Rye Miles #13621 Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 Dock workers strike! This could be ugly https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-port-strike-45000-dockworkers-begin-midnight-114357744 Quote
Cypress Sun Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 If I said what I thought about their strike and unions in general, I'd be banned for life. I hope their jobs are ALL taken by automation! 4 4 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted October 1, 2024 Author Posted October 1, 2024 15 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said: If I said what I thought about their strike and unions in general, I'd be banned for life. I hope their jobs are ALL taken by automation! I’m in agreement 100%🤠 1 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted October 1, 2024 Author Posted October 1, 2024 They want a 77% wage increase over the next 5 years! The company offered 50%.... Quote
Injun Ryder, SASS #36201L Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 Lots of "migrants" needing work. 1 Quote
Blackwater 53393 Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 Nothing but pure greed!! Mostly driven by union management that actually has no care for the rank and file! Automation can’t happen soon enough for some of these people!! 5 Quote
Cypress Sun Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 5 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said: Nothing but pure greed!! Mostly driven by union management that actually has no care for the rank and file! Automation can’t happen soon enough for some of these people!! There ought to be a way to put multiple 'likes' on a post. 4 1 Quote
Chantry Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 (edited) I'm not pro union, but there was a news article (maybe BBC) that stated that the hourly wage for a dock worker is $20hr - $38/hr, which works out to approximately $41,000 to $77,000 a year. In CT, NY, NJ and MA, $41,000 MIGHT get you a 1 bedroom apartment in places you'd rather not live. While I find their numbers a bit high, they are based on living comfortably and responsibly: https://smartasset.com/data-studies/state-salary-living-comfortably-2024 On edit: Dock worker isn't the easiest job in the world either. Edited October 1, 2024 by Chantry Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted October 1, 2024 Author Posted October 1, 2024 7 minutes ago, Chantry said: I'm not pro union, but there was a news article (maybe BBC) that stated that the hourly wage for a dock worker is $20hr - $38/hr, which works out to approximately $41,000 to $77,000 a year. In CT, NY, NJ and MA, $41,000 MIGHT get you a 1 bedroom apartment in places you'd rather not live. While I find their numbers a bit high, they are based on living comfortably and responsibly: https://smartasset.com/data-studies/state-salary-living-comfortably-2024 On edit: Dock worker isn't the easiest job in the world either. Well no one told them to work their butts off on the docks in a non skilled labor job. That’s their choice and they can make a lot more with overtime. $5.00 a year for the next 5 years would be an extra $25.00 an hour. Who’ll pay for that raise ? Us consumers thats who! https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/many-dockworkers-make-150000-or-more-why-they-re-about-to-strike/ar-AA1rugT0 1 Quote
Cypress Sun Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chantry said: I'm not pro union, but there was a news article (maybe BBC) that stated that the hourly wage for a dock worker is $20hr - $38/hr, which works out to approximately $41,000 to $77,000 a year. In CT, NY, NJ and MA, $41,000 MIGHT get you a 1 bedroom apartment in places you'd rather not live. While I find their numbers a bit high, they are based on living comfortably and responsibly: https://smartasset.com/data-studies/state-salary-living-comfortably-2024 On edit: Dock worker isn't the easiest job in the world either. The union east coast minimum base price is $39 per hour with the west coast workers earning considerably more. They want 77% raises over 6 years and a complete ban on automation. They've been offered 50% raises over 6 years, triple contributions to their pension, better benefits (whatever that means) and the automation wording/rules to remain in place...they turned it down. No matter what happens, the normal, everyday American consumer pays for it one way or another. I say screw these greedy people...they don't mind screwing the rest of us and I'm fed up with it. Edited October 1, 2024 by Cypress Sun 3 Quote
Matthew Duncan Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 IMHO today’s Unions sole purpose is to funnel union dues into Politician’s pockets. That’s why the TSA was created and funding for more IRS agents, to pay back the Unions for “their” donations. 4 Quote
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 Let's pray TN doesn't go through withdrawal symptoms unable to make 'nanner splits. 2 Quote
Blackwater 53393 Posted October 1, 2024 Posted October 1, 2024 Starting pay for a new worker is $20.00 an hour! At three years, it’s over $30.00 an hour and at six years it’s a few cents short of $40.00 an hour. SO! In five years, starting pay would be $35.00 an hour and topped out would be over $70.00! Now! It’s been almost 15 years since I retired. I had fifteen years at that job as a fabricator and electrician with mid level management responsibilities at the largest entertainment transportation company in the country. My hourly rate was just over $31.00 an hour! I DID get plenty of overtime. I made a pretty good living… 3 Quote
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 Kiss an awful lot of "year round" fresh fruit and veggies good bye for a while. These Cretan's will rapidly strangle the economy for nothing more than their own GREED. 1 2 Quote
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 15 hours ago, Cypress Sun said: If I said what I thought about their strike and unions in general, I'd be banned for life. I hope their jobs are ALL taken by automation! Thumbs up! 1 2 Quote
Sedalia Dave Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 (edited) 21 hours ago, Blackwater 53393 said: Nothing but pure greed!! Mostly driven by union management that actually has no care for the rank and file! Automation can’t happen soon enough for some of these people!! 21 hours ago, Cypress Sun said: There ought to be a way to put multiple 'likes' on a post. Edited October 2, 2024 by Sedalia Dave 1 3 Quote
