Guest Paniolo Cowboy SASS #75875 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 With the majority of folks on here saying that BIG CLOSE targets are the way to go. Have any of you ever been to a match that had targets so BIG and CLOSE that you were almost ashamed to say you shot such easy targets? I'm thinking about a match that I shot once that had very BIG targets only about 3 to 4 FEET from the end of my pistol. I don't remember hearing anyone complain about them being so close until they had to take their turn checking guns at the Unloading Table because there was so much splatter coming from the targets. But hey, the times were great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driftwood Johnson, SASS #38283 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Howdy No, I have never shot at targets that were only three or four feet away. But I have shot at targets that were so close I was afraid of getting nailed with bullet spatter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball #7709 Life Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diablo slim shootist Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Yes a club in Texas (that will remain nameless) puts on an annual event and 40 to 50 people shoot clean every time -they are proud of that success and people love it. i even shot it clean a few years back!! got the plaque to show for it still . ITS FUN TO SHOOT CLEAN EVEN IF ITS EASY! IMHO Diablo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastmaster Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 No. I've never seen targets 'that' close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Dog, SASS #20401 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Ye are a glutton for punishment aintcha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Fe River Stan,36999L Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Why would anyone be ashamed for shooting targets at a match? That's a ridiculous question unless you there's some sort of secret correlation between distance and size to one's manhood that I am not aware of. I'm curious why you seem to be constantly railing against big and close? Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Whiskers Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 I like to hear the ping every time I pull the trigger as well as the next cowboy, but I have to say that if something comes easily it does not carry the same emotional value as something that’s hard to do. Not talking impossible, but a challenge, not something that every can do. I know that this hobby is time based, but I still feel the there should be more importance put on accuracy. The western tradition values accuracy as much as it does the fast draw or quick fire. A 5 sec. miss seems a little puny to me. Those who know me, like Santa Fe River Stan, know that I will never challege the aces of this hobby, still I feel that focusing in speed at the expense of the other parts of the western tradition is lopsidded. Just my point of view. WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Stevens SASS#55996 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 nope, maybe if I took 85 sec to shoot. the stage. But the game has NEVER been a bullseye shoot. some get it some don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Bob, 24229 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Yes, but not as much so recently. For sake of safety I would like to think we have enuff cents to use paper at such extremely close ranges but sure, we used to put up big cardboard targets across a small poker table occasionally. Was it to close, you betcha, it was unreal how many shooters would get ahead of their ability to control the motor functions and suffer slip hammer. Even the good shooters can make this mental mistake. Kinda like asking if there is any such thing as to much cake and ice cream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas John Ringo, SASS #10138 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 With the majority of folks on here saying that BIG CLOSE targets are the way to go. Have any of you ever been to a match that had targets so BIG and CLOSE that you were almost ashamed to say you shot such easy targets? I'm thinking about a match that I shot once that had very BIG targets only about 3 to 4 FEET from the end of my pistol. I don't remember hearing anyone complain about them being so close until they had to take their turn checking guns at the Unloading Table because there was so much splatter coming from the targets. But hey, the times were great! NO to your question. But I have a question for you, Did EVERYONE clean the match, or clean all the BIG targets 3 - 4 feet from your barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeker, SASS #43022 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 "If ya reckon they are too big and too close to challenge ya...You ain't going fast enough!!!" ...Constable Nelson There you go - thats sums it all up. If you aint shooting clean AND winning overall at EVERY match... Then you haven't mastered big and close targets yet. Going smaller and further aint going to improve your times or standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt McAllister Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Ashamed, no. Bored, a few times. I would say a steady diet of that big and close would get old real fast. Sounds like your in need of a good Match to attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Canyon Kid #43974 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Just watch another stick of dynamite in the fire, pretty soon it will get ugly and the poster will get upset. Now to the question, NO. I have never seen a steel target at one yard, lots at 3 to 4 yards tho. If a club sets a target at one yard, they better provide a mechanism to eliminate splatter, ie hay bales, water trough, etc. and make darn certain the target is angled down from top to bottom. I have seen a clay simulating a strong box lock at about a yard and it worked perfect and had zero splashback. I have seen many derringer paper plate targets at that distance with no splashback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spittoon otool Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 With the majority of folks on here saying that BIG CLOSE targets are the way to go. Have any of you ever been to a match that had targets so BIG and CLOSE that you were almost ashamed to say you shot such easy targets? I'm thinking about a match that I shot once that had very BIG targets only about 3 to 4 FEET from the end of my pistol. I don't remember hearing anyone complain about them being so close until they had to take their turn checking guns at the Unloading Table because there was so much splatter coming from the targets. But hey, the times were great! The only shame I felt at the last "Big and Close" match was when I missed. Spittoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom, SASS #54973 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Gee...ya wonder why I've made the comments I've made... Oy!