Pea shooter

[ORNERY OAF]

1862 Pocket Conversion 380 ACP 6" Barrel Standard Blue

 

Lol, wow, someone may have posted this already, but a 380?????

[ORNERY OAF]

Don't have a lot of 380 experience, although I did reload a bunch for a guy to trade for some 1911 work. ..had a ppk but it was a jam-o-matic, sad cause I wanted to be James bond

[ORNERY OAF]

Now I'm wondering ifn I could load 380 with the holy black

[ORNERY OAF]

No loading gate , 6 in barrel and no shell ejector....but ypu could definitely shorten the barrel and move the sight

[Pat Riot]

Oughta be no recoil. 

 

I guess they figured everyone is now making 9mm conversions, why not add .380?

[ORNERY OAF]

Watched a cople you tube videos, looks fun, but 380 ain't exactly cheap, I'm sure I could reload it. But insure would chopnthe barrel off

[Colorado Coffinmaker]

Hey Ornery,

 

The thing has been around for a while.  I don't know anyone who has one.  Not sure what a body would do with it.  it is interesting though.  Iffin you getz one, give us a "range report."

[ORNERY OAF]

Colorado,  I been tying to talk myself into getting one but like you, I can't see a reason why,lol

[Sawhorse Kid]

Chop the barrel down to 2 inches and it would a nice little pocket pistol. 

[watab kid]

im not certain what prompted that choice of ammo ...............but its an interesting revolver id like to handle at the store , i already have my colt 380 govment so dont need another but its a fun looking item , 

[Tom Bullweed]

Kinda smart.

There is +P ammo in 9mm and .38 Special out there that could be too much for this gun.

[WOLFY]

Okay, I got one and I do already reload .380, so I'm thinking on how much to take off that bbl.

 

Here's a mock-up of what I'm thinking about...

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

On 6/7/2024 at 8:20 PM, watab kid said:

im not certain what prompted that choice of ammo ...............but its an interesting revolver id like to handle at the store , i already have my colt 380 govment so dont need another but its a fun looking item , 

Got one of those myself.  

 

That and my old Colt '38 Dick Special are my EDC pieces.  Big Daddy is a 1911 in .45.

 

I don't see myself needing anything more.

[watab kid]

21 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

Got one of those myself.  

 

That and my old Colt '38 Dick Special are my EDC pieces.  Big Daddy is a 1911 in .45.

 

I don't see myself needing anything more.

i agree , i have carries in 380 , 9mm and 45 acp , i feel i have most everything i need , but always fun to look , right ? 

[WOLFY]

On 8/4/2024 at 10:56 PM, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

Got one of those myself.  

 

That and my old Colt '38 Dick Special are my EDC pieces.  Big Daddy is a 1911 in .45.

 

I don't see myself needing anything more.

one of those as in the Colt .380 Govt or 62 Pocket Conversion?

 

one of my faves for light weighted carry is an old Pocketlite Mustang

[Eyesa Horg]

Never should have sold my stainless Mustang!

[WOLFY]

So, I thought it’d be better for me to bump this thread than start a new one.  The barrel of my 62 had “Cimarron Firearms LLC Fredericksburg Texas USA Mfgd by A Uberti Italy” along it’s top.

 

Local gunsmith looked and said, the most he could shorten mine would be to 4.5” since that’s the section of bbl with no rollmark.

 

Has anyone else gotten theirs chopped down yet?  I dunno that it’s worth going in on 1.5” shorter.

[Alpo]

Let me see if I'm following that correctly.

 

He said he could not shorten it any further, because that would cut into the name roll marked on the top of it?

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

On 6/5/2024 at 6:46 PM, ORNERY OAF said:

Now I'm wondering ifn I could load 380 with the holy black

You can load a .380 with sand or cinnamon or Jello.

 

Whether or not it will do anything is another question altogether

[WOLFY]

56 minutes ago, Alpo said:

Let me see if I'm following that correctly.

 

He said he could not shorten it any further, because that would cut into the name roll marked on the top of it?

 

Exactly.  I know you can’t mess with serial number and make & model info.  I’ve never heard of  “importer” being included in what can’t be altered nor obscured.