Pat Riot Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 On the west coast once a “dock worker” gets a few years under their belt there is a very good chance they are pulling down $150-$200,000 per year. I know this because a good friend of mine’s dad worked the docks in LA Harbor. Also included in this title of “dock worker” are Stevedores, Crane Operators, Longshoremen. One is only a “dock worker” or laborer for a few years then they start moving up in status and pay through seniority. I have no sympathy or support these (BLEEP bleep, bleeping) no good money grubbing (Bleepers) And another thing, the days of dockworkers throwing bags of stuff over their shoulders and humping all day is Film Noir dramatics. They aren’t the dock workers of old. Their swagger comes from emulating the old days, not from the “work” they do now. Screw ‘em! I’ll eat canned goods. The great thing is maybe this will open people’s eyes as to how much stuff is imported and no longer made here. Oh, and by the way, this will put another damper on our favorite sport - Shooting. 4 Quote
Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 Posted October 2, 2024 Posted October 2, 2024 Mush the same story up here. 1 Quote
Dirty Dan Dawkins Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 Well, this guy is a fool…. https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/port-strike-union-boss-harold-daggett-rails-against-ezpass-says-congress-should-stop-machines 1 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted October 3, 2024 Author Posted October 3, 2024 (edited) They also don’t want automation, well guess what it’s coming whether they like it or not! These companies want it and the workers have no business telling them how to run their business. They can strike for higher wages sure by all means go for it but demanding companies run the way they’ve want is ridiculous!😡 Edited October 3, 2024 by Rye Miles #13621 Quote
Cypress Sun Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 32 minutes ago, Rip Snorter said: Luddite, obviously! Yeah...luddite alright...rich luddite. Quote
Sedalia Dave Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 48 minutes ago, Dirty Dan Dawkins said: Well, this guy is a fool…. https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/port-strike-union-boss-harold-daggett-rails-against-ezpass-says-congress-should-stop-machines Unfortunately that Luddite fool is the head of the Union and currently has an inordinate amount of influence at the negotiating table. My gut feeling is that this is going to be a long and nasty strike. Harold Daggett is not going to back down. I doubt he'll back down even if he looses the support of the rank and file. 1 Quote
Cypress Sun Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 2 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: Unfortunately that Luddite fool is the head of the Union and currently has an inordinate amount of influence at the negotiating table. My gut feeling is that this is going to be a long and nasty strike. Harold Daggett is not going to back down. I doubt he'll back down even if he looses the support of the rank and file. He's already got his ($900,000++ yr salary)...what does he care. Just another greedy narcissist. 1 2 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted October 3, 2024 Author Posted October 3, 2024 6 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said: Unfortunately that Luddite fool is the head of the Union and currently has an inordinate amount of influence at the negotiating table. My gut feeling is that this is going to be a long and nasty strike. Harold Daggett is not going to back down. I doubt he'll back down even if he looses the support of the rank and file. When asked if the president would apply the Taft Hartley act ( which he won’t) Daggett said “ Yea go ahead instead of 30 containers a shift we’ll do 6 or 7. This guy is a real scumbag !! 2 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted October 3, 2024 Author Posted October 3, 2024 Just heard they suspended their stoppage until Jan 15. They’ll go back to work while negotiations continue. https://www.yahoo.com/news/source-union-45-000-us-222640182.html 3 Quote
Matthew Duncan Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 Appears a single entity has a monopoly from Maine to Texas. The monopoly should be broken up to allow for competiion. 1 1 Quote
Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 And then there's the knee-jerk reactions. A close relation of mine works for a Southern california supermarket chain; his son works for Costco. Joey tells me that there's been a run on toilet paper and bottled water at his store, and his son reports that his Costco sold out of TP two days ago. What the heck ~ this is an East Coast issue at this time; plus, bung fodder is a domestic product - not much of that stuff goes through the ports, unless it's on it's way out. Mebbe @Rye Miles #13621's news can bring about some consumer sanity... and maybe the union will avail themselves of the opportunity to replace their so-called "leadership." Na-aa-ah.... 4 Quote
Pat Riot Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 No TP, Paper Towels or bottled water at Sam’s Club today. Complete pallet aisles were clear. Morons panic buying. No paper products and little bottled water This area is always full of products on pallets. Here’s the great part. When the strike is over the lady at the register said Sam’s will not accept returns of these goods. I really don’t like people in general. Especially weaselly selfish spineless douches that can’t buck up or use their brains for anything besides their own petty BS. I just read that the strike may be over. I think the best way we can pee all over these dock pansies is buy products that do not go through the docks. Made in USA, Canada and Mexico don’t come in through the docks, I am pretty sure of that. 3 Quote
watab kid Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 i think the biden/haris/walse crew worked their magic with ;labor but dont think for a minute this is over , the real problem is inflation and its cost to all , our debt is a real problem too that no one is talking about these days , 1 Quote
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 About bananas … I checked prices just to see the effect. BJs, my local wholesale club, had them at 1.39 /3 lb for the longest time. Now 1.69. Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted October 4, 2024 Author Posted October 4, 2024 2 hours ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: About bananas … I checked prices just to see the effect. BJs, my local wholesale club, had them at 1.39 /3 lb for the longest time. Now 1.69. My local grocery had them for $.79 lb for organic and $.59 lb for regular Quote
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