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Creeker, SASS #43022

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  • Birthday 04/21/1966

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    Doing the best I can do. Guns, Corvettes and Life.

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  1. Did I order something PHYSICAL? Pretty sure we were discussing differing forms of written communication. Touting pen and paper applications, filling out a physical check (one easily lost, mutilated, altered or forged), or paying a fee for a money order, stuffing it into an envelope (which has yet another cost), paying still another fee (stamp) for transport and then waiting days for the package to arrive at its destination. Or use electronic email and payment methods - instant, verifiable and secure. Yes, we should definitely be insulting and dismissive of folks desiring to use the method of communication that is superior in every measurable metric.
  2. When you arrive by horseback without your eyeglasses, granola bars and heart meds - we can all acknowledge your dedication to the era. But since you used the paved road to get there, GPS navigation to find the range and the internet to debate the topic - I don't see any moral conflict to using modern technology regarding registration or payment. We are just PRETENDING to be old west cowboys - the Pony Express is long since deceased.
  3. What does "lazy" have to do with using archaic and outdated methods? Is a auto mechanic "lazy" because they no longer work on the boiler tank of your 1904 Stanley Steamer ? Is the Dr. "lazy" because he no longer subscribes to the ritual sacrifice of a goat for your head cold? Is your local movie theatre "lazy" because they don't have a piano player to entertain during the title cards of your black and white silent film? Writing a paper check, stuffing it in an envelope, paying somebody to physically transport it across the country (hoping that it is not lost, mutilated or stolen) is an antiquated and ridiculous operation and will soon seem as out of date as blood letting.
  4. First - Facebook sucks. Second - your club needs an actual navigable WEBSITE. Your site ABSOLUTELY HAS to have: Location; including address, GPS, range name - any specifics as to location on the range, is there a range office sign in - in addition to the match sign in? (directions {and DISTANCES} from various landmarks are appreciated as well). This is very important in large metro areas where the shooters choice of lodging with the same city name can be next door or an hour+ away. Any range specific rules: prohibited shooting styles, plant and poke, parking, RV's, dogs, spectators, etc. Calendar: Date (and TIME, for setup, registration, safety meeting, first rounds downrange) of your next shoot. Cost of said shoot. Any match extras: Side matches, lunch, discounts at local eateries, retailers or attractions. Date of your next annual (if applicable) Sign up form, schedule of events. Local lodging and accomodations info. Past Scores List of Officers and their contacts At LEAST ONE phone number to a club official for questions or visiting shooter inquiries (this has to be someone willing to actually answer a call or at minimum RETURN a call in a timely manner) Nice things to have: A place to print/ electronically sign waivers. A place to join the clubs mailing list. Photo album/ videos - link to your youtube page. Stages for the upcoming match. Club/ Match philosophy as to match design, target arrays and sizes. I spent nearly 20 years running a VERY successful club - The above items were mandatory for my club to ensure anyone/ everyone that had any interest in joining us was provided with the most opportunity possible. Now that I am traveling more and visiting more distant clubs and annuals; it amazes me the lack of effort put forward to entice attendance at various clubs. Painted Lady and I enjoy traveling and road trips - so "when" I find a club in proximity to our destination on the same weekend; I am excited to explore their website to ascertain if I want to attend. If I cannot easily/ conveniently find the above information - and cannot make contact with a club official; then I simply pass on by. I'm sure I have missed out on some good, fun shoots - but CAS is not a driving force in my life any longer and my time is too dear to spend it at an event that chooses to not communicate basic information. Or does so thru a format that is not conducive to ease of finding specific information (Facebook).
  5. Im sorry - one of the most iconic rock songs of all time neutered into grocery store background noise.
  6. Different shooters have differing desires. I go to shoots to compete - and to do under as equal of conditions as possible. I personally don't go to shoots to bs, socialize or visit. I have a very simple policy; if I don't enjoy the shoot - I don't return. If the match is poorly written, the expectations poorly communicated and the match lacks consistent (shooter to shooter, posse to possee) standards because of poorly communicated instructions - then we are not competing in a like manner. And I'm insulted that my time was wasted by folks that expect me to pay for, suffer thru and then be positive about their lack of effort. I am very open about only attending shoots that I believe I will enjoy - stylistically and operationally. I would rather stay home than shoot a match that is disagreeable - and since I am not there for the people; I can appraise the event based solely on the event. I firmly believe that repeatedly patronizing shoots that don't satisfy your desires only leads to being served more of the same.
