ORNERY OAF Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1862 Pocket Conversion 380 ACP 6" Barrel Standard Blue Lol, wow, someone may have posted this already, but a 380????? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORNERY OAF Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 Don't have a lot of 380 experience, although I did reload a bunch for a guy to trade for some 1911 work. ..had a ppk but it was a jam-o-matic, sad cause I wanted to be James bond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORNERY OAF Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 Now I'm wondering ifn I could load 380 with the holy black 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORNERY OAF Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 No loading gate , 6 in barrel and no shell ejector....but ypu could definitely shorten the barrel and move the sight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Oughta be no recoil. I guess they figured everyone is now making 9mm conversions, why not add .380? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORNERY OAF Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 Watched a cople you tube videos, looks fun, but 380 ain't exactly cheap, I'm sure I could reload it. But insure would chopnthe barrel off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Hey Ornery, The thing has been around for a while. I don't know anyone who has one. Not sure what a body would do with it. it is interesting though. Iffin you getz one, give us a "range report." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORNERY OAF Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 Colorado, I been tying to talk myself into getting one but like you, I can't see a reason why,lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawhorse Kid Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Chop the barrel down to 2 inches and it would a nice little pocket pistol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 im not certain what prompted that choice of ammo ...............but its an interesting revolver id like to handle at the store , i already have my colt 380 govment so dont need another but its a fun looking item , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bullweed Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Kinda smart. There is +P ammo in 9mm and .38 Special out there that could be too much for this gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) Okay, I got one and I do already reload .380, so I'm thinking on how much to take off that bbl. Here's a mock-up of what I'm thinking about... Edited August 3 by WOLFY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 On 6/7/2024 at 8:20 PM, watab kid said: im not certain what prompted that choice of ammo ...............but its an interesting revolver id like to handle at the store , i already have my colt 380 govment so dont need another but its a fun looking item , Got one of those myself. That and my old Colt '38 Dick Special are my EDC pieces. Big Daddy is a 1911 in .45. I don't see myself needing anything more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 21 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Got one of those myself. That and my old Colt '38 Dick Special are my EDC pieces. Big Daddy is a 1911 in .45. I don't see myself needing anything more. i agree , i have carries in 380 , 9mm and 45 acp , i feel i have most everything i need , but always fun to look , right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 (edited) On 8/4/2024 at 10:56 PM, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Got one of those myself. That and my old Colt '38 Dick Special are my EDC pieces. Big Daddy is a 1911 in .45. I don't see myself needing anything more. one of those as in the Colt .380 Govt or 62 Pocket Conversion? one of my faves for light weighted carry is an old Pocketlite Mustang Edited August 8 by WOLFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Never should have sold my stainless Mustang! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 So, I thought it’d be better for me to bump this thread than start a new one. The barrel of my 62 had “Cimarron Firearms LLC Fredericksburg Texas USA Mfgd by A Uberti Italy” along it’s top. Local gunsmith looked and said, the most he could shorten mine would be to 4.5” since that’s the section of bbl with no rollmark. Has anyone else gotten theirs chopped down yet? I dunno that it’s worth going in on 1.5” shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Let me see if I'm following that correctly. He said he could not shorten it any further, because that would cut into the name roll marked on the top of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 On 6/5/2024 at 6:46 PM, ORNERY OAF said: Now I'm wondering ifn I could load 380 with the holy black You can load a .380 with sand or cinnamon or Jello. Whether or not it will do anything is another question altogether 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Alpo said: Let me see if I'm following that correctly. He said he could not shorten it any further, because that would cut into the name roll marked on the top of it? Exactly. I know you can’t mess with serial number and make & model info. I’ve never heard of “importer” being included in what can’t be altered nor obscured. Edited August 15 by WOLFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Yeah, I don't think you're allowed to obliterate Uberti, but Cimarron? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Brasse, SASS #3562 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Someone needs to suggest to Uberti to move the markings. Maybe “Cimarron Firearms LLC Fredericksburg Texas USA" on the top justified to the rear & "Mfgd by A Uberti Italy” on the bottom justified to the rear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Lizard Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 On 8/6/2024 at 4:14 AM, Eyesa Horg said: Never should have sold my stainless Mustang! Did it have 4 on the floor....And 4 barrel.... Texas Lizard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 Chop it yourself and use a carriage bolt in a drill with lapping compound to crown it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 hour ago, WOLFY said: Exactly. I know you can’t mess with serial number and make & model info. I’ve never heard of “importer” being included in what can’t be altered nor obscured. I did a search on the ATF website. Spent the better part of 40 minutes reading through that site. All of it seems to address “Importers” not purchasers. I couldn’t find one thing about a gun owner removing the import marks. Here’s my search: https://search.atf.gov/search?query=Can+a+gun+owner+remove+importer+marks%3F&op=Search&affiliate=atf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: I did a search on the ATF website. Spent the better part of 40 minutes reading through that site. All of it seems to address “Importers” not purchasers. I couldn’t find one thing about a gun owner removing the import marks. Here’s my search: https://search.atf.gov/search?query=Can+a+gun+owner+remove+importer+marks%3F&op=Search&affiliate=atf Ur the man, Pat Riot. I owe you an hour worth of beers. If I get “Cimarron Firearms LLC Fredericksburg Tx USA” engraved into the bottom of the grip frame, would that make it alright to remove their name and location from the bbl? Edited August 16 by WOLFY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 6 minutes ago, WOLFY said: Ur the man, Pat Riot. I owe you an hour worth of beers. If I get “Cimarron Firearms LLC Fredericksburg Tx USA” engraved into the bottom of the grip frame, would that make it alright to remove their name and location from the bbl? I would think, as long as you follow the ATF guidelines for size and depth. But, I would call the ATF and ask them about cutting off your barrel past the import mark. I highly doubt they’d get too excited over an 1860 revolver design. The one thing I have found with Feds and their regulations if they don’t have a reg for it they will give you an authoritative opinion. If they can’t cite a reg ask to speak to their supervisor or manager. If you want to pizz ‘em off ask for their “superior”. It irks em. For those of you that are about to have a cow over calling the ATF, save it. You ain’t the one calling so you’re safe from their electronic mind probes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Joker Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 They won't do that over the phone. See you need to write a letter to the technical branch so they can issue a findings letter. Only thing worth trying to hang your hat on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpo Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 That's what I was thinking. Having an email - which can disappear into the ether - or a phone call which can be easily denied --- neither one is a real good choice. Write them a letter. An actual real snail mail letter on a piece of paper. And hopefully you will get an answer back. On a piece of paper. With the ATF letterhead. And an actual signature. That way if they decide later on down the pike that you have broken the law, you can show them the letter that says that you were not breaking the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip Snorter Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Register / Return Receipt the letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackwater 53393 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 We remove the factory barrels from our match guns and replace them with custom octagonal barrels. How would shortening a factory barrel be any different?? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 id like to know thayt as well , im not argueing here - i dont know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOLFY Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 7 hours ago, Texas Joker said: Chop it yourself and use a carriage bolt in a drill with lapping compound to crown it. I like the way you think, TJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 My first thought was why not 38 Colt? Then 32 S&W in 6 shot cylinder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 11 hours ago, Pat Riot said: For those of you that are about to have a cow over calling the ATF, save it. You ain’t the one calling so you’re safe from their electronic mind probes. The mind probes are getting better all the time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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