Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Krazy Kajun, I know you will understand. People harass me for calling an engine an engine and motor a motor. Us skilled trades folk in the electrical industry are just that way. So here goes: A motor converts electricity or other forms of kinetic energy into a mechanical motion. An engine is a mechanical device that uses a fuel source to create an output. There. I'm done explaining this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Slim SASS #24733 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 So why do they call them motorcars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 So....a motor is a type of engine (fuel = electricity, output = mechanical motion), but an engine is not a motor? My poor old brain can't remember much from guided missile school other than if you screw up the missile you're likely to get a 230 grain (before they switched to that 9mm crap) lead injection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Krazy Kajun, I know you will understand. People harass me for calling an engine an engine and motor a motor. Us skilled trades folk in the electrical industry are just that way. So here goes: A motor converts electricity or other forms of kinetic energy into a mechanical motion. An engine is a mechanical device that uses a fuel source to create an output. There. I'm done explaining this. That's how I have always understood it too In the machine tool industry all prints that I have seen always refered to 'engine' components when dealing with automotive. The only exception is Tesla Motors - which on their prints refer to 'Motor' components. makes sense I guess seein' that it is an electrical motor ...but I do like 'Born to be Wild'....you know, 'Get your motor running...move on down the highway' GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 So why do they call them motorcars? Cuz they're English! JHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Krazy Kajun, I know you will understand. People harass me for calling an engine an engine and motor a motor. Us skilled trades folk in the electrical industry are just that way. So here goes: A motor converts electricity or other forms of kinetic energy into a mechanical motion. An engine is a mechanical device that uses a fuel source to create an output. There. I'm done explaining this. Then why is Detroit called "The Motor City"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Gatlin, SASS 10274L Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Then why is Detroit called "The Motor City"? I wouldn't call Detroit much of anything these days... From Merriam-Webster online dictionary Engine : a machine for converting any of various forms of energy into mechanical force and motion; also : a mechanism or object that serves as an energy source <black holes may be the engines for quasars Motor: 1: one that imparts motion; specifically : prime mover 2: any of various power units that develop energy or impart motion: as a: a small compact engine b: internal combustion engine; especially : a gasoline engine c: a rotating machine that transforms electrical energy into mechanical energy But Tesla does not refer to its electrical motor as an engine... It is what it is I reckon GG ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Look at it this way: What we call "pistols" in Cowboy are, in modern terminoligy, revolvers. By modern definition, a pistol is a handgun with one firing chamber. A revolver has multiple chambers. BUT, by an older definition, they are all "pistols". Even though by today's definitions, there is a difference, using the older definition, they are all "motors". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Branch Louie Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 So years ago ESSO should have been saying "Happy Engineing"? I don't see the difference myself. Always seemed to me as long as I understand what somebody's saying, the words were OK.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clueless Bob Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I may be wrong(according to my wife, I am a lot), but as long as you understand what is being said, what's the big deal. Life's too short to get up tight over stuff like that. Almost like Ruger's OMV and NMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Most of us ignorant "hillbillies" are well aware of the fact that in "modern" terminology you are correct. We are also aware that the thing used to power the thing that drills a hole is a drill motor and the thing that actually makes the hole is a drill. We also know that "drill bits" are used in making holes in wood and historically they were used in a tool called a brace. But we also understand what you're talking about regardless of the terminology and have enough respect to not belittle someone elses ways. I know bunchES of "hillbillies" that can get more out of an "internal combustion engine" than most of the over educated engineer types can dream of. As Big Jake is known to say, "Just sayin'!" Almost there.... MERRY CHRISTMAS, Y'ALL!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Phil Peeno #50923 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 What about Hybrid electric/gas vehicles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Why do trains these days have diesel engines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother King, SASS #69031 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Las Vegas MOTOR SPEEDWAY; Indianapolis MOTOR SPEEDWAY; Nashville MOTOR SPEEDWAY; Atlanta MOTOR SPEEDWAY; New Hampshire MOTOR SPEEDWAY; Virginia MOTOR SPEEDWAY; Charlotte MOTOR SPEEDWAY; Texas MOTOR SPEEDWAY.... and that's just the Google short list, but I'm starting to see an ignorant hillbilly sort of a trend here because I had no ideer they had cords long enough to keep those MOTORS runnin'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 LOL, interesting what pushes some people buttons. Friend of mine is an electrician, he told me just the other day how bulbs are what you plant in the ground, lamps are what you screw into the light socket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Cuz they're English! JHC Motor boats ain't English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Explain The Department of Motor Vehicles. The government of the State of California can't possibly