Clueless Bob

Disclaimer first. It’s 0630 and the only copy of the rules available to me right now for copy and paste is Version 21.8, 2016. I don’t remember any major changes so this should do for the current discussion. Plainsman “Must use a SASS–legal single-shot rifle firing a traditional blackpowder rifle or revolver caliber cartridge (e.g., not a .30-30). The rifle may have spring actuated ejectors if they are standard for that rifle. .38 Special is legal Must use a side by side or single shot shotgun.” BASIC RULES FOR THE LONG RANGE COMPETITIONS “Buffalo Single Shot competition has further restrictions requiring original or replica rifles to be a design of US manufacture. Spring-loaded ejectors are also prohibited, except for Springfield Trapdoor Rifles.” Back when I set up and ran a Plainsman Match, these are the 2 sections I used to determine Traditional and Modern and why the Trapdoor is in Traditional class. In short, I would say that if your trying to do target practice on your TO when you opened your rifles action, you were Modern. If your worried about stepping on your brass when moving to a different position, you were Traditional. In some circles, folks also wanted Ruger Old Armies put in the Modern category, but that is a discussion for a later time. “―Rifle Caliber‖ competition rifles must use traditional, period, rimmed cartridges. No cartridge chambered for use in any SASS approved main match revolver or rifle may be used in the ―Rifle Caliber‖ competition, except the .56-50. Thus, .30-30 (.30 WCF), .38-55 Marlin & Ballard, .43 Spanish, or .45-70 Government cartridges are legal, while a .375 Winchester, .444 Marlin, .32-20, or .44-40 are not legal. Shotguns using slugs are not allowed.” The above rules actual makes my Burnside illegal, case is not a rimmed case(but I could argue the gas seal on the case is a rim, just not in a modern way, but I digress). It would also rule out the Gallagher, Smith, Sharps(percussion), and others. Odd since we portray 1860 to 1899 and this rule outlaws the very first cartridge based firearms. I would love to see a “Civil War” category where these first cartridge guns could come out and play. Though somewhat slower, they would not disrupt the flow to be a hindrance.

Well Dave, I happen to know someone() who might be able to help you out with that.

Well, it’s not expressly forbidden but... As it has been said, a dropped loaded cylinder is considered a loaded firearm. Believe it or not, that ruling is less than 10 years old. SASS has been going on for how long?? The person who caused this ruling() had been shooting C&B’s for many years prior and is not a novice with handling them. When it happened, the reasons are not important anymore (just that Murphy was in full force), it caused a big stir with as many folks agreeing to the ruling as there was folks saying it was wrong. There is a 4+(that’s when I stopped looking) pages on the wire about it. That was a while ago and a lot of water had gone under that bridge. The club where it happened, still call it the “Bob Rule”. At the time it happened, the Match Director made his call. I agreed and accepted his call. Next shooter.

I know when I retired(2006 with over 24 years), I was informed I was on the hook for 10 more years if needed, which was highly unlikely. Now if the reason for the recall was for a crime commented while in uniform, then that may be a possibility, but I would have thought the statue of limitations would be a factor.

A long while ago, an elderly shooter gets to her shotgun, picks it up, and loads 2 20 ga shells. They just disappear down the tubes. With a bewildering look, looks at the TO and says “I don’t think this is my gun”. The next up shooter, who sees this, looks at the shotgun she had and realizes the mistakes and loudly exclaims “Because it’s mine!!!”. Both of their guns looked like twins, both blued, same color butt stock co er, twin triggers, and even the stocks were very similar in color and grain. It was good laugh by all!!!

YEA HAW!!!! Another Plainsman Shooter!!!!

btt

I've always kept my firearms in the vehicle. Have never been asked and I won't lie to them if I was. It's just that I won't give them any addition information they don't need to know about.

Does being mounted on 2X4's, then C-Clamped to my workmate count?? Both my Lee Turret and Shotgun presses are mounted this way.

That was always the joke when I had to run a engines on fighters after a lot of maintenance was done. "If it catches fire, remember!! Forms first, then fire extinguisher! If asked why forms were used, just answer that it was the closest thing available and you were just trying to beat the flames down!!"

Same here. Just not too sure if I'm going to C&B or cartridge the pistols. I'm going to start loading cartridges this weekend and see how they do. Rifle choice will depend on the outcome. If I end up C&B, then the rifle will most likely be my 1860 Henry. Shotgun will be hammered. What are you thinking about using?

Applications printed out and will be in the mail next week!!

Let me re-phrase this. No we don't reload EVERY week, but when we do, we average 350-700 rounds a week. Boy, folks really are getting cabin fever!!

I have an old Lee Turret press as well, but we, Limey and I, still use a hand primer to seat primers. Slow, but you will know/feel if a primer isn't seating well long before you get the feedback through the handle. Limey and I share the loading process when we load 38's, which is what she shoots. She'll clean, size and deprime and place in plastic bags or shotgun boxes. I'll bell the mouth and place them in loading boxes. She then primes them and gives them back to me. I'll load powder and seat the bullet. She'll then crimp them. Slow, but we stay ahead of shooting match requirements and we get to do them as we can. Normally, we'll load anywhere between 350-700 rounds a week. If the weather is really nasty, we'll get a lot more done. Oh yea, we usually use Federals. Winchesters are our next go to primer, then whatever we can get our hands on. Another suggestion is to have several recipes with different powders too, just in case things go crazy and powder gets hard to come by again.

Could always think about Northeast Texas. Specifically, Hopkins County / Sulphur Springs area. You are less than 1 1/2 hours from Texas Ten Horns(1st weekend of the month) in Leanard, Barlands Bar 3(3rd weekend) near Clarksville. Just shy of 2 hours is Texas Toublemakers(1st Saturday) near Brownsburo. A few others in the area with little more driving. Cost of living is relatively low. Mild-ish winters, but some what hot summers. Very few Tornadoes in the area too(helps to be just outside Tornado Alley).