it.... Not good for Federal identification. The real ID driver licence has nothing printed on it...... Seems a bit backwards to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Adams 3674 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I believe the purpose of this is to provide an ID (REAL) that proves you are in fact a citizen of the US. A driver's license, in many places in the country, could easily be obtained by folks who are not citizens of the US - NM as a case in point!. Without a Real ID, you would/will need a passport to board a plane or enter a government building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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