  7. With all due respect - this is not aimed at you specifically; but this mindset is the ROOT cause of almost all the issues. Laziness in stage writing led to the creation of "Stage Conventions". Lazy stage writing has led to the trend toward trying to overly shorten directions and omitting pertinent information. The stage writers "job" is to convey the information, "ALL THE INFORMATION", necessary to allow multiple shooters to perform the same actions in a safe and consistent manner. There is no prize for brevity. Ink is cheap and electrons are free. There is no cost penalty for a few extra letters (or even forbid; extra sentences). And I fully contend - those extra letters or sentences MORE than pay for themselves by the elimination of questions at stage read and shooters errors/ frustration on the firing line. Less is more... No, no it is not. If you want people to do things in a consistent manner - to do those things thoroughly and completely. You have to provide clear, thorough instructions that define your expectations. The rules of clear communication have not changed - who, what, where, when and how (and to what extent). What has changed is lazy stage writers have decided that "the shooter should already know this" so I don't have to write it. (kinda glad heart surgeon teachers and jet pilot instructors don't subscribe to this theory) I loved writing stages - and I wrote good stages. I took great pride in my stages/ matches because I took great effort in making those stages/ matches the very best I could. I analyzed EVERY single stage I have ever written from the viewpoint of a lefty AND from a righty. From the viewpoint of a BP shooter AND from smokeless. From the viewpoint of a Duelist, a Gunfighter AND a supported shooter. And after the steel was set; looked at everything AGAIN from the viewpoint of a tall shooter AND a short one to ensure every variable was considered and addressed - and changes noted, made and communicated as needed. I do not understand the mindset of someone that wants to write stages and then whines that "It's too many letters" and too much work, so they cannot be bothered to write them completely.
  8. With all due respect - until the convention is rewritten. The RULEBOOK that every shooter receives reflects something different. Yet another example of short sighted situational rules - people create bad rules and then double down by creating caveats to bad rules. Then triple down by pretending that by creating caveats and conditions; they are doing anything beyond perpetuating the problem they themselves created. And these minutes are from 2016 - it's now 2024 and the rulebook still reads as I read it.
  9. The stage convention says "If NO starting position then blah blah blah" I contend that NO direction or instruction means exactly that; no - none - nada - zip - zilch. And so by contrast if ANY direction or instruction is provided (no matter how vague or lacking) it is no longer NONE - and by the very WORDS in the convention makes the convention moot. The stage convention says if NO starting position; it does not say IF the starting position is somewhat incomplete or IF the details are vague - then use the convention to fill out the details. As Tyrel said so eloquently; Standby... BEEP.
  10. Shhhh - they didn't know I considered them friends.
  11. Bull, I have found you're almost always in agreement. With the wrong side of the argument. And before anyone takes offense - I am friends with Bull and Tennesee Williams. And as such - I reserve the rights in perpetuity to mercilessly argue with them the most minuscule and unimportant points.
  12. And there are a fair contingent - even among the RO committee that agree with you. I just happen to be one that doesn't. The conventions were written to "fill in the blanks" when stage writers failed to do so. They were NOT written to create additional /supplemental required instruction that must be absorbed into the existing written instruction. Ill provide yet another analogy. Stage convention: Your breakfast will consist of cereal served in a bowl with milk, a glass of orange juice and a sliced banana. Written instruction: Your breakfast will consist of eggs and bacon, coffee and an apple. My interpretation: I'm getting eggs, bacon on a plate, coffee in a steaming mug and (hopefully) a green Granny Smith apple to bite into per written instruction. The stage convention is no longer applicable because of written deviation from convention. IF we insist anything not SPECIFICALLY exempted by written instruction is still required per convention: Your eggs and bacon MUST be served in a BOWL - as a plate (even tho thats expected for eggs and bacon) was not over ridden and MUST have milk poured upon it. Your coffee MUST be served in a GLASS - a mug was not over ridden. And no biting into the skin and tearing it part with your teeth because your apple MUST be sliced - because sliced was not over ridden. Anyone besides me see the silliness here? At some point - someone in SASS decided they were better stage writers than us and that (like a lot of the rules) "that just doesn't look right" - so they over stepped. And many lazy stage writers - who seem to think that each letter on the stage instruction costs them money; grabbed hold of the concept to make defaults their standard default. And then others conflate and intermingle the instructions so every staging, body placement and hand positioning must be lawyered to determine what was said - what may have been left out and what terms from the conventions they feel needed to be added. The game is supposed to be easy. And the conventions to create consistency when the stage writer failed. Attempting to intermingle, parse and insert every word of the stage conventions into over riding writen stage instructions is not making it easier and is not making it more consistent.
  13. IMO - Stage conventions only exist in the ABSENCE of an instruction. That is 100% why stage conventions were created - that in the absence of a specific instruction or allowance; stage writers / shooters would be subjected to a default. Stage conventions were not created to intermingle with the written stage instruction. It is not required to parse and implement every word of the stage convention that the stage writer does not specifically exempt. Written instruction OR stage convention; it is an either/ or situation. This intermingling of written instruction AND stage convention is exactly why you see inconsistent application/ outcomes. Attempting to combine written instruction AND stage conventions to extrapolate what exactly they are allowed to do. Even to address your example; shotgun/ rifle safely staged vertically at window. IF that is what the stage writer provides - how do you reconcile that with the assertion that stage convention defines "safe" as lying flat and requires such to be safe? You cannot. As soon as ANY specific instruction is given; the written instruction over rides the stage convention that is applicable to that situation.
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