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvil Al #59168 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 With the majority of folks on here saying that BIG CLOSE targets are the way to go. Have any of you ever been to a match that had targets so BIG and CLOSE that you were almost ashamed to say you shot such easy targets? I'm thinking about a match that I shot once that had very BIG targets only about 3 to 4 FEET from the end of my pistol. I don't remember hearing anyone complain about them being so close until they had to take their turn checking guns at the Unloading Table because there was so much splatter coming from the targets. But hey, the times were great! Nope. Not one bit. But never seen targets at 3-4 feet. Very few at 3 yards. Most around here are 5-8 yards on pistol. Target distance has not changed ANY from the time I started SASS. However, I have shot a few places with small far targets. The clubs I tend to like to shoot at. Have targets 5-8 yards. Maybe a few at 4 yards and could have a shot of two longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckwheat Jack Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 We sometimes shoot a target we call the Big Cowboy. It is large enough that the shame comes not from shooting, but from missing. Missing happens because you think it's too big and close to miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shapiro Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Ashamed? No. Bored? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESAMY KID Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 BIG BIGGER BIGGEST Shot at all kinds big and close. I've also seen people miss those BIG targets and laugh about it. Its fun and I like the clang. Jesamy Kid #34841 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waimea Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Paniolo I never met a big target I didn't like. If it's too big for aiming I shoot it outlaw and feel doubly proud I didn't miss it. They should make SG targets bigger too. Waimea (who can usually hit the broad-side-of-the-barn) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Branch Louie Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Distance, close or far, makes no difference. The best shooters will still win. I like big, close targets for some matches, people shoot good, times are a little better, and the best shooters STILL win..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box Herder, SASS 73857 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 +1 to Creeker- never too close to have fun and keep them coming back again to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greeenriver SASS #38681 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! But I have been ashamed for MISSING some of them!!! Greeenriver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 I think big and close closes the gap between the really fast shooters and the ones who are almost really fast. The really fast will still win almost all of the time, but the margin of victory will be smaller. I guess I haven't been in the game long enough to get bored with big and close. Maybe partly because the two monthlys I shoot regularly are different, one with smaller farther, and one that leans towards big and close. Embarrassed by shooting the big and close? No way. Embarrassed by missing them? You bet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Well, it's a pretty neat sweet setup to only allow a person who wins every single match, never misses a target to be the only one who would be able to say targets are too close, too big. Bud, Deuce, Spencer or any of the other top shooters don't win every match, so bascially no one's comment would be valid. So I guess at a match with more difficult targets as long as at least one shooter doesn't miss a target and shoots clean, all the shooters with a bunch of misses can't complain that the targets were too difficult. Sure, I miss some big and close targets too but I still prefer to have the chance to miss some targets other than big and close. Smokin Gator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 With the majority of folks on here saying that BIG CLOSE targets are the way to go. Have any of you ever been to a match that had targets so BIG and CLOSE that you were almost ashamed to say you shot such easy targets? I'm thinking about a match that I shot once that had very BIG targets only about 3 to 4 FEET from the end of my pistol. I don't remember hearing anyone complain about them being so close until they had to take their turn checking guns at the Unloading Table because there was so much splatter coming from the targets. But hey, the times were great! Hi Sweetie, Distance of the targets is not the determining factor for splatter. Condition (pock marks), angles (of the targets and to the shooter), and what is under the targets cause more splatter than close targets. I'm not embarassed to shoot. I am embarassed on occasion to miss. Regards, Allie Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. P. Cobb Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Distance of the targets is not the determining factor for splatter. Condition (pock marks), angles (of the targets and to the shooter), and what is under the targets cause more splatter than close targets. Regards, Allie Mo Angle and condition will cause splatter, not distance. Now if you were ten inches maybe. Would you be ashamed at shooting a home invader at four feet? Me, NOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joe West, SASS#1532 L Regulator Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 No. We've had targets at 3 feet, they are paper or a clay. That's fun for the occasional target and helps mix it up. That type of card table justice appeals to me. I've written stages where misses don't count and the targets are just there to show you where to point the appropriate gun. Strangly I see more problems confounding shooters, delays, and even procedurals when they have to do something that different. As long as the targets are as safe as we can make them, mix it up anyway your facility will allow. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elfego, SASS #50493 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Targets last longer if they are further away and there is less danger of splash back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mean Matt McCord, SASS #24683 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! But I have been ashamed for MISSING some of them!!! Greeenriver What he said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Mike #8595 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 I am not taking the bait ..............................LOL...................... Ok, so I changed my mind yes real big, and real close, takes more planning to do it right.. due to .................... inscreased splash back potential border town shoot has perfected that as best as ya can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Masked Man Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Ok, well 30+ replies and 90+% say NO. I agree with 'em. I've seen targets I thought were too big and close to miss, and felt shame at, sure enough, missing them! I agree with those who say if you never miss, you aren't pushing your speed hard enough. I suspect I may not feel pride, but I would not feel shame at not missing a barn from the inside! Hi-Yo and Awaaaay, That Masked Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Paniolo Sweetie, I sent you an email. If you don't get it, let me know and I will send it in a PM. Regards, Allie Mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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