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Branchwater Jack SASS #88854

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  1. Rolan, Know that Belle and I are thinking of you and your family. Just the other day we were talking about all of us cutting up in the back corner of the dinner at Wartrace a couple of years ago and how much fun that was. She will be missed.
  2. Judge was one of the people to encourage me to switch categories and start shooting FCGF. I guess I made the switch just when his health started to fail him. He would continue to encourage me, but all along the way remind me that he was going to put a whoopin' on me once he got better. I tried to poke at him and encourage him back by telling him that I wished he would get well soon because I was ready to give him a go. Truthfully, I would love nothing more than to be whooped by one of the best just one more time. Just rest assured that today there is one more angel in heaven. We'll miss you, cowboy.
  3. I have also seen folks use it in order to get you from point A to Point B. For instance, you shoot a shotgun at Point A, but the stage writer wants you to shoot pistols from Point B. So, instead of having 20 minutes of arguing on how close you have to be to point B to shoot the pistols, they put a table at Point B and tell you to put the shotgun on that table.
  4. Isn't that a kale slaw that you put on a veggie hot dog? It is a cousin to sauerkraut, but that is usually reserved for bratwurst, I think...
  5. You think you've got problems? What are you supposed to do if you are a manically depressed robot? No, don't try to answer that. I'm fifty thousand times more intelligent than you and even I don't know the answer. It gives me a headache just trying to think down to your level.
  6. There is also a microtel in Shelbyville. It was close to booked up last I looked.
  7. Camping info http://wartraceregulators.com/StateMatch.aspx We were able to get a room in Shelbyville. Might be an option for others.
  8. IfJust to drive this point home: SHB pg 16 Was the rifle in either of these conditions when the rifle left the shooter's hand? According to the OP, no as "the TO notices that there is a live round in the chamber". OK, then is there a penalty for this? Take a look at the poket RO Card and see...
  9. The rule is looking for a live round in the chamber - not whether the action is open or closed. It is not looking to see whether or not the action is closed. It does not even specify that the round has to be fully seated in the chamber, just that the round is in the chamber. It could be that it is part way in the chamber. Doesn't matter as it is in the chamber. That being said.... The OP does not say, but if the round was in the chamber but the action still open, the shooter could simply close the action and fire off the round. The round would not have been ejected as they had not cycled the action yet. I've seen too many rounds go off with the rifle not in battery and bullets not fully seated in the chamber to say whether or not a particular rifle will fire if you dropped it or pulled the trigger in an unknown condition. SHB Pg 42 the items listed in SHB Pg 17-18 on how to deal with a long gun whose action is closed when discarded is an entirely different issue. This big paragraph came into being a couple years ago when the MSV for a discarded long gun with the action closed was removed from the rule book. SHB Pg 17-18
  10. The Minor Safety for a round on the carrier is correctable before the next gun is fired. The SDQ for a live round in the chamber when discarded is not correctable. SHB Pg 42 Keep reading...If the live round was in the chamber as indicated inthe OP, this is not correctable. SHB Pg 17-18
  11. May I just also add that this exact WTC just might show up as a test question if anyone just happens to wonder when they take their next ROI class or a refresher...That is what the little star on the view graph on page 48 reminds us, anyway.
  12. Negative, ghostrider. The TO is the ultimate authority on Ps. Not Misses. SHB PG 23 SHB Pg 20 ROI Pg 48 (emphasis added)
  13. I agree with Ike on this. I recall a stage where you carried a long gun across the bay to make safe at the pistol location. I had my first pistol pulled on the way over and had two shots off by the time I had the rifle laid down and the second pistol pulled. I then alternates for the next six rounds and ended by double tapping with the second pistol. TO called a P for not alternating my pistols because gunfighters have to do that. I protested the call, following the process outlined in the SHB, and the call was overturned. Or you can ask my wife who was told that she earned a P at the Alabama State last year. She was adamant that she did not earn a P. She argued the point with the TO for several minutes until the posse marshal was called over. He agreed with my wife that the correct call for shooting the rifle targets with her pistols was in fact not a P, but rather 10 misses. She got that call corrected too. TOs can be wrong and that is why we have an appeals process. But that is also why TOs are instructed to always refer to the SASS Shooters Handbook when stating the rules or referencing what the shooter did wrong. That's why we should always have a copy of it on hand. Don't quote or say something from memory. By directly referencing the SHB, you take away the issue of what the rule says, and now we can just argue about interpretation...
  14. Agreed. The TO must announce the time and any misses/penalties to the shooter. And the shooter has every right to ask why. REF ROI, bullet 11 Also See SHB pg 23 (emphasis added)
  15. you're not missing anything... SHB pg 13-14
  16. Something just like this just happened the other day, where the shooter took liberty with the target order when shooting the stage. Upon completion of the stage, the TO looked about as spotters all shook their fists in the air and declared the shooter clean and commented to eachother on how masterfully the stage was shot. TO looked at the shooter and said, "You know what you did?" Shooter said, "Yup." TO Called out the time, no misses, and a P all to be recorded. Spotters were scratching their heads a bit, but the TO then went and told the spotters what the shooter did wrong in hopes that the spotters would catch it next time. In this case, if the TO did not call the procedural penalty that the shooter earned, they would have penalized each and every shooter at that match 10 seconds. And, you're right in that not calling that 10 second penalty could determine a lot of outcomes during the match as well.
  17. Assuming you have connectivity at the range... Doing it the other way, you know you'll always have a saved copy on the phone that you can access.
  18. Not really a SASS rules app. This is what you want to do... Download Adobe Acrobat app. Then download the rulebook off the SASS website. Open rulebook in Acrobat.
  19. Two spotters agree on 2 misses... SHB pg 20 SHB pg 23 I've shot in plenty of prop buildings where we only have room for the shooter and the TO in them. The spotters won't fit in the building so the spotters stand to the side. Many of these buildings are being replaced over time, but it is what it is...Just have to make due. Wartrace just tore down their line shack last year. It was one of those where you might could fit a TO, shooter, and 1 spotter in there if it was stand and deliver. When we were moving from one side tray in the shack to the other, there was just room for the TO and Shooter.
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