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Branchwater Jack SASS #88854

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  1. https://www.sassnet.com/EoT/results.php
  2. https://seniorgames.net/news/games-to-forgo-the-2020-season There was a typo in the OPs link...or they changed it...or something...
  3. My personal default is "Shoot low boys. They're riding Shetland ponies"
  4. I have also started posting the starting position on a card at the starting position. I came to this conclusion after constantly hearing shooters stage their guns and ask: "what's my line?" "where are my hands?" "What's the starting position?"
  5. There may also be issues with the timer picking up rifle shots with a buckaroo/buckarette shooting 22s. see also: https://www.sassnet.com/Downloads/Match Dir Guide 103018.pdf
  6. I try to write as many stages as I can with 'shooter's choice, rifle not last' and give folks the option on gun order, traveling direction, etc. That way, they can play to their strengths in transitions and movement. Doesn't always work out that way, but I do try. There are a few stages that, depending on downrange movement, positioning, etc, will require a set gun order. I just checked the SE regional last year: 6 stages were shooter's choice, Rifle not Last 2 were defined Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun 1 defined Rifle, Shotgun, Pistol 1 was Rifle first, shotgun pistol shooter's choice I know that there are some folks who prefer to always end on the shotgun. Their rational is that, if their last shotgun hulls stick in the chamber, they can clear them off the clock. However, forcing the ending every stage with the shotgun would get a little dull.
  7. Ranges that have a common firing line may find re-painting between shooters impractical. Went to a regional with a common firing line last year that painted before the start of each flight. I have been to some 'major' matches that paint between each posse. Those had had individual berms for each stage. IMO, at a minimum, they should be painted at least at the beginning of the day, no matter if it is a monthly or what.
  8. as long as the rifle is empty, and the barrel pointed in a safe direction, and the shooter didn't change positions with a closed, cocked rifle (even if it's empty), it's a no-call.
  9. A rifle must only "be emptied and discarded with their barrels pointed safely downrange." MSV if they played it down without ejecting the last round. SHB pg 17-18 SDQ if they ejected the last round, closed the rifle, and changed positions in order to set the rifle down with the Hammer back on the rifle. SHB pg 23 If they shoot all 10, eject the last one, close the rifle, and set it down immediately, no call. If they shoot 10, eject the last one, close the rifle, put the hammer down on an empty chamber, and then run across the bay and throw the rifle down on the table, no call.
  10. Of course, no matter what else happens, we have to be sure that we don't start eating our own young as we go through this process. We can't afford to lose too many more people that are already shooting
  11. So let me get this straight. You can't compare yourself against other people without an 'overall'? And, just for the record, SASS has, at different times, done away with the overall in multiple championship levels in multiple disciplines. And, I'm not necessarily suggesting we do so here. However, if the barrier to opening up things that may be beneficial to the continued well being of this sport is the 'overall', why wouldn't we consider dropping it? @Creeker, SASS #43022 Has a great point with this thread. if we are to examine this sport and look at things to help it continue to survive the next 40 years, we may need to let go of some of the perceptions of things that we think add value while finding and still holding on to those things that actually provide value and identity.
  12. Can they still get what matters to them some other way without having an 'overall'?
  13. That was more than a decade ago. or become vocal when their feelings get hurt because something wasn't implemented the way they thought it should. @Creeker, SASS #43022 Two things that I also wonder about... Do we need to begin looking at ways to compete in our game in an environment where we may be restricted on the use of lead ammunition? Do we need to rethink how we categorize competitors?
  14. The current rule book has been around for a long time. How many safety issues are there in there now, and why have we not changed them yet? How many of the rule changes that we have made in the past 10 years are to correct safety issues? Please also read the following from @Blackjack Zak : specifically:
  15. Somebody sent me a p.m. saying my timing for a rule change committee process was off, and they very well could be right. I was just spitballing on the screen. Their suggestion was that, if forming a rules committee the way I outlined it to look at the changes the rules, it would be good for the committee to have, at EOT, a forum, where people could discuss with the rules committee any of the proposed rule changes. Sounded like a good idea to me. And, they are right, the rules change committee doesn't work in a vacuum. They will also work with the ROC to ensure that any changes jive with everything else, and are well-defined, without the need for clarification. And, if clarification is needed, they can be included in the rule to begin with. finally, it would be up to the board of directors to accept the recommendations of the rules committee prior to the new rule book being published
  16. The rule was not rescinded because it was a bad rule. It was rescinded because a member of the BOD took issue with how the rule was implemented. Having a process like that helps ensure that they make good rules to begin with that don't need revisions and clarifications ad nauseam later. It helps to have everyone on board with the process, the change, and the effects of that change before it is implemented. honestly, the process that I described isn't something that I came up with, but is used by several other national organizations to great success. Let me ask you, when was the last time they changed the rules of the baseball mid-season? To @Tennessee williams Point Absolutely.. there are many ways that we can reformat the rulebook to ensure that were collecting the rule and the clarifications are better put out all in one spot.
  17. I respectfully disagree with you there, Widder. Part of the problem we have had over the last decade or so are folks not being able to keep up with rule changes and clarifications changing rules on an irregular basis. then, it becomes a luck of the draw and what TO you get before you figure out what rules and clarifications you are going to play by. In order for a rule to become effective, you must give it time to become part of the culture. You must give it time to be implemented around the world, studied, and see it is having the desired effect before it's revisited again. Take for example the fiasco of the lever rule from a couple years ago. They implemented a rule change, a short time later it was rescinded, then it was revisited, then implemented something again. And, just because we didn't learn from that fiasco, we had to do it all over again. Look at the mess that we got with moving with a cocked rifle from the loading table. Rule was voted on by a committee and came out, everybody had it figured out. People started running the matches with what they thought the rule to be. Well, they thought they had it figured out. Come to find out they didn't. A couple months later oh, a rule change comes out. Or rather the clarification on the rule change. And we still have people who don't understand the nuances of this rule. And, depending on what range you go to, will tell you what the rules going to be. Just that whole process created a lot of hurt feelings, and even just distrust of the process. It's something that can easily be avoided.
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