Trailrider #896 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Seem that Texas and the federal gubmint is having a discussion about who has the right to control who can put up razor wire or take it down. The governor of Texas is arguing it is a matter of states rights. I am NOT taking sides...that will be the job of the courts. But, didn't we have some difficulty along similar lines (though on a totally different situation) some 163 years ago? Hope it doesn't wind up the same way that situation did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Apples and oranges from my perspective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Spur Jake SASS #7728 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 At least one Governor, whose state borders Mexico, is trying to stop the invasion of "Criminal Invaders", or as the Biden admin. and left wing media calls them "immigrants." All of them need to be rounded up and sent back across the border. Our tax paying, elected Fed. Govt. needs to do their job and close our borders to anyone trying to enter the USA illegally. You want to emigrate to the USA, you should have to do it legally. 7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Ain't it funny that its a States Right to determine Abortion and the guidelines for allowing it. BUT, when it comes to guarding our boarders, etc........ our Govt don't like 'States Rights' law. ..........Widder 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 SCOTUS ruled the Fed's have the right to order and enforce this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 54 minutes ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said: SCOTUS ruled the Fed's have the right to order and enforce this. Yes but they have also previously ruled the feds have the obligation to defend our borders. How’s that working out? Regards Gateway Kid 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trailrider #896 Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 Interesting that the governor of N? Dakota, who has been mentioned as a possible VP candidate says she is ready to ship more razor wire to Texas. More power to her! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozark Huckleberry Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 8 hours ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said: SCOTUS ruled the Fed's have the right to order and enforce this. As I understand the federal argument, the razor wire keeping illegals out interferes with border agents' ability to process the illegals into the U.S. If that doesn't highlight the absurdity of the administration's border polciies, nothing will. Edited January 27 by Ozark Huckleberry 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Well, the Feds had no issues put'n razor wire around the White House But, that must be different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Same with fences around the capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 People here in Texas are pretty riled up. Some are flying the old 1845 Gonzales 'Come and Take It' flag, with the cannon replaced by razor wire. This could be the nidus of something much bigger. I think the WH realized this, and Biden blinked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Sun Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 48 minutes ago, Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 said: People here in Texas are pretty riled up. Some are flying the old 1845 Gonzales 'Come and Take It' flag, with the cannon replaced by razor wire. This could be the nidus of something much bigger. I think the WH realized this, and Biden blinked. The oblivious only blink because of instinctive reaction. Their caretakers are another story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muleshoe Bill SASS #67022 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 All the SCOTUS ruled was that the Feds could cut the wire. They did not say that Texas could not put more up. My solution is (and I submit it is a "Green solution") is scatter broken glass along the river bank about 100 yards wide and one inch deep. This instead of paving the bank with toxic asphalt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D. Daily Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 20 hours ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Ain't it funny that its a States Right to determine Abortion and the guidelines for allowing it. BUT, when it comes to guarding our boarders, etc........ our Govt don't like 'States Rights' law. ..........Widder It is an enumerated power of the federal government to control immigration as well as protect states from invasion. However, Should the federal government not perform its' enumerated duty to defend a state from invasion the state can defend its' self. The question is does the situation on the TX boarder legally an invasion? Another question is can the federal government enter state property wo/permission from TX or court order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kloehr Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 7 hours ago, Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 said: Where were these flags manufactured and when were they imported to the US for distribution and sale? Just curious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Spur Jake SASS #7728 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Flags, signs, protests, calls to politicians, blah, blah, blah. Want to stop the "Criminal Invasion" on our borders? Put Snipers, US Military, Nat'l Guard, local, or State Lawn Enforcement, or paid mercenaries, if that's what it takes, on the border with orders shoot anyone crossing illegally, and I guarantee it will stop illegals from invading our country within 48hrs. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okie Sawbones, SASS #77381 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, John Kloehr said: Where were these flags manufactured and when were they imported to the US for distribution and sale? Just curious... No idea. Warrior 12 is selling the shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyesa Horg Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Leaving bodies hung up in the razor wire will send a message as well. Might add some piranha to the river as well. They need to eat too! Maybe we could borrow some critters from Australia! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Lone Spur Jake SASS #7728 said: Flags, signs, protests, calls to politicians, blah, blah, blah. Want to stop the "Criminal Invasion" on our borders? Put Snipers, US Military, Nat'l Guard, local, or State Lawn Enforcement, or paid mercenaries, if that's what it takes, on the border with orders shoot anyone crossing illegally, and I guarantee it will stop illegals from invading our country within 48hrs. You go first, and concentrate on the kids. Somebody else can take the women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Lone Spur Jake SASS #7728 said: .... or State Lawn Enforcement .... on the border. They'll mow 'em down, for sure! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rye Miles #13621 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Well there’s this……. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/god-s-army-protest-convoy-going-to-southern-border-for-rallies/ar-BB1hmIWw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Maverick Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 17 hours ago, Lone Spur Jake SASS #7728 said: Flags, signs, protests, calls to politicians, blah, blah, blah. Want to stop the "Criminal Invasion" on our borders? Put Snipers, US Military, Nat'l Guard, local, or State Lawn Enforcement, or paid mercenaries, if that's what it takes, on the border with orders shoot anyone crossing illegally, and I guarantee it will stop illegals from invading our country within 48hrs. Quit giving them anything but a one way ticket back across the border. Free housing, food, medical and education is bringing them over by the thousands. If they didn't get any benefits or handouts I am willing to bet a bunch of them would return back to Mexico. I also think if they added more alligators to the river it would stop of lot of the idiots coming across. TM Edited January 28 by Texas Maverick 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watab kid Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 1/26/2024 at 9:19 PM, Trailrider #896 said: Interesting that the governor of N? Dakota, who has been mentioned as a possible VP candidate says she is ready to ship more razor wire to Texas. More power to her! that would be S dakota , but no worries , On 1/27/2024 at 4:15 AM, Ozark Huckleberry said: As I understand the federal argument, the razor wire keeping illegals out interferes with border agents' ability to process the illegals into the U.S. If that doesn't highlight the absurdity of the administration's border polciies, nothing will. gotta agree with that thought , this is an invasion , the sheer numbers say so - but when that one incident happens [coming soon] who do we hold accountable ? i say trials for all federal admin that have anything to do with boarder starting from the top two and working our way down , BTW doesnt texas have a bit of special designation as a state ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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