Diamond Curly SASS#57086 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I have never used an over shot card for loading blackpowder shot shells but have some left from my muzzleloader I sold and was wondering if it is worth using them up on my shotshells or not. And advantage or disadvantage to using a shot card. Thanks, DC Not using brass shells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Hey DC: I use them in mine. That way if the crimp comes open or something else happens, they work just fine. I use 14 gauge overshot cards in my 12 gauge loads -- easier to put them in. --Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shoer 27979 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I do only because somebody gave me something like 6000, 20 gauge overshot cards so I am doing it to use them up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafe Conager SASS #56958 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Don't use myself! just one more step and expense. I do know people who use them. Rafe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot Dobbs Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Hey DC: I use them in mine. That way if the crimp comes open or something else happens, they work just fine. I use 14 gauge overshot cards in my 12 gauge loads -- easier to put them in. --Dawg +1 I use them for the exact same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Nope never have used them. Ike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky R. K. Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 If you are getting a good tight crimp you do not need the wad. Lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 When I was loading with a fiber wad column, I was. But now that I am loading with a plastic wad and a good crimp, I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Gotta have'em, IF your load'n all brass shells. LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftwood Johnson, SASS #38283 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Yes, I use them. Because my standard load does not quite fill up the hull, and my crimp would be a bit concave with a hole in the middle without them. With the card the crimp is level and no shot can escape out of the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefro, SASS#69420 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Nope, never have. Just use plastic wads . Good Luck Jefro Relax-Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Curly SASS#57086 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Thank everyone for the information. I will try the cards and see how the crimp looks. Appriciate all of your imput. DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriscoCounty Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Think Roll crimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mud Marine,SASS#54686 Life Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I use brass 10 gauge shells. I use overshot wads because I do not want to shorten their life by crimping them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Curly SASS#57086 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 I use brass 10 gauge shells. I use overshot wads because I do not want to shorten their life by crimping them. I really like the brass shells but they do not seem to work out with my 87 but work great in any of my SXS hammered shotguns. Look good and are great fun to shoot with. DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I. M. Crossdraw, SASS# 8321 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I use on mine. Just in case the crimp might open up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I use over shot cards for the same reason DJ stated. However, I use 1/2 inch square cards I make instead of purchasing round cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Diamond Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I use two. One over the powder so it does not burn up the fiber wads and one over the shot so the hull closes tightly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monco Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Think Roll crimp +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noz Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I do for the same reasons Driftwood and Mr. Canby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Slim SASS #24733 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 They can be handy if your shot column is a bit short and you need some filler. If everything is exactly right then they aren't necessary. Never personally had a plastic shell open up on me, but them I only use my BP shells once, then toss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Curly SASS#57086 Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 Thanks again for the imput. Once I find where I filed the over shot cards I may just have to try it and see what works. Ofcourse that could take awhile. Great filing system, sometimes. DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordyce Beals Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yes, I use them. Because my standard load does not quite fill up the hull, and my crimp would be a bit concave with a hole in the middle without them. This is the way I load black powder and substitute shotgun shells: When the shot, wad(s), and powder fill the hull so that the crimp is just slightly concave the crimp can not relax and open up and is providing the needed resistance to get the powder burning correctly. The crimp does more then just hold the shot from spilling out. This is the way factory shell crimps look. ( They are not level from my perception. ) , but them I only use my BP shells once, then toss I load the STS hulls 6 to 8 times with 777 FFG. Fordyce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concho Billy Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Hey DC: I use them in mine. That way if the crimp comes open or something else happens, they work just fine. I use 14 gauge overshot cards in my 12 gauge loads -- easier to put them in. --Dawg Me too and for the same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 No, if I am using plastic wads and 1 ounce of shot. Yes, if I am using felt wads, 7/8 ounce of shot and want to maintain a tight shot column. Yes, if I am loading for my original Remington 1878 Lifter SxS: Remington STS cut back 3/8", felt wad, overpowder wad, over-shot wad held in place with hot glue. I do not like cleaning full-brass shells. I surrender my STS hulls to this cut load when they start getting small cracks around the crimp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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