[Alpo]

Yeah, I don't think you're allowed to obliterate Uberti, but Cimarron?

[Earl Brasse, SASS #3562]

Someone needs to suggest to Uberti to move the markings.

 

Maybe  “Cimarron Firearms LLC Fredericksburg Texas USA" on the top justified to the rear & "Mfgd by A Uberti Italy” on the bottom justified to the rear.

[Texas Lizard]

On 8/6/2024 at 4:14 AM, Eyesa Horg said:

Never should have sold my stainless Mustang!

Did it have 4 on the floor....And 4 barrel....

 

Texas Lizard

[Texas Joker]

Chop it yourself and use a carriage bolt in a drill with lapping compound to crown it.

 

 

[Pat Riot]

1 hour ago, WOLFY said:

 

Exactly.  I know you can’t mess with serial number and make & model info.  I’ve never heard of  “importer” being included in what can’t be altered nor obscured.

I did a search on the ATF website. Spent the better part of 40 minutes reading through that site. All of it seems to address “Importers” not purchasers. I couldn’t find one thing about a gun owner removing the import marks. 
 

Here’s my search:

https://search.atf.gov/search?query=Can+a+gun+owner+remove+importer+marks%3F&op=Search&affiliate=atf

[WOLFY]

37 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

I did a search on the ATF website. Spent the better part of 40 minutes reading through that site. All of it seems to address “Importers” not purchasers. I couldn’t find one thing about a gun owner removing the import marks. 
 

Here’s my search:

https://search.atf.gov/search?query=Can+a+gun+owner+remove+importer+marks%3F&op=Search&affiliate=atf

 

Ur the man, Pat Riot.  I owe you an hour worth of beers.

 

If I get “Cimarron Firearms LLC Fredericksburg Tx USA” engraved into the bottom of the grip frame, would that make it alright to remove their name and location from the bbl?

[Pat Riot]

6 minutes ago, WOLFY said:

 

Ur the man, Pat Riot.  I owe you an hour worth of beers.

 

If I get “Cimarron Firearms LLC Fredericksburg Tx USA” engraved into the bottom of the grip frame, would that make it alright to remove their name and location from the bbl?

I would think, as long as you follow the ATF guidelines for size and depth. But, I would call the ATF and ask them about cutting off your barrel past the import mark. I highly doubt they’d get too excited over an 1860 revolver design.

The one thing I have found with Feds and their regulations if they don’t have a reg for it they will give you an authoritative opinion. If they can’t cite a reg ask to speak to their supervisor or manager. If you want to pizz ‘em off ask for their “superior”. It irks em. 
 

For those of you that are about to have a cow over calling the ATF, save it. You ain’t the one calling so you’re safe from their electronic mind probes. 

[Texas Joker]

They won't do that over the phone. See you need to write a letter to the technical branch so they can issue a findings letter. Only thing worth trying to hang your hat on. 

[Alpo]

That's what I was thinking. Having an email - which can disappear into the ether - or a phone call which can be easily denied --- neither one is a real good choice.

 

Write them a letter. An actual real snail mail letter on a piece of paper. And hopefully you will get an answer back. On a piece of paper. With the ATF letterhead. And an actual signature.

 

That way if they decide later on down the pike that you have broken the law, you can show them the letter that says that you were not breaking the law.

[Rip Snorter]

Register / Return Receipt the letter.

[Blackwater 53393]

We remove the factory barrels from our match guns and replace them with custom octagonal barrels.

 

How would shortening a factory barrel be any different??

 

 

[watab kid]

id like to know thayt as well , im not argueing here - i dont know 

[WOLFY]

7 hours ago, Texas Joker said:

Chop it yourself and use a carriage bolt in a drill with lapping compound to crown it.

 

 

I like the way you think, TJ

[Warden Callaway]

My first thought was why not 38 Colt? Then 32 S&W in 6 shot cylinder.  

[Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984]

11 hours ago, Pat Riot said:

For those of you that are about to have a cow over calling the ATF, save it. You ain’t the one calling so you’re safe from their electronic mind probes. 

The mind probes are getting better all the time