be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 And what's up with Motorcycles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Mountain Charlie SASS #43172 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 What about Hybrid electric/gas vehicles? Thems crossover motor/engines. Why do trains these days have diesel engines? Good point, should be a crossover engine/motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracos Kid Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 And what's up with MOTORMOUTHS ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Why do trains these days have diesel engines? Diesel engines drive generators which drive motors which drive the wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Scatterbrain Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 Merry Christmas everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 So....a motor is a type of engine (fuel = electricity, output = mechanical motion), but an engine is not a motor? My poor old brain can't remember much from guided missile school other than if you screw up the missile you're likely to get a 230 grain (before they switched to that 9mm crap) lead injection. Electricity is not fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 Why do trains these days have diesel engines? To power a generator to supply an electric motor. Having worked with a fella that worked for the railroads train maintenance shop and from what I learned working at Siemans plant that was in the process of installing inverters for old diesel powered trains. Typically they were built like this: Diesel engine drives a gen set to supply very large DC motors. The older trains, Siemans was building and installing DC to AC inverters (for between the gen set and the motor)and swapped the motors out for AC. Don't ask me why. I didn't work there but a couple weeks on an equipment install. Didn't get any time with an engineer, just the guys on the floor putting it together. I can only assume new trains are built strictly AC gen set and AC motor. Chime in if I'm wrong. I only know what I was told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted December 24, 2011 Author Share Posted December 24, 2011 LOL, interesting what pushes some people buttons. Friend of mine is an electrician, he told me just the other day how bulbs are what you plant in the ground, lamps are what you screw into the light socket. It's all in good fun. I like messing with truck drivers and law men myself. He was right about lamps and bulbs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Mushman Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Then there's "The Motor Company". Surprised the HD or Ford folks haven't chimed in here! Merry Christmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacknife Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 In the first place, us hillbillys ain't ignernt. Its jis yall unedukated Yankee folks make us look that way. Got it???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken D Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 ENGINEHEAD? ENGINEMOUTH? :wacko: :wacko: I'M CORNFUSED OR IS THAT FUSSIONHEAD FUSSIONMOUTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-BAR #18287 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Muscle cells convert fats, carbohydrates, and proteins into adenosine triphosphate for use as fuel to make the muscle contract. So muscles are engines...cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kajun Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Krazy Kajun, I know you will understand. People harass me for calling an engine an engine and motor a motor. Us skilled trades folk in the electrical industry are just that way. So here goes: A motor converts electricity or other forms of kinetic energy into a mechanical motion. An engine is a mechanical device that uses a fuel source to create an output. There. I'm done explaining this. Oh Dirty Dan, I undersplick wat yer a sayin' but I ain't gonna stand next to ya when you start talking about ignernt hillbillies...you're on your own there buddy!! Dadgum Tuco Forsyth is gonna start feudin' with ya. Of course neither one of ya can hit the broad side of a green barn but one of ya'll might get lucky and nick me...it's Christmas and I need's ta be home! Merry Christmas to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Oh Dirty Dan, I undersplick wat yer a sayin' but I ain't gonna stand next to ya when you start talking about ignernt hillbillies...you're on your own there buddy!! Dadgum Tuco Forsyth is gonna start feudin' with ya. Of course neither one of ya can hit the broad side of a green barn but one of ya'll might get lucky and nick me...it's Christmas and I need's ta be home! Merry Christmas to everyone. ....... gotta be one of tha bestest comebacks this year .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckhorn Woodie Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Krazy Kajun, I know you will understand. People harass me for calling an engine an engine and motor a motor. Us skilled trades folk in the electrical industry are just that way. So here goes: A motor converts electricity or other forms of kinetic energy into a mechanical motion. An engine is a mechanical device that uses a fuel source to create an output. There. I'm done explaining this. Well now you got this old country boy plumber confused....I always thought a engine was one of them fellers that had feathers & blankets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Phil DeGrave SASS #55202 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 MANY of the first "Motorcars" were in fact powered by electric "motors" and batteries. It wasn't till a little later that the industry switched over to "engines". By then the name/term "Motorcar" had stuck. P.S. Who knows what year the first Hybrid car was produced?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdeacon Joe Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 MANY of the first "Motorcars" were in fact powered by electric "motors" and batteries. It wasn't till a little later that the industry switched over to "engines". By then the name/term "Motorcar" had stuck. P.S. Who knows what year the first Hybrid car was produced?? That would be 1